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Title: I'm a bit nervous . . . . VX Main Dealer
Post by: Rog on 30 October 2014, 08:48:58

Just moved and not familair with local garages etc. Off to France for a few days next week and the MV6 is ok, but there is an unpleasant vibration at speed. New tyres and balanced improved things but not improved enough. Old nearside tyre was very worn on the inner edge.

Bit the bullet and took it to the local Vx dealer conveniently just a few minutes walk away.

I've had some frighteningly expensive experiences with main dealers.  . . . . I'm just hoping that this isn't another one

Oh, I know that the experts will tell me what is wrong and how easy it is to do myself. No it's not. I don't do anything myself, no time, no skills, no tools, and no inclination.
Title: Re: I'm a bit nervous . . . . VX Main Dealer
Post by: 05omegav6 on 30 October 2014, 10:25:56
Track rod end or ball joint :-\
Title: Re: I'm a bit nervous . . . . VX Main Dealer
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 30 October 2014, 10:56:14

Just moved and not familair with local garages etc. Off to France for a few days next week and the MV6 is ok, but there is an unpleasant vibration at speed. New tyres and balanced improved things but not improved enough. Old nearside tyre was very worn on the inner edge.

Bit the bullet and took it to the local Vx dealer conveniently just a few minutes walk away.

I've had some frighteningly expensive experiences with main dealers.  . . . . I'm just hoping that this isn't another one

Oh, I know that the experts will tell me what is wrong and how easy it is to do myself. No it's not. I don't do anything myself, no time, no skills, no tools, and no inclination.

You are not alone.

Much of the work will be completed/botched by a  17 year old neanderthal knuckledragger......for which they will charge £65 P/H plus VAT. ;)

It'll be fine. :)

Title: Re: I'm a bit nervous . . . . VX Main Dealer
Post by: amba on 30 October 2014, 10:57:48
More "Open Wallet Surgery" by the sound of it. :o

Hope you pull through  :y
Title: Re: I'm a bit nervous . . . . VX Main Dealer
Post by: Rog on 30 October 2014, 11:00:14

Just moved and not familair with local garages etc. Off to France for a few days next week and the MV6 is ok, but there is an unpleasant vibration at speed. New tyres and balanced improved things but not improved enough. Old nearside tyre was very worn on the inner edge.

Bit the bullet and took it to the local Vx dealer conveniently just a few minutes walk away.

I've had some frighteningly expensive experiences with main dealers.  . . . . I'm just hoping that this isn't another one

Oh, I know that the experts will tell me what is wrong and how easy it is to do myself. No it's not. I don't do anything myself, no time, no skills, no tools, and no inclination.

You are not alone.

Much of the work will be completed/botched by a  17 year old neanderthal knuckledragger......for which they will charge £65 P/H plus VAT. ;)

It'll be fine. :)

Thanks for cheering my day up !   ::)

Title: Re: I'm a bit nervous . . . . VX Main Dealer
Post by: Rog on 30 October 2014, 11:02:46
Track rod end or ball joint :-\


See what they say . . . . . . and do . . . . . and charge me for . . . . .  :o

On the up-side they only want around £8 for a front bumper tow point cover or whatever it's called  :y
Title: Re: I'm a bit nervous . . . . VX Main Dealer
Post by: 05omegav6 on 30 October 2014, 11:10:45
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Track rod end or ball joint :-\


See what they say . . . . . . and do . . . . . and charge me for . . . . .  :o

On the up-side they only want around £8 for a front bumper tow point cover or whatever it's called  :y
Can they still get them :-\

Seriously, if it's a trackrod, you'll get away with just tracking afterwards, but if it's the ball joint... a) don't be fobbed off with needing a new wishbone, and b) you'll need a full set up afterwards :'( (assuming of course that they won't do that as part of the cost/job) :-\
Title: Re: I'm a bit nervous . . . . VX Main Dealer
Post by: Rog on 30 October 2014, 11:20:14
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vauxhall omega wheelsk=topic=126986.msg1620583#msg1620583 date=1414666966]
Track rod end or ball joint :-\


See what they say . . . . . . and do . . . . . and charge me for . . . . .  :o

On the up-side they only want around £8 for a front bumper tow point cover or whatever it's called  :y
Can they still get them :-\

Seriously, if it's a trackrod, you'll get away with just tracking afterwards, but if it's the ball joint... a) don't be fobbed off with needing a new wishbone, and b) you'll need a full set up afterwards :'( (assuming of course that they won't do that as part of the cost/job) :-\

1. Yes, they checked stock for me, but only in black. Happy to spray it. Got to be better than the hole that I've had there since debris on the M40 took it out a while ago.

2. Jury's out . . . . . .  :-\


Title: Re: I'm a bit nervous . . . . VX Main Dealer
Post by: 05omegav6 on 30 October 2014, 12:15:31
That's useful to know :y must be loads of MV6s knocking about without them ::)
Title: Re: I'm a bit nervous . . . . VX Main Dealer
Post by: tigers_gonads on 30 October 2014, 12:21:25
Track rod end or ball joint :-\


See what they say . . . . . . and do . . . . . and charge me for . . . . .  :o

On the up-side they only want around £8 for a front bumper tow point cover or whatever it's called  :y




Have you a part number for that Rog  :)
Title: Re: I'm a bit nervous . . . . VX Main Dealer
Post by: Rog on 30 October 2014, 12:48:35
Track rod end or ball joint :-\


See what they say . . . . . . and do . . . . . and charge me for . . . . .  :o

On the up-side they only want around £8 for a front bumper tow point cover or whatever it's called  :y

Have you a part number for that Rog  :)

Nope. I haven't actually got it yet. Will post when I have details . . . . . and I know it is the correct part  ;D


Title: Re: I'm a bit nervous . . . . VX Main Dealer
Post by: omega3000 on 30 October 2014, 13:05:24

Just moved and not familair with local garages etc. Off to France for a few days next week and the MV6 is ok, but there is an unpleasant vibration at speed. New tyres and balanced improved things but not improved enough. Old nearside tyre was very worn on the inner edge.

Bit the bullet and took it to the local Vx dealer conveniently just a few minutes walk away.

I've had some frighteningly expensive experiences with main dealers.  . . . . I'm just hoping that this isn't another one

Oh, I know that the experts will tell me what is wrong and how easy it is to do myself. No it's not. I don't do anything myself, no time, no skills, no tools, and no inclination.

You are not alone.

Much of the work will be completed/botched by a  17 year old neanderthal knuckledragger......for which they will charge £65 P/H plus VAT. ;)

It'll be fine. :)

Pretty reasonable for a stealer  :) 
Title: Re: I'm a bit nervous . . . . VX Main Dealer
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 30 October 2014, 15:54:31

Just moved and not familair with local garages etc. Off to France for a few days next week and the MV6 is ok, but there is an unpleasant vibration at speed. New tyres and balanced improved things but not improved enough. Old nearside tyre was very worn on the inner edge.

Bit the bullet and took it to the local Vx dealer conveniently just a few minutes walk away.

I've had some frighteningly expensive experiences with main dealers.  . . . . I'm just hoping that this isn't another one

Oh, I know that the experts will tell me what is wrong and how easy it is to do myself. No it's not. I don't do anything myself, no time, no skills, no tools, and no inclination.

You are not alone.

Much of the work will be completed/botched by a  17 year old neanderthal knuckledragger......for which they will charge £65 P/H plus VAT. ;)

It'll be fine. :)

Pretty reasonable for a stealer  :)

£78 including the dreaded is more than enough to be charged for work done by a semi-trained adolescent ape. ;)
Title: Re: I'm a bit nervous . . . . VX Main Dealer
Post by: TheBoy on 30 October 2014, 17:47:09
The criminals in MK, now closed (:D), used to charge £110PH 7 or 8 years ago.
Title: Re: I'm a bit nervous . . . . VX Main Dealer
Post by: henryd on 30 October 2014, 18:29:40

Just moved and not familair with local garages etc. Off to France for a few days next week and the MV6 is ok, but there is an unpleasant vibration at speed. New tyres and balanced improved things but not improved enough. Old nearside tyre was very worn on the inner edge.

Bit the bullet and took it to the local Vx dealer conveniently just a few minutes walk away.

I've had some frighteningly expensive experiences with main dealers.  . . . . I'm just hoping that this isn't another one

Oh, I know that the experts will tell me what is wrong and how easy it is to do myself. No it's not. I don't do anything myself, no time, no skills, no tools, and no inclination.

You are not alone.

Much of the work will be completed/botched by a  17 year old neanderthal knuckledragger......for which they will charge £65 P/H plus VAT. ;)

It'll be fine. :)

Pretty reasonable for a stealer  :)

£78 including the dreaded is more than enough to be charged for work done by a semi-trained adolescent ape. ;)

Most main dealers down this end are 90 + per hour plus vat.
Title: Re: I'm a bit nervous . . . . VX Main Dealer
Post by: Rog on 30 October 2014, 22:11:50


5.25pm Phone call. Nowt wrong with steering suspension etc. BUT 2 illegal rear tyres. Not what I was expecting. Still doesn't solve the steering vibration or whatever.
Title: Re: I'm a bit nervous . . . . VX Main Dealer
Post by: 05omegav6 on 30 October 2014, 22:22:05
Hmmm :-\ difficult to judge without seeing it...
Title: Re: I'm a bit nervous . . . . VX Main Dealer
Post by: plym ian on 30 October 2014, 22:39:14
Could it have throw a balance weight at all? Or may be a problem with new tyre?
Title: Re: I'm a bit nervous . . . . VX Main Dealer
Post by: aaronjb on 30 October 2014, 22:44:12
I thought I'd lost a balance weight on the M3 after a recent track day..

.. turned out all five rear wheel nuts were loose on one side  :-[ :-[
Title: Re: I'm a bit nervous . . . . VX Main Dealer
Post by: 05omegav6 on 30 October 2014, 22:44:38
Rear geometry can cause the car to crab if the thrust angle is off, and the constant 'correction' in one direction might highlight a weaker balljoint/tre, hence the vibration :-\

Expect the rear tyres to be wearing either centrally or inside edges depending on pressures/loads carried and camber respectively...
Title: Re: I'm a bit nervous . . . . VX Main Dealer
Post by: TheBoy on 01 November 2014, 09:54:13
.. turned out all five rear wheel nuts were loose on one side  :-[ :-[
Not let that gixer fellow near it, that's his trick :P
Title: Re: I'm a bit nervous . . . . VX Main Dealer
Post by: aaronjb on 01 November 2014, 14:02:09
.. turned out all five rear wheel nuts were loose on one side  :-[ :-[
Not let that gixer fellow near it, that's his trick :P

 ;D No, but next time I am adding "check wheel nuts" to my list of post-day tasks.. when I say loose, they were finger tight  :o :-X
Title: Re: I'm a bit nervous . . . . VX Main Dealer
Post by: Rog on 01 November 2014, 20:10:47


So . . . . . . . .

Instructions to garage
1. Vibration at speed. Check and sort it please
2. Spare key knackered, broken inside
3. Locking wheel nut sets sleeve split
4. Tow point cover please

Initial Response
1. No worn joints or anything found, even inspected by their bloke that does MOTs. However, both rear tyres illegal
2. Stock list shows new one in stock
3. Price give for complete new set, sleev not avialble on its own
4. Tow point cover showing in stock but in black

Result
1. New tyres fitted. I had asked for similar to front tyres. Same brand, but not same model. front has Bridgestone Turanza, they fitted Potenza. Not a big deal for me. Car was markedly improved. Vibration gone. Happy  :y

2. Spare key. Disaster time. Was told no reprogramming required. Then told yes it was, they'll do it free. reprogramming failed, blamed on wrong key. End result, no spare key, and the one that used to work doesn't work any more. I have to use the actual key and then start engine ASAP otherwise alarm goes off.

