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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Jimbob on 21 June 2008, 21:26:18
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Went to swap the Mcguard locking bolts of the CDX onto the MV6, 3 came off perfectly, 1 (last fitted by a tyre fitter :( ) Shattered as soon as I tried undoing it.
It is the weird 'hexaganol' type key lock.
The outside has sheared off, leaving just the middle bit which is a rough imprint of the key.
Any ideas how to remove?
I've no socket that will fit (even with gentle persuasion) over it.
Cheers
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I took mine down to ATS and he used some thing like these
(http://www.machinemart.co.uk/images/library/product/medium/04/040214679.jpg?)
clicky (http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/5-piece-bolt-grip-set-expansion-set)
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Not cheap, but could come in handy.
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Not cheap, but could come in handy.
There are some of these that are intended purely for removing wheel nuts. the helix is not as pronounced as those I posted. Although I was sure Machine Mart sold them I could find them.
Edit Isn't Google good! ;)
eBay (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Locking-Wheel-Nut-Remover-2pc_W0QQitemZ250258895023QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item250258895023&_trkparms=72%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C65%3A12&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14) where else! :y
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Not sure there is enough metal left to get those onto >:(
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useful little friends for those that .. erm .. "collect" alloys (late at night !)
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useful little friends for those that .. erm .. "collect" alloys (late at night !)
I'm not sure how usefull they'd be without a windy gun.
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where there's a will ........ ;)
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useful little friends for those that .. erm .. "collect" alloys (late at night !)
I'm not sure how usefull they'd be without a windy gun.[/quote]
I have some form of 12 volt version for that, never used it but iirc it cant be used for normal jobs, it spins and when it get's up speed locks and will undoo difficult wheel nuts. :)
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The wheel nut shattered into pieces and there is not much metal left to get hold of! :(
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How about something like this?
http://www.screwfix.com/prods/20094/Hand-Tools/Pipe-Wrenches/Power-Grip-Pipe-Wrench-14-356mm
Designed for pipe but if the nut is useless then it may get enough grip to get it turning
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Went to swap the Mcguard locking bolts of the CDX onto the MV6, 3 came off perfectly, 1 (last fitted by a tyre fitter :( ) Shattered as soon as I tried undoing it.
It is the weird 'hexaganol' type key lock.
The outside has sheared off, leaving just the middle bit which is a rough imprint of the key.
Any ideas how to remove?
I've no socket that will fit (even with gentle persuasion) over it.
Cheers
If you have breakdown insurance AA/RAC ect its worth giving them a call...had a similar problem and they sorted mine. :y
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Are the nuts not recessed though, in which case this, and similar would not work.
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useful little friends for those that .. erm .. "collect" alloys (late at night !)
I'm not sure how usefull they'd be without a windy gun.[/quote]
I have some form of 12 volt version for that, never used it but iirc it cant be used for normal jobs, it spins and when it get's up speed locks and will undoo difficult wheel nuts. :)
I got one of those, plugs into the cigar lighter.
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Aye, its all in the wheel, so cant get anything like that on :(
Tempted to ring round scrappys / tyre bays / rac and see what they say
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Aye, its all in the wheel, so cant get anything like that on :(
Tempted to ring round scrappys / tyre bays / rac and see what they say
Bugger, sounds like drilling may be option.
Of course, after the wheel was last fitted, didn't you go round and retorque the wheelnuts?
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had a similar problem (i think) before, what i did was to drill into the remains of nut and then use a centre punch or similar drift and hammered it round to start it off ::)
might work :y
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Well a 3/4 socket hammers on nicely, just doesnt grip quite enough, so looks like a 3/4 remover may do the trick.
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I have a set of those removers and generally have found them crap.....that maybe because I explore all other techniques first before trying them though!
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any chance of bunging em in the car at the weekend?
Ill post em back to you
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any chance of bunging em in the car at the weekend?
Ill post em back to you
Yep, no problem :y
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Cheers
I'll try anything!
Need some more drill bits as well ;)
Tried araldyting the key to the lock overnight, didnt have enough grip to survive the bar though :(
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in situations like this i get the largest nut i can get on top of the wheel stud,crank up the mig welder and weld the centre of the nut to the remains of the wheel stud.allow to cool and if you can weld ::)the stud should wind out. 8-)
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in situations like this i get the largest nut i can get on top of the wheel stud,crank up the mig welder and weld the centre of the nut to the remains of the wheel stud.allow to cool and if you can weld ::)the stud should wind out. 8-)
A great plan with just 3 small drawbacks
1. I cant weld
2. I havent a welder
3. I cant weld
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A great plan with just 3 small drawbacks
1. I cant weld
2. I havent a welder
3. I cant weld
Could bring a welder to the lakes.... Time to see what their electrical hookups are made of? ;D
Kevin
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You could drill small holes into the nut from front on and then split with a chisel
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I used to have locking wheel nuts, but they weren't very good. They gradually distorted and it became more and more difficult to get them to engage properly. Eventually, after failing completely to remove a wheel, I get the got the garage to take them off.
Nobody's nicked my wheels yet. :)
Which is rather disappointing - I think they're really ugly. :(
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A great plan with just 3 small drawbacks
1. I cant weld
2. I havent a welder
3. I cant weld
Could bring a welder to the lakes.... Time to see what their electrical hookups are made of? ;D
Kevin
Cheers, not bringing that car up though. :y
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in situations like this i get the largest nut i can get on top of the wheel stud,crank up the mig welder and weld the centre of the nut to the remains of the wheel stud.allow to cool and if you can weld ::)the stud should wind out. 8-)
A great plan with just 3 small drawbacks
1. I cant weld
2. I havent a welder
3. I cant weld
LoL, Send Ljay on a course
CV will soon read
Mavelous Mother
Domestic Godess
Miggy Mechanic
and
Marvelous Mig Welder
Hope I got them right, sure it can be ammended if incorrect. PMSL
PS I left off the acrobatics bit ;D ;D ;D
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I spent about four hours drilling and chiselling the basteward wheel nut on the rear ns passenger wheel. It does work but make sure you have plenty of drill bits - they seem to have a tendancy to break off in the nut itself. Its more persevarence than anything else. If you have an SDS drill with hammer action and chisel, give that a go, worked for me. :exclamation