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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Varche on 23 November 2014, 10:57:00
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I am really looking forward to this final F1 race. There hasn't been much between Rosberg and Hamilton all season. Strong pairing unlike some of the other teams. Hope no mechanical failures.
Nice to see Red Bull get clobbered for err bending the wing rules. If nothing else Dan will be impressive haring through the field.
Anyone else wonder if Vettel is going to a few years of Ferrari wilderness? I am sure that Mclaren/Honda will be competitive and so will Mercedes next year. maybe Ferrari have a new engine? Maybe Ross Brawn is coming back if they can shovel all the dead wood away?
A few other places down the field to be decided too. Alonso Vettel for example though that now maybe a foregone conclusion.
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Rosberg car failing on lap 26..........justice for the cheat..... so far :y
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Looking good so far. :)
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The cars on the track go round and round, round and round.
The cars on the track go round and round, round and round.
All day long ;D
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Well done Lewis, F1 Champion with style, justice is done, the spoilt cheating brat got his just deserts. :y
Great race, Williams are back :y Red Bulls strangle hold is broken :y Sam Michaels the man who ruined Williams and McLaren is freakin off back to the antipedes :y
If there is a God Button will still be in his seat next year.
Not a bad season overall, roll on next year and Honda's return. :y
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I enjoyed that. I was still clenching my buttocks even when Rosberg was out of it.
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Congrats to Lewis, Sent the German packing. :y :y
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I've always said Lewis is the best driver on the grid, an amazing day for him!! But I can't help but worry for Jenson! It won't be the same without him I do hope Mclaren realise he still has it in him!! :y
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I've always said Lewis is the best driver on the grid, an amazing day for him!! But I can't help but worry for Jenson! It won't be the same without him I do hope Mclaren realise he still has it in him!! :y
He's scored 120 odd points against the Danes 50odd,it'll be salary cost that decides it sadly as Alonso is going to cost them dear,I'll be sad if he's not there next year :'(
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As Mclaren struggled for a main sponsor this season I fear you are right, but on the other hand they have said they want the best 2 drivers available which would be Jenson and fernando
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Congratulation to Lewis. (Not that he's reading this ;D ) double world champion 2014 :y
Awsome car/team/driver package to over at Brackley. I wonder what Ross Brawn was thinking as Lewis crossed the line? Lewis had some messages from him I think he mentioned. Louder wasn't particularly complimentary, saying Brawn wanted to go fishing. That's not how I rememder it ::)
Personally I get a sense of satisfaction seeing Ferrari struggling so much AND dealing with their arrogance at the same time. ;D however, interesting comments here regarding enhancing change, and NOT being afraid of it, Varche. ;)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/30179916
Under all that though. I do get a sense of unfairness given the amount of development time Mercedes have had with their Engines over everyone else since almost 2010. Almost two years more than Ferrari going by some reports did I see? That can't be right.
Anyway, Ferarri need to move to the UK I recon. Rather than trying to Nic UK engineers and claim the glory for Italy.
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In fact Ferrari insider calling for the return of Ross the Boss ;D
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I actually think the Mclaren/Honda package could potentially be up there fighting with Mercedes (I hope)
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If Dennis the menis is to be believed then yes. But then, he would suggest as much, wouldn't he.
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Ross Brawn (under the right heirarchy) would be a good thing for Ferrari.
Mclaren. If I was the team boss I would let both drivers go. Button (for all of him being British) never really hit the top notes for me good number two driver in his time and crucially good in wet weather. Plenty of talented young drivers available for not much money to occupy the number two seat with Alonso. Who? would ever want that job! All you need to do is look at Dan Ricciardo to see what I mean. Who would have thought a rookie would show up the (supposed) talent of Vettel? There I expect to be bullied at school tomorrow.
Ferrari (FIA) has had it their own way in the past but what is the answer over engines? One make of engine only? Can't see Ferrari agreeing to that unless it was theirs. Ferrari engine in a Merc can't see that either. It is interesting how Williams can make a more reliable car that is nearly as fast as the Mercs. Will we be saying next year after total dominance by Honda that they had all that time to perfect an engine (something they have done before by the way)
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In Buttons defence, and nothing to do with being British, he has continually been asking for a more pointy car. He hates under steer, and has had almost nothing but from Mclaren since arrival.
So given that fact, as I see it at least, one would have to lay the blame squarely at the door of the team in not supplying him a pointy car over so many seasons. They new he was a pointy driver, so to speak, when the signed him from Brawn, then repeatedly gave him understear, to the point he gave up complaining about it it seems.
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Button, whilst in the early days a good car developer, is ultimately a loser. Always has been, always will be. Lower teams may be interested for the right price, but he's too much of a spoilt brat for that.
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Without opening the page... Oh look TB has posted on an f1 thread, a topic he freely admits has no interest in, so obviously that's going to be a negative post.
Open page. Yep Tb is wining about f1. No problem there as such, except TB is looking for positive input going by posts less than an hour ago, and is clearly looking to be argumentative.
Remind me exactly what your trying to achieve here again? Do as he says not as he does by the looks.
What utter bollards too. By the way. ::)
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Without opening the page... Oh look TB has posted on an f1 thread, a topic he freely admits has no interest in, so obviously that's going to be a negative post.
Open page. Yep Tb is wining about f1. No problem there as such, except TB is looking for positive input going by posts less than an hour ago, and is clearly looking to be argumentative.
Remind me exactly what your trying to achieve here again? Do as he says not as he does by the looks.
What utter bollards too. By the way. ::)
Oh, forgive me for daring to have a different viewpoint to you. Is it any wonder that people piss off from OOF when anyone dares disagree? Or that so many don't want to join? Exactly my point.
And to untwist your post, I've never said I have no interest in F1, I've only said in its current, false form, its dull and boring. Its motorsport, of course I have an interest. But boy could it be so much more if it was allowed to be a proper racing event. Additionally, the post you quote had no whining about F1.
Button lacks the desire to win. He's too much of a steady-as-she-goes, rather than a win-at-all-costs. And that's why he's always under achieved. Great drivers, like Senna, Prost, Mansell, Schumacher and even Vettel to an extent are able to get the most out of any car. I'd probably start to include Hamilton in that as well.
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See I cant, don't, and won't believe anyone in their right mind could possibly genuinely have that belief. It's so utterly deluded as to be pure fiction and bitter to the point of trolling other members.
He's a world champion. A feet that's simply unacheivable if your values are true. Then your reply is utterly aggressive and rude. Something your far too quick to accuse others of in the face of similar stupidity.
Drag yourself out of troll mode, your admin for crying out loud.
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I mean who would want to engage in a formerly perfectly normal conversation with posