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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: omega3000 on 21 October 2014, 14:12:31
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Mashed the pedal on my own private test track today with S button pressed and rolling start 50 .... :o :o It works ::)
Nothing will outpace this old tub .. not even a trace of oil smell thrash burn from any of the 6 pots .. Oil tight .. cooler working , comfy and pin quiet inside apart from the boom from boxes.. cant ask for anything more from a 16 year old car :y
Hows your old tub running ? ???
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I have been a bit surprised that
tossers drivers in smallish cars see the old tub as one to take on at traffic lights. I do not even have to use S. A BMW convertible had a go a couple of days ago and was suitably embarassed. I think they look at the plate and assume an old car is not up to it
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The Omega (despite all it's faults) is pretty nippy in 3.2 form, 8.5s to 60 is no slouch - albeit not exactly awe inspiring performance either.
Sadly it's replacement (for me) is a bit slower - 10.2 to 60 and I have to stir an Edwardian signal box lever to get there ;D
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The Omega (despite all it's faults) is pretty nippy in 3.2 form, 8.5s to 60 is no slouch - albeit not exactly awe inspiring performance either.
Sadly it's replacement (for me) is a bit slower - 10.2 to 60 and I have to stir an Edwardian signal box lever to get there ;D
That a miggy, Aaron?
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Nope, the Ranger :y and I lied, 10.3s to 60.
Of course it needs almost as much power (200hp) and a lot more torque (346lb/ft) to do it ;D
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Nope, the Ranger :y and I lied, 10.3s to 60.
Of course it needs almost as much power (200hp) and a lot more torque (346lb/ft) to do it ;D
Aha! got ya lol ;D
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The Omega (despite all it's faults) is pretty nippy in 3.2 form, 8.5s to 60 is no slouch - albeit not exactly awe inspiring performance either.
Sadly it's replacement (for me) is a bit slower - 10.2 to 60 and I have to stir an Edwardian signal box lever to get there ;D
Crikey that's slow :o warmed up, the plod 3.2 with a proper gearbox is sub 7 seconds... which is nice 8)
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8.5 is the book figure - I can easily see getting down to 7.something, but under 7 seconds is an achievement.. then again, shorter diff on the Plod?
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8.5 is the book figure - I can easily see getting down to 7.something, but under 7 seconds is an achievement.. then again, shorter diff on the Plod?
Diff is 3.7:1... was timed using the cd player ::) :-X so might be 6.9999 seconds ;D but it's certainly quick enough to worry a cautious motorbicyclist, although being white helps with that ;D
Should add, warmed up means upto temp rather than tuned... the gearbox is an absolute dog when it's cold... ie I have to select reverse whilst rolling down the drive ::) more so since removing all the play from the lever support.
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Once it has overcome it's initial inertia the Omega can surprise a few cars.
From 50 MPH upwards it's quite sprightly for an old dowager. :y
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8.5 is the book figure - I can easily see getting down to 7.something, but under 7 seconds is an achievement.. then again, shorter diff on the Plod?
One up and low on petrol my 2.6 will match that ...........on a good day. :y
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Should add, warmed up means upto temp rather than tuned... the gearbox is an absolute dog when it's cold... ie I have to select reverse whilst rolling down the drive ::) more so since removing all the play from the lever support.
;D ;D Sounds like my old Allegro.. ;)
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Should add, warmed up means upto temp rather than tuned... the gearbox is an absolute dog when it's cold... ie I have to select reverse whilst rolling down the drive ::) more so since removing all the play from the lever support.
;D ;D Sounds like my old Allegro.. ;)
Britain at it's best. :y
Concorde.......Spitfire ....Hurricane......Mallard....Flying Scotsman.....Austin All-aggro.
I envy you, Aaron. :)
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8.5 is the book figure - I can easily see getting down to 7.something, but under 7 seconds is an achievement.. then again, shorter diff on the Plod?
One up and low on petrol my 2.6 will match that ...........on a good day. :y
Do you get varying 0-60 times opti? mine ranges from 10.6 to 8.7!!! lol (2.5 v6). is that normal?
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I know Autocar etc make their own 0-60 figures. Sometimes turn out slower than the brochure claims, sometimes (well, often the case with Luton, who always undersold their cars, almost as a matter of course) turned out to be quicker.
