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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Lizzie_Zoom on 03 October 2014, 17:11:56
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Three days in now from the big tax disc change.
Driving around today I was checking every vehicle that I passed to note whether or not a disc was displayed. It was amazing to see that 99.9% of vehicles, including Post Office vans, were still displaying those things from the past. :o :o :o :o
I myself could not wait to rid my screen of that offending object. Does not the rest of the public feel the same way, or are so many still confused or completely ignorant of the new regulations? ??? ???
Is this typical of British Joe Public? ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;)
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Did you put it in your glove box Lizzie :y
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Mine is staying where it is until I have time to properly remove it with solvent to remove the residue, it will annoy me partially removed.
The omega still runs with an official OOF tax disk holder, that may have to stay for posterity.
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Three days in now from the big tax disc change.
Driving around today I was checking every vehicle that I passed to note whether or not a disc was displayed. It was amazing to see that 99.9% of vehicles, including Post Office vans, were still displaying those things from the past. :o :o :o :o
I myself could not wait to rid my screen of that offending object. Does not the rest of the public feel the same way, or are so many still confused or completely ignorant of the new
Is this typical of British Joe Public? ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;)
SNAP, Then again it was you who confirmed we could remove them on 1 October rather than wait until they ran out when I asked the question ages ago. :y :y :y
When I removed mine on Tuesday there were the seven discs since I've had the car. :y
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Did you put it in your glove box Lizzie :y
No, but I have kept it in my keep sake box for historical reasons! :D :D ;)
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I cant be bothered to remove it,it runs out end of nov anyway,so i might just leave it there anyway lol
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Three days in now from the big tax disc change.
Driving around today I was checking every vehicle that I passed to note whether or not a disc was displayed. It was amazing to see that 99.9% of vehicles, including Post Office vans, were still displaying those things from the past. :o :o :o :o
I myself could not wait to rid my screen of that offending object. Does not the rest of the public feel the same way, or are so many still confused or completely ignorant of the new
Is this typical of British Joe Public? ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;)
SNAP, Then again it was you who confirmed we could remove them on 1 October rather than wait until they ran out when I asked the question ages ago. :y :y :y
When I removed mine on Tuesday there were the seven discs since I've had the car. :y
That is true Cleggy!! :y :y :y Perhaps the Gov should have left me to transmit the new rules to the whole country. I'd have done a better job of it! ;D ;D ;)
I wished I had kept my original tax disc with an expiry date of Nov 1971, but hindsight is a great thing! ::) ::) ::) ;)
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Three days in now from the big tax disc change.
Driving around today I was checking every vehicle that I passed to note whether or not a disc was displayed. It was amazing to see that 99.9% of vehicles, including Post Office vans, were still displaying those things from the past. :o :o :o :o
I myself could not wait to rid my screen of that offending object. Does not the rest of the public feel the same way, or are so many still confused or completely ignorant of the new regulations? ??? ???
Is this typical of British Joe Public? ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;)
I'm surprised that a lady with such an interest in history is so keen to usher in the end of an era. ::) ::) ;)
Think of all those lovely old tax discs so proudly displayed in cars that were made in the thirties, forties and fifties.
I always look for continuity errors when watching period drama. How sad is that?..... ;D ;D ;D :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
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Mine is staying where it is until I have time to properly remove it with solvent to remove the residue, it will annoy me partially removed.
The omega still runs with an official OOF tax disk holder, that may have to stay for posterity.
;D ;D ;D I had my Meths lined up already for that job; out came the disc then the meths got the stickies off¬! ;D ;D ;)
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Three days in now from the big tax disc change.
Driving around today I was checking every vehicle that I passed to note whether or not a disc was displayed. It was amazing to see that 99.9% of vehicles, including Post Office vans, were still displaying those things from the past. :o :o :o :o
I myself could not wait to rid my screen of that offending object. Does not the rest of the public feel the same way, or are so many still confused or completely ignorant of the new regulations? ??? ???
Is this typical of British Joe Public? ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;)
I'm surprised that a lady with such an interest in history is so keen to usher in the end of an era. ::) ::) ;)
Think of all those lovely old tax discs so proudly displayed in cars that were made in the thirties, forties and fifties.
I always look for continuity errors when watching period drama. How sad is that?..... ;D ;D ;D :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Yes, and thousands of them still exist in collections! Like that boy who has amassed 12,000 of them ;D ;D ;D ;)
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I cant be bothered to remove it,it runs out end of nov anyway,so i might just leave it there anyway lol
Yep, same here. :y It's never really bothered me that much. The rebel in me says to leave it there out of date. ::) :)
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Mine was never displayed correctly. It's upside down, in the upper tinted area of the screen, with half the details accidentally folded over , so it's as difficult as possible to read.
Now we're in October I feel a strange need to put it the right way up, unfold it, and place it, nice and visible, in the lower left corner of the screen. :)
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Mine was never displayed correctly. It's upside down, in the upper tinted area of the screen, with half the details accidentally folded over , so it's as difficult as possible to read.
Now we're in October I feel a strange need to put it the right way up, unfold it, and place it, nice and visible, in the lower left corner of the screen. :)
;D ;D
Sounds good to me. :y
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Mine was never displayed correctly. It's upside down, in the upper tinted area of the screen, with half the details accidentally folded over , so it's as difficult as possible to read.
Now we're in October I feel a strange need to put it the right way up, unfold it, and place it, nice and visible, in the lower left corner of the screen. :)
You rebel!! :o :o :o ;D ;D ;)
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Three days in now from the big tax disc change.
Driving around today I was checking every vehicle that I passed to note whether or not a disc was displayed. It was amazing to see that 99.9% of vehicles, including Post Office vans, were still displaying those things from the past. :o :o :o :o
I myself could not wait to rid my screen of that offending object. Does not the rest of the public feel the same way, or are so many still confused or completely ignorant of the new regulations? ??? ???
Is this typical of British Joe Public? ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;)
I'm surprised that a lady with such an interest in history is so keen to usher in the end of an era. ::) ::) ;)
Think of all those lovely old tax discs so proudly displayed in cars that were made in the thirties, forties and fifties.
I always look for continuity errors when watching period drama. How sad is that?..... ;D ;D ;D :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Yes, and thousands of them still exist in collections! Like that boy who has amassed 12,000 of them ;D ;D ;D ;)
Even more sad than my enormous collection of car registration numbers I amassed in the 1960's..... ;D ;D ;D
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Tax Disc ??, now what, something else thats been brought out to relieve us innocent motorist of yet more money. ::)
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Tax Disc ??, now what, something else thats been brought out to relieve us innocent motorist of yet more money. ::)
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
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I cant be bothered to remove it,it runs out end of nov anyway,so i might just leave it there anyway lol
Mine ran out on Wednesday, I'm not in any hurry to do anything with it..........
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Still hiding my expiry date with the wiper blade ::)
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Lizzie's on the meths :o :o :o ;D ;D ;D
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Lizzie's on the meths :o :o :o ;D ;D ;D
Yum,yum!! It really gets me fired up! 8) 8) ;D ;D ;D ;)
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Tax Disc ??, now what, something else thats been brought out to relieve us innocent motorist of yet more money. ::)
Next thing you know David Lloyd George will be moving into Chequers and I suppose we'll be paying for that, too!
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Mine is staying where it is until I have time to properly remove it with solvent to remove the residue, it will annoy me partially removed.
The omega still runs with an official OOF tax disk holder, that may have to stay for posterity.
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Agreed Jimbob :y
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From October 1st, you'll be able to rip your tax disc off your windscreen - only it's probably best not to actually rip it, it'll be worth holding onto in case there's any confusion or complications when the new system comes in.
Not that confident then. ::)
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A colleagueuey of mine was kicking off yesterday because he has recently received a fine for using an uninsured vehicle on the road ::)
The uninsured vehicle in question was taxed and MoTd prior to the expiry of the insurance. Subsequently, his renewal came through at a higher rate than the previous year. In a fit of pique, and because he's a bit daft, he parked the car on his drive.
Trouble is, he didn't declare it Sorned and reclaim the tax, so the Swansea Mafia decided that, by virtue of being taxed and MoTd, he must be using the car on the road, so having decided that he's committing an offence, they have sent him a bill fine.
He won't see why he should have sorned it having only just taxed it, and that it should be upto them to prove that he hasn't used the car on the road, not the other way around ::)
I did try to point out that keeping a licenced vehicle uninsured was an offence, and one clearly stated on various bits of paper, but he is definitely in the right ;D
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A colleagueuey of mine was kicking off yesterday because he has recently received a fine for using an uninsured vehicle on the road ::)
The uninsured vehicle in question was taxed and MoTd prior to the expiry of the insurance. Subsequently, his renewal came through at a higher rate than the previous year. In a fit of pique, and because he's a bit daft, he parked the car on his drive.
Trouble is, he didn't declare it Sorned and reclaim the tax, so the Swansea Mafia decided that, by virtue of being taxed and MoTd, he must be using the car on the road, so having decided that he's committing an offence, they have sent him a bill fine.
He won't see why he should have sorned it having only just taxed it, and that it should be upto them to prove that he hasn't used the car on the road, not the other way around ::)
I did try to point out that keeping a licenced vehicle uninsured was an offence, and one clearly stated on various bits of paper, but he is definitely in the right ;D
The traffic police have to deal with those idiots every day. ::) ::) ::)
........and we legal motorists may meet them head on anyday! >:( >:(
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A colleagueuey of mine was kicking off yesterday because he has recently received a fine for using an uninsured vehicle on the road ::)
The uninsured vehicle in question was taxed and MoTd prior to the expiry of the insurance. Subsequently, his renewal came through at a higher rate than the previous year. In a fit of pique, and because he's a bit daft, he parked the car on his drive.
Trouble is, he didn't declare it Sorned and reclaim the tax, so the Swansea Mafia decided that, by virtue of being taxed and MoTd, he must be using the car on the road, so having decided that he's committing an offence, they have sent him a bill fine.
He won't see why he should have sorned it having only just taxed it, and that it should be upto them to prove that he hasn't used the car on the road, not the other way around ::)
I did try to point out that keeping a licenced vehicle uninsured was an offence, and one clearly stated on various bits of paper, but he is definitely in the right ;D
The traffic police have to deal with those idiots every day. ::) ::) ::)
........and we legal motorists may meet them head on anyday! >:( >:(
If I read the original post correctly the only way you will meet him 'head on' is if you drive through his garage first :-\
He's paid road tax, he isn't using it on the road, why should he be penalised? (If he is lying and is using it on the road then he deserves to get caught & have the car crushed however...)
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A colleagueuey of mine was kicking off yesterday because he has recently received a fine for using an uninsured vehicle on the road ::)
The uninsured vehicle in question was taxed and MoTd prior to the expiry of the insurance. Subsequently, his renewal came through at a higher rate than the previous year. In a fit of pique, and because he's a bit daft, he parked the car on his drive.
Trouble is, he didn't declare it Sorned and reclaim the tax, so the Swansea Mafia decided that, by virtue of being taxed and MoTd, he must be using the car on the road, so having decided that he's committing an offence, they have sent him a bill fine.
He won't see why he should have sorned it having only just taxed it, and that it should be upto them to prove that he hasn't used the car on the road, not the other way around ::)
I did try to point out that keeping a licenced vehicle uninsured was an offence, and one clearly stated on various bits of paper, but he is definitely in the right ;D
The traffic police have to deal with those idiots every day. ::) ::) ::)
........and we legal motorists may meet them head on anyday! >:( >:(
If I read the original post correctly the only way you will meet him 'head on' is if you drive through his garage first :-\
He's paid road tax, he isn't using it on the road, why should he be penalised? (If he is lying and is using it on the road then he deserves to get caught & have the car crushed however...)
