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Title: Cock, cock, cock and double cock
Post by: TheBoy on 22 November 2014, 18:13:44
Sheared a glowplug. Now what?

'dangle berries'. Double 'dangle berries' and triple 'dangle berries'. With cherries on top.
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Post by: The Sheriff on 22 November 2014, 18:19:17
http://youtu.be/ee6sfgIhfT4
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Post by: The Sheriff on 22 November 2014, 18:22:04
Looks like a piece o piss.......not ;D
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Post by: joff on 22 November 2014, 18:24:47
Leave it as it is if its gas tight, and just let it run on 3 new ones :y it will be fine, did the same on an Astra a few years back.
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Post by: henryd on 22 November 2014, 18:27:58
Leave it as it is if its gas tight, and just let it run on 3 new ones :y it will be fine, did the same on an Astra a few years back.

That's what I would do too if car doesn't have big value,you may need to connect a plug to the spare wire to keep the mil light out.
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Post by: henryd on 22 November 2014, 18:29:48
Sheared a glowplug. Now what?

'dangle berries'. Double 'dangle berries' and triple 'dangle berries'. With cherries on top.

No consolation to you but it's only been Vauxhall glows that I've ever really struggled to remove :-\
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Post by: TheBoy on 22 November 2014, 18:41:55
Leave it as it is if its gas tight, and just let it run on 3 new ones :y it will be fine, did the same on an Astra a few years back.

That's what I would do too if car doesn't have big value,you may need to connect a plug to the spare wire to keep the mil light out.
Joff/henryd, will this affect its willingness to start on cold mornings? As recently, its been an arse to start, and it hasn't really got cold yet.
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Post by: GastronomicKleptomaniac on 22 November 2014, 18:44:57
Leave it as it is if its gas tight, and just let it run on 3 new ones :y it will be fine, did the same on an Astra a few years back.

That's what I would do too if car doesn't have big value,you may need to connect a plug to the spare wire to keep the mil light out.
Joff/henryd, will this affect its willingness to start on cold mornings? As recently, its been an arse to start, and it hasn't really got cold yet.

Three new plugs may well be more efficient than four old ones - may as well try it before trying to get the remains out, since you'll end up having to replace that one regardless. IMHO.
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Post by: joff on 22 November 2014, 18:55:01
Leave it as it is if its gas tight, and just let it run on 3 new ones :y it will be fine, did the same on an Astra a few years back.

That's what I would do too if car doesn't have big value,you may need to connect a plug to the spare wire to keep the mil light out.
Joff/henryd, will this affect its willingness to start on cold mornings? As recently, its been an arse to start, and it hasn't really got cold yet.

Have you got the other 3 out ?

I never had any problems running on the 3 new ones I put in and that year it was down to -10C
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Post by: joff on 22 November 2014, 18:56:23
Leave it as it is if its gas tight, and just let it run on 3 new ones :y it will be fine, did the same on an Astra a few years back.

That's what I would do too if car doesn't have big value,you may need to connect a plug to the spare wire to keep the mil light out.

That's what I did, No I just put the plug back on the old one :y
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Post by: TheBoy on 22 November 2014, 18:58:42
Other 3 came straight out, no issues.

I haven't actually snapped the plug clean off yet, can I connect the wire to this, or is that likely to pop a fuse etc?
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Post by: henryd on 22 November 2014, 19:05:43
Other 3 came straight out, no issues.

I haven't actually snapped the plug clean off yet, can I connect the wire to this, or is that likely to pop a fuse etc?

Try it and see but it'll start fine on three plugs
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Post by: joff on 22 November 2014, 19:20:02
Other 3 came straight out, no issues.

I haven't actually snapped the plug clean off yet, can I connect the wire to this, or is that likely to pop a fuse etc?

on mine it was just turning but not unscrewing, think the wire inside was still connected, so I just put the plug back on it and left it,
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Post by: 05omegav6 on 22 November 2014, 20:50:18
Araldite the cover on before you sell it too... :y
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Post by: kevinp58 on 23 November 2014, 00:00:51
It will start fine with 3 new ones and after a couple of revolutions the fourth will be ok.  :y
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Post by: TheBoy on 23 November 2014, 16:25:02
Hmmm, it wasn't keen on starting this morning. Worse than it was before.

Its also got an EML for glowplug circuit.
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Post by: 05omegav6 on 23 November 2014, 16:40:50
Off with its' head... ;D
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Post by: TheBoy on 23 November 2014, 16:42:03
Off with its' head... ;D
Not happening. Its simply not worth it. It'll get towed down the scrappers first ;)
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Post by: Taxi_Driver on 23 November 2014, 16:43:10
Hmmm, it wasn't keen on starting this morning. Worse than it was before.

Its also got an EML for glowplug circuit
.