Seem to recall motoring press laughing at the Vx-claimed Carlton GSi 0-60 time of 8 seconds, or thereabouts. As the Astra GTE, several hundred kgs lighter would do it in almost that same time. Only for the fat old tubby Carlton to manage it in 6.6secs! (this is from memory, may be talking out my exhaust - it was 20+ years ago, and I was under 10, so y'know :D)
So would be a joy to hear what the true 0-60 time of the Omegas is. Aware that diffs make a fair old difference. Anyone got an old Autocar with the real-world 0-60 times for a V6??
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Well DBG....
I've done a few of late lol
The worst i got was 11.3 secs. However, it was a wet day and i got LOADS of wheel spin with the TC light coming on for a while.
I did a run in the dry the other day. almost imperceptable decline. 8.7 secs.
I did another dry run on an almost imperceptable incline this time.... 10.6 secs.
my reasoning for this is that the time i hit the pedal and hit the stop watch are different each time. which is why ive always been eager to do a 100% flat, dry run with a special GPS 0-60 but ive no idea how people do them??????
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Can't disagree with any of this...
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/vauxhall/14670/vauxhall-omega
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Well DBG....
I've done a few of late lol
The worst i got was 11.3 secs. However, it was a wet day and i got LOADS of wheel spin with the TC light coming on for a while.
I did a run in the dry the other day. almost imperceptable decline. 8.7 secs.
I did another dry run on an almost imperceptable incline this time.... 10.6 secs.
my reasoning for this is that the time i hit the pedal and hit the stop watch are different each time. which is why ive always been eager to do a 100% flat, dry run with a special GPS 0-60 but ive no idea how people do them??????
I think that's why they tend to do two runs, in opposite directions, even slight a tailwind can speed up a car my noticeable seconds. Certainly that's the logic behind the old two runs idea in land speed records comes from.
Not sure how much a tailwind would affect Thrust SSC, like :y
I suppose, technically, it would hit the 'sound barrier' (different at various altitudes/pressure, of course) a bit later, actually? Hmm... slightly off-topic. :D
Lit up the back tyres three times in the last fortnight thanks to greasy roads, and probably horrific camber set-up. I'm only keeping the car for another few weeks, hopefully, so really trying to spend as little time/money on it, and get as much money poured onto the V6s resurrection.
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Can't disagree with any of this...
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/vauxhall/14670/vauxhall-omega
8TH IN COMFORT???
7TH IN RIDE QUALITY??!? When you consider this was an 'outdated' and long-since axed car, and a 13 year old design at the time of that article, it think that's frankly tremendous. Well done Russelsheim :y
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I have been a bit surprised that tossers drivers in smallish cars see the old tub as one to take on at traffic lights. I do not even have to use S. A BMW convertible had a go a couple of days ago and was suitably embarassed. I think they look at the plate and assume an old car is not up to it
Exactly :y
I was in a notorious 50mph dual cartridge zone the other day .. speed camera signs all over the place .. 6 cars flew past me at least 65 >:( Soon as i exit the speed limit zone i fly past them all , no problemo ;D Pity they dont get caught speeding in the zone >:(
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So.
0-60 times done by GPS. I presume thats the only way to get an accurate figure.
How do said things work? and what do i need?
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8.5 is the book figure - I can easily see getting down to 7.something, but under 7 seconds is an achievement.. then again, shorter diff on the Plod?
One up and low on petrol my 2.6 will match that ...........on a good day. :y
Do you get varying 0-60 times opti? mine ranges from 10.6 to 8.7!!! lol (2.5 v6). is that normal?
Yep.....A full tank of petrol will make a significant difference, as will an extra passenger or two.
Two up and half a tank of petrol will add a second or more to the time. Think 10 seconds. :y
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Hows your old tub running ? ???
Not bad at all, hence why I think it best not to get me a dash cam. ;)
But then it is Black so I expect no different from it. :y
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Hows your old tub running ? ???
Not bad at all, hence why I think it best not to get me a dash cam. ;)
But then it is Black so I expect no different from it. :y
Already ordered one , could have done with it today ::)
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I know Autocar etc make their own 0-60 figures. Sometimes turn out slower than the brochure claims, sometimes (well, often the case with Luton, who always undersold their cars, almost as a matter of course) turned out to be quicker.