He isn't using the car, and thinks that 'sky high' insurance quotes are proof/defence enough as to why it isn't insured. He also argues that had the car been on the road it would have been flagged everytime it passed a police car ::)
Apparently the premium increase was less than £150, but doesn't alter the fact that he should have sorned it when that policy ran out :-\
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A colleagueuey of mine was kicking off yesterday because he has recently received a fine for using an uninsured vehicle on the road ::)
The uninsured vehicle in question was taxed and MoTd prior to the expiry of the insurance. Subsequently, his renewal came through at a higher rate than the previous year. In a fit of pique, and because he's a bit daft, he parked the car on his drive.
Trouble is, he didn't declare it Sorned and reclaim the tax, so the Swansea Mafia decided that, by virtue of being taxed and MoTd, he must be using the car on the road, so having decided that he's committing an offence, they have sent him a bill fine.
He won't see why he should have sorned it having only just taxed it, and that it should be upto them to prove that he hasn't used the car on the road, not the other way around ::)
I did try to point out that keeping a licenced vehicle uninsured was an offence, and one clearly stated on various bits of paper, but he is definitely in the right ;D
The traffic police have to deal with those idiots every day. ::) ::) ::)
........and we legal motorists may meet them head on anyday! >:( >:(
If I read the original post correctly the only way you will meet him 'head on' is if you drive through his garage first :-\
He's paid road tax, he isn't using it on the road, why should he be penalised? (If he is lying and is using it on the road then he deserves to get caught & have the car crushed however...)
No Andy, I meant in general individuals who make excuses as to why their car is not insured, or they think it is, when the police stop them. These people are the menace.
As for the guy specificly mentioned in this thread he should know the rules and complete the required documents correctly. In addition the fact that his car is "on the drive" does not stop him from using it in a moment of madness when uninsured with all the risks that implies for everyone. A car near me was apparently "laid up" in a car park, with no tax, MOT or insurance. It didn't stop the individual occasionally using the said vehicle though, until I passed his details on and his vehicle was lifted by the DVLA.
Sorry, but there are too many people who think they can break the law and not insure their vehicle, giving lame excuses to the police when stopped. If you genuinely want to take your vehicle off the road, regardless of the tax and MOT situation, then you SORN it. Easy, simples! ;) ;)
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He has another fully legal vehicle :y
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A colleagueuey of mine was kicking off yesterday because he has recently received a fine for using an uninsured vehicle on the road ::)
The uninsured vehicle in question was taxed and MoTd prior to the expiry of the insurance. Subsequently, his renewal came through at a higher rate than the previous year. In a fit of pique, and because he's a bit daft, he parked the car on his drive.
Trouble is, he didn't declare it Sorned and reclaim the tax, so the Swansea Mafia decided that, by virtue of being taxed and MoTd, he must be using the car on the road, so having decided that he's committing an offence, they have sent him a bill fine.
He won't see why he should have sorned it having only just taxed it, and that it should be upto them to prove that he hasn't used the car on the road, not the other way around ::)
I did try to point out that keeping a licenced vehicle uninsured was an offence, and one clearly stated on various bits of paper, but he is definitely in the right ;D
The traffic police have to deal with those idiots every day. ::) ::) ::)
........and we legal motorists may meet them head on anyday! >:( >:(
If I read the original post correctly the only way you will meet him 'head on' is if you drive through his garage first :-\
He's paid road tax, he isn't using it on the road, why should he be penalised? (If he is lying and is using it on the road then he deserves to get caught & have the car crushed however...)
No Andy, I meant in general individuals who make excuses as to why their car is not insured, or they think it is, when the police stop them. These people are the menace.
As for the guy specificly mentioned in this thread he should know the rules and complete the required documents correctly. In addition the fact that his car is "on the drive" does not stop him from using it in a moment of madness when uninsured with all the risks that implies for everyone. A car near me was apparently "laid up" in a car park, with no tax, MOT or insurance. It didn't stop the individual occasionally using the said vehicle though, until I passed his details on and his vehicle was lifted by the DVLA.
Sorry, but there are too many people who think they can break the law and not insure their vehicle, giving lame excuses to the police when stopped. If you genuinely want to take your vehicle off the road, regardless of the tax and MOT situation, then you SORN it. Easy, simples! ;) ;)
It isn't simple. If you cancel your road tax you only get back the amount for the whole months remaining, when you pay road tax you have to pay for the whole month in which you intend to use the car. Every time the tax on a car is stopped & started DVLA takes an extra cut. I don't know how long this car was uninsured but if it was less than a month then he would have paid twice for the same month.
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A colleagueuey of mine was kicking off yesterday because he has recently received a fine for using an uninsured vehicle on the road ::)
The uninsured vehicle in question was taxed and MoTd prior to the expiry of the insurance. Subsequently, his renewal came through at a higher rate than the previous year. In a fit of pique, and because he's a bit daft, he parked the car on his drive.
Trouble is, he didn't declare it Sorned and reclaim the tax, so the Swansea Mafia decided that, by virtue of being taxed and MoTd, he must be using the car on the road, so having decided that he's committing an offence, they have sent him a bill fine.
He won't see why he should have sorned it having only just taxed it, and that it should be upto them to prove that he hasn't used the car on the road, not the other way around ::)
I did try to point out that keeping a licenced vehicle uninsured was an offence, and one clearly stated on various bits of paper, but he is definitely in the right ;D
The traffic police have to deal with those idiots every day. ::) ::) ::)
........and we legal motorists may meet them head on anyday! >:( >:(
If I read the original post correctly the only way you will meet him 'head on' is if you drive through his garage first :-\
He's paid road tax, he isn't using it on the road, why should he be penalised? (If he is lying and is using it on the road then he deserves to get caught & have the car crushed however...)
No Andy, I meant in general individuals who make excuses as to why their car is not insured, or they think it is, when the police stop them. These people are the menace.
As for the guy specificly mentioned in this thread he should know the rules and complete the required documents correctly. In addition the fact that his car is "on the drive" does not stop him from using it in a moment of madness when uninsured with all the risks that implies for everyone. A car near me was apparently "laid up" in a car park, with no tax, MOT or insurance. It didn't stop the individual occasionally using the said vehicle though, until I passed his details on and his vehicle was lifted by the DVLA.
Sorry, but there are too many people who think they can break the law and not insure their vehicle, giving lame excuses to the police when stopped. If you genuinely want to take your vehicle off the road, regardless of the tax and MOT situation, then you SORN it. Easy, simples! ;) ;)
It isn't simple. If you cancel your road tax you only get back the amount for the whole months remaining, when you pay road tax you have to pay for the whole month in which you intend to use the car. Every time the tax on a car is stopped & started DVLA takes an extra cut. I don't know how long this car was uninsured but if it was less than a month then he would have paid twice for the same month.
That has not changed.You never got part months refunded.
If he has paid twice who's fault is that? ::) ::) ::)
He has another, fully legal, car so he is not poor and owns two cars. If he can do that why not insure both under a multi-car policy, or sell one car if the cost is an issue.
No, as was first written, he through a tantrum over the cost after taxing and MOT'ing one of his cars and then wondered why he was fined when he had breached the regulations by not SORN'ing his vehicle. That is the simple fact, no one else's fault, not the DVLA, but his! ;)
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It isn't simple. If you cancel your road tax you only get back the amount for the whole months remaining, when you pay road tax you have to pay for the whole month in which you intend to use the car. Every time the tax on a car is stopped & started DVLA takes an extra cut. I don't know how long this car was uninsured but if it was less than a month then he would have paid twice for the same month.
I agree. And as above, you're deemed to be guilty & have to prove your innocence - it should be the other way around and is in all other parts of the law.
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I paid dearly for my disc and it's stopping in the screen :y :y
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Tother car is a taxi, so good luck getting both on the same policy :y
I did try to explain your last sentence to him, but he's not having it ;D
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Tother car is a taxi, so good luck getting both on the same policy :y
I did try to explain your last sentence to him, but he's not having it ;D
Ah right, that does alter that fact then! ::) ::) ;D ;D
If he is a taxi driver though he must be loaded...................now we shall all wait for the taxi drivers on here to bite my head off!! ;D ;D ;D ;) ;)