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Title: No traction control as standard on 2001 CDX??
Post by: SOPRANO999 on 19 September 2014, 09:51:23
Hi all

Loving the new Miggy but was reminded the other day of the joy of rear wheel drive and wet roundabouts  :D !!!!
What was surprising is that the traction control light didn't come on nor did I feel it either! Tried this morning in the wet by rocketing away from standstill but no - no traction control! I can see the TC legend on the dash but never lights up!
Don't have a button for it either on the console
Was traction and optional extra on this motor? Thought it would have been standard! >:(   - pity, think ill need it!

Title: Re: No traction control as standard on 2001 CDX??
Post by: 05omegav6 on 19 September 2014, 10:38:11
2.2 never had it fitted/offered as it doesn't need it ::)

Are you quite young/inexperienced? It is traditional that the roads can be greasy when it rains for the first time after a week or so of hot dry weather ::)

Some tyres are shockingly crap in the wet, but even so, to get the back end of a Desmond out of shape really doest take some doing ;D
Title: Re: No traction control as standard on 2001 CDX??
Post by: SOPRANO999 on 19 September 2014, 11:38:26
Hi mate

young?? I wish!! 45 mate- last rwd I had was 520d M Sport with traction!been fwd for past 4 years :)
Feathering the throttle seems to help
cheers mate - I know its light at the rear  ;D
Title: Re: No traction control as standard on 2001 CDX??
Post by: steve6367 on 19 September 2014, 12:06:08
On my 2.2 it is virtually impossible to get the rear wheels to spin so maybe tyres not good? On the 2.5 which will happily spin the wheels I tend to switch the TC off anyway as its easier to control it manually rather than the rather sudden dip in go that the TC seems to create.
Title: Re: No traction control as standard on 2001 CDX??
Post by: zirk on 19 September 2014, 12:20:22
Sometimes wish my RWD Saph Cossie had a Traction Control switch, especially when the LSD kicks in when its wet.  :o

Coming up to roundabouts at speed you cant help thinking should I ring the Insurance Co now, or see how we get on after the roundabout.  ;D
Title: Re: No traction control as standard on 2001 CDX??
Post by: 05omegav6 on 19 September 2014, 12:23:44
Sometimes wish my RWD Saph Cossie had a Traction Control switch, especially when the LSD kicks in when its wet.  :o

Coming up to roundabouts at speed you cant help thinking should I ring the Insurance Co now, or see how we get on after the roundabout.  ;D
;D that's more or less how I killed my K reg Granada Cosworth ::)
Title: Re: No traction control as standard on 2001 CDX??
Post by: 4x4 on 19 September 2014, 18:42:35
Shame on you lot,i can mange to spin rear wheels on truck in dry no problem,and some sideways action in the wet ,and its the 2/3rd of an engine  ;D
Title: Re: No traction control as standard on 2001 CDX??
Post by: plym ian on 19 September 2014, 19:22:34
I can spin my wheels in the dry also :y

its easier going backwards and doing it admittidly ;D
Title: Re: No traction control as standard on 2001 CDX??
Post by: plym ian on 19 September 2014, 19:23:46
Sometimes wish my RWD Saph Cossie had a Traction Control switch, especially when the LSD kicks in when its wet.  :o

Coming up to roundabouts at speed you cant help thinking should I ring the Insurance Co now, or see how we get on after the roundabout.  ;D
;D that's more or less how I killed my K reg Granada Cosworth ::)
nice car they were :y
Title: Re: No traction control as standard on 2001 CDX??
Post by: Ady on 21 September 2014, 11:38:05
I have traction control on my 2.6 but to be honest it's crap and you find urself 3 foot across a round about when the power cuts and ur facing a truck coming the other way. I turn mine off every time I drive it and control it myself, it will spin up in any condition if I want it to and can be gentle in the rain and it won't step out, unless I want it to of course  ;D
Title: Re: No traction control as standard on 2001 CDX??
Post by: 05omegav6 on 21 September 2014, 18:52:42
No complaints with the system on the 3.2... Does exactly what it says on the tin, even in snow 8)
Title: Re: No traction control as standard on 2001 CDX??
Post by: Broomies Mate on 21 September 2014, 19:08:45
No complaints with the system on the 3.2... Does exactly what it says on the tin, even in snow 8)

I do find it a little over-active. I don't know if there is any difference between mine (2001) and later cars..... Thinking about it, is there a TCM software update?

Rear tyres are Dunlop SportMaxx RT with about 5mm tread - Although the wrong size (225/45/17)
Title: Re: No traction control as standard on 2001 CDX??
Post by: 05omegav6 on 21 September 2014, 21:03:01
There you go, fit wider tyres wot like it should have  :P
Title: Re: No traction control as standard on 2001 CDX??
Post by: TheBoy on 21 September 2014, 21:27:27
For post 1998 cars, stage one is using the rear brake on the spinning wheel, which you can feel, and its a good time to control the throttle at this point...  ...because stage 2 is to dramatically reduce engine power.

Whilst its an old system compared to modern standards, it works quite well...   ...**IF** your rear brakes are well serviced. Its utter shite on the Silver Bullet currently due to rear brakes needing some TLC
Title: Re: No traction control as standard on 2001 CDX??
Post by: TheBoy on 21 September 2014, 21:28:46
Only v6 had TC, the 4 pots (petrol and diesel) and the 6 cylinder diesel simply did not require it.
Title: Re: No traction control as standard on 2001 CDX??
Post by: steve6367 on 21 September 2014, 22:50:12
For post 1998 cars, stage one is using the rear brake on the spinning wheel, which you can feel, and its a good time to control the throttle at this point...  ...because stage 2 is to dramatically reduce engine power.

Whilst its an old system compared to modern standards, it works quite well...   ...**IF** your rear brakes are well serviced. Its utter shite on the Silver Bullet currently due to rear brakes needing some TLC

That is the only effect I seem to notice on mine and why I switch it off. Braking the spinning wheel would be more use. I shall have to give the rear brakes a good check over!
Title: Re: No traction control as standard on 2001 CDX??
Post by: TheBoy on 22 September 2014, 20:13:43
For post 1998 cars, stage one is using the rear brake on the spinning wheel, which you can feel, and its a good time to control the throttle at this point...  ...because stage 2 is to dramatically reduce engine power.

Whilst its an old system compared to modern standards, it works quite well...   ...**IF** your rear brakes are well serviced. Its utter shite on the Silver Bullet currently due to rear brakes needing some TLC

That is the only effect I seem to notice on mine and why I switch it off. Braking the spinning wheel would be more use. I shall have to give the rear brakes a good check over!
Pre 98 cars just go straight to stage 2, as the 3 channel ABS cannot independently control the rear brakes.
Title: Re: No traction control as standard on 2001 CDX??
Post by: petec on 25 September 2014, 17:19:14
I have traction control on my 2.6 but to be honest it's crap and you find urself 3 foot across a round about when the power cuts and ur facing a truck coming the other way. I turn mine off every time I drive it and control it myself, it will spin up in any condition if I want it to and can be gentle in the rain and it won't step out, unless I want it to of course  ;D

Must admit I turn TC off if its a bit wet and I'm in a hurry. Unless you are wearing special lead soled driving shoes it is more predictable to control with the throttle rather than lurching from oversteer to understeer as power is cut by TC even tho the 2.6 estate is naturally a bit more tail happy than my old saloon  ;D ;D
Title: Re: No traction control as standard on 2001 CDX??
Post by: steve6367 on 25 September 2014, 23:51:17
For post 1998 cars, stage one is using the rear brake on the spinning wheel, which you can feel, and its a good time to control the throttle at this point...  ...because stage 2 is to dramatically reduce engine power.

Whilst its an old system compared to modern standards, it works quite well...   ...**IF** your rear brakes are well serviced. Its utter shite on the Silver Bullet currently due to rear brakes needing some TLC

It's W reg so guess it should have 2 stages...

That is the only effect I seem to notice on mine and why I switch it off. Braking the spinning wheel would be more use. I shall have to give the rear brakes a good check over!
Pre 98 cars just go straight to stage 2, as the 3 channel ABS cannot independently control the rear brakes.