Seem to recall motoring press laughing at the Vx-claimed Carlton GSi 0-60 time of 8 seconds, or thereabouts. As the Astra GTE, several hundred kgs lighter would do it in almost that same time. Only for the fat old tubby Carlton to manage it in 6.6secs! (this is from memory, may be talking out my exhaust - it was 20+ years ago, and I was under 10, so y'know :D)
So would be a joy to hear what the true 0-60 time of the Omegas is. Aware that diffs make a fair old difference. Anyone got an old Autocar with the real-world 0-60 times for a V6??
60 MPH..... 8.53........136.90 metres *
100 MPH...23.23........680.99 metres *
* denotes private road.
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the last time I measured was 7.9 but must admit 2 nd gear ratio is high which I will solve later.. (diff 3.9)
I raced it with clit, 1st gear was head to head before turbo kicks in and when I shift to 2nd clit runs away but thats very normal :-\
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one day I'm planning to test without spare wheel, minimum fuel and will see what it makes
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one day I'm planning to test without spare wheel, minimum fuel and will see what it makes
Please take you spare wheel for emergency :(
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one day I'm planning to test without spare wheel, minimum fuel and will see what it makes
Please take you spare wheel for emergency :(
Less and less manufacturers are fitting a spare wheel as standard. In some cases they further insult us by offering it as an optional extra. How do you fix a major blowout with a can of tyre foam?..... :-\ :-\ :-\
Ah yes.....a spare wheel should solve that problem.
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Can someone recommend a zero to sixty app? I'm not techie but wife's got iPhone, iPad etc
Was thinking this looks perfect . . .
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ct.speedometer&hl=en
Especially as I can concentrate on mashing the pedal and it will monitor when I've accelerated
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get passenger to video it----i did----rover 0-60= 7.2 without gas and 2 passengers one of which was rix and hes 28 stone
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That's not a bad idea at all Symes. That way I can get the exact time from the needle moving to when it hits sixty. . . Probably within hundredths of a second!
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Hows your old tub running ? ???
Still chewing them up and spitting them out the rear ;D :y
get passenger to video it----i did----rover 0-60= 7.2 without gas and 2 passengers one of which was rix and hes 28 stone
Did try something like this last year Link (http://youtu.be/5sx7Bm4hZRA) around 7.5/8.5sec average after 3 runs.
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problem is getting someone mad enough to want to get in rat when running open headers/650cfm carb and gas--with crap brakes :D :D
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I wouldnt say no ;D
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problem is getting someone mad enough to want to get in rat when running open headers/650cfm carb and gas--with crap brakes :D :D
;D
Forgive my ignorance. What are open headers :-\
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Can someone recommend a zero to sixty app? I'm not techie but wife's got iPhone, iPad etc
Was thinking this looks perfect . . .
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ct.speedometer&hl=en
Especially as I can concentrate on mashing the pedal and it will monitor when I've accelerated
Most are about as accurate as a sundial, Mr bear.
Try Racelogic Performance box. :y
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problem is getting someone mad enough to want to get in rat when running open headers/650cfm carb and gas--with crap brakes :D :D
;D
Forgive my ignorance. What are open headers :-\
ooh sorry manifolds mate--drop pipes off--exhaust kick straight down then at about a million decibels ;D ;D allows fuel to basically get in/out asap
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problem is getting someone mad enough to want to get in rat when running open headers/650cfm carb and gas--with crap brakes :D :D
Sounds ideal to me.. can I borrow the keys? ;)
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problem is getting someone mad enough to want to get in rat when running open headers/650cfm carb and gas--with crap brakes :D :D
;D
Forgive my ignorance. What are open headers :-\
ooh sorry manifolds mate--drop pipes off--exhaust kick straight down then at about a million decibels ;D ;D allows fuel to basically get in/out asap
Lol so essentially you have a downpipe off the manifold. . . . . And that's it? :o ;D
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problem is getting someone mad enough to want to get in rat when running open headers/650cfm carb and gas--with crap brakes :D :D
;D
Forgive my ignorance. What are open headers :-\
ooh sorry manifolds mate--drop pipes off--exhaust kick straight down then at about a million decibels ;D ;D allows fuel to basically get in/out asap
Lol so essentially you have a downpipe off the manifold. . . . . And that's it? :o ;D
no when racing--put tubular manifolds on
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one day I'm planning to test without spare wheel, minimum fuel and will see what it makes
Please take you spare wheel for emergency :(
thanks Emd but mine is useless anyway as there are extra spacers I need to buy another 5x120 :-\
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most speedos are non calibrated , show more speed etc.. I use a tomtom gps to measure but still not sure its showing on time or not :-\