3. Sorted

4. Delay in delivery

Nice bill  :y    :y No charge for checking steering etc. Total £285. Compared with London, cheap. Ok, many here will be shocked, but I'm happy to pay, my car has to work for a living, and off to France next week.

Need to sort the key thing with them though . . . .

Nice people. Compared with other Vx main dealers I've experienced a huge improvement


Title: Re: I'm a bit nervous . . . . VX Main Dealer
Post by: Andy B on 01 November 2014, 20:23:27
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Need to sort the key thing with them though . . . .
 .....

re-sync  :-\ ie key in ignition, press lock ..... car should lock & then unlock = key now re-sync'd  :-\
Title: Re: I'm a bit nervous . . . . VX Main Dealer
Post by: Rog on 01 November 2014, 23:00:45
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Need to sort the key thing with them though . . . .
 .....

re-sync  :-\ ie key in ignition, press lock ..... car should lock & then unlock = key now re-sync'd  :-\

Just in ignition, or in ignition and turned so all lights on, or in ignition and engine fired . . . . ?

Title: Re: I'm a bit nervous . . . . VX Main Dealer
Post by: Broomies Mate on 01 November 2014, 23:07:32
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Need to sort the key thing with them though . . . .
 .....

re-sync  :-\ ie key in ignition, press lock ..... car should lock & then unlock = key now re-sync'd  :-\

Just in ignition, or in ignition and turned so all lights on, or in ignition and engine fired . . . . ?

Ignition on - all lights on dash.

Drivers door shut (although I'm told this isn't necessary on the Omega)

press lock then press unlock.  Do it a couple of times, just to make sure.

Ignition off and remove key.

Check it whilst sat there and smile when it works.  :y
Title: Re: I'm a bit nervous . . . . VX Main Dealer
Post by: Andy B on 01 November 2014, 23:07:59
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Just in ignition, or in ignition and turned so all lights on, or in ignition and engine fired . . . . ?

sorry .... ign on so lights are on, but engine off  :y
Title: Re: I'm a bit nervous . . . . VX Main Dealer
Post by: Rog on 02 November 2014, 11:29:54
....
Need to sort the key thing with them though . . . .
 .....

re-sync  :-\ ie key in ignition, press lock ..... car should lock & then unlock = key now re-sync'd  :-\

Just in ignition, or in ignition and turned so all lights on, or in ignition and engine fired . . . . ?

Ignition on - all lights on dash.

Drivers door shut (although I'm told this isn't necessary on the Omega)

press lock then press unlock.  Do it a couple of times, just to make sure.

Ignition off and remove key.

Check it whilst sat there and smile when it works.  :y

Nope. Sorry, didn't work. Alarm sounds as soon as door is opened and remote flashes when buttons pressed but does nothing whatsoever with the car.

The guy in the garage was using Tech 2 or something to try and set up the spare key. I think he messed everything up somehow.  :(


Title: Re: I'm a bit nervous . . . . VX Main Dealer
Post by: tigers_gonads on 02 November 2014, 11:41:14
Did you get the front tow bar cover ?
Title: Re: I'm a bit nervous . . . . VX Main Dealer
Post by: Rog on 02 November 2014, 13:51:42
Did you get the front tow bar cover ?

No. It showed on their stock list as being available in another branch, but it didn't turn up. They say that it will.

Title: Re: I'm a bit nervous . . . . VX Main Dealer
Post by: TheBoy on 03 November 2014, 18:12:34
Re the key, couple of questions...

a) Do you have the carpass?
b) Has any idiot been near it with a cloned, non-legal code reader well reknown for knackering ECUs?
Title: Re: I'm a bit nervous . . . . VX Main Dealer
Post by: Rog on 03 November 2014, 19:53:37
Re the key, couple of questions...

a) Do you have the carpass?
b) Has any idiot been near it with a cloned, non-legal code reader well reknown for knackering ECUs?

A) No, or if I did, I've lost it
B) Don't know. If some idiot did then he was employed by a Vx main dealer  :D but who knows, just maybe . . .

However, took car back this AM, sorted in around 30 mins or so.