Have you blown the fuse?

TBH diesels don't really need glow plugs in this country, doesn't get cold enough...

On my old merc C220, that had 3 blown glowplugs before I changed them and I only changed them, because I was selling the thing and wanted the warning light off. It still started ok in the winter....just took a bit longer cranking...few secs longer.

My skoda Octavia is the same....turn the key and immediately start cranking....it starts but it takes it a couple of secs longer than if I wait for the glowplug light to go off  :y

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Post by: Crazycarzowner on 23 November 2014, 16:53:22
Before I did my Superb, it had 1 of the 6 working and started fine after a few revolutions, kicked out a bit of smoke though which was fun. It should start ok on 3 new ones.
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Post by: henryd on 23 November 2014, 16:56:05
Hmmm, it wasn't keen on starting this morning. Worse than it was before.

Its also got an EML for glowplug circuit.

Is the glow module supplying power to the plugs at all?,it should start fine with three
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Post by: TheBoy on 23 November 2014, 16:58:29
Hmmm, it wasn't keen on starting this morning. Worse than it was before.

Its also got an EML for glowplug circuit.

Is the glow module supplying power to the plugs at all?,it should start fine with three
I'm wondering if its detecting the shite one, and applying no power.
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Post by: henryd on 23 November 2014, 17:01:41
Hmmm, it wasn't keen on starting this morning. Worse than it was before.

Its also got an EML for glowplug circuit.

Is the glow module supplying power to the plugs at all?,it should start fine with three
I'm wondering if its detecting the shite one, and applying no power.

Worth checking with a meter what's occurring,if the one that's sheared has gone dead short it will bugger the rest I would have thought,disconnect duff one and see if things improve
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Post by: TheBoy on 23 November 2014, 17:04:20
Hmmm, it wasn't keen on starting this morning. Worse than it was before.

Its also got an EML for glowplug circuit.

Is the glow module supplying power to the plugs at all?,it should start fine with three
I'm wondering if its detecting the shite one, and applying no power.

Worth checking with a meter what's occurring,if the one that's sheared has gone dead short it will bugger the rest I would have thought,disconnect duff one and see if things improve
Job for a non-CBA moment - laying in bath, and its dark out anyway ::)
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Post by: symes on 23 November 2014, 20:53:00
I would do as reply 2 :y :y
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Post by: TheBoy on 24 November 2014, 17:58:44
OK, EML on with glow plug connected and disconnected. Jury still out if it starts easier with it connected or not (it was harder this morning with glow plug disconnected, but then it was pretty nippy out).

For EML, I guess the old one has to come out, which I suspect puts the car in the scrapyard territory
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Post by: henryd on 24 November 2014, 18:11:48
OK, EML on with glow plug connected and disconnected. Jury still out if it starts easier with it connected or not (it was harder this morning with glow plug disconnected, but then it was pretty nippy out).

For EML, I guess the old one has to come out, which I suspect puts the car in the scrapyard territory

I can't see why,how would the ecu know if its lying on top of the head or screwed into it unless it needs to be grounded via the threads ???
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Post by: chrisgixer on 24 November 2014, 18:20:38
Does the op not have Tech 2. To "see" why its upset?


Or is it me? ;D
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Post by: henryd on 24 November 2014, 18:21:57
Does the op not have Tech 2. To "see" why its upset?


Or is it me? ;D

10964 ::) :D
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Post by: TheBoy on 24 November 2014, 18:22:16
Does the op not have Tech 2. To "see" why its upset?


Or is it me? ;D
P1635 general glowplug error

Its a separate ECU, not diagnosable, thus one useless, poxy code to go on.
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Post by: henryd on 24 November 2014, 18:23:22
Does the op not have Tech 2. To "see" why its upset?


Or is it me? ;D
P1635 general glowplug error

Its a separate ECU, not diagnosable, thus one useless, poxy code to go on.

Have you checked that the glow plug module is emitting electrickery ???
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Post by: chrisgixer on 24 November 2014, 18:23:48
Scrap it.
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Post by: joff on 24 November 2014, 18:29:54
Does the op not have Tech 2. To "see" why its upset?


Or is it me? ;D
P1635 general glowplug error

Its a separate ECU, not diagnosable, thus one useless, poxy code to go on.

Think the wire has gone in the old plug then!!! I was lucky the wire was ok but the plug did not work, no EML on the one I had.
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Post by: TheBoy on 24 November 2014, 18:32:46
Does the op not have Tech 2. To "see" why its upset?


Or is it me? ;D
P1635 general glowplug error

Its a separate ECU, not diagnosable, thus one useless, poxy code to go on.

Have you checked that the glow plug module is emitting electrickery ???
Not yet, job for when its light, and I'm not late for work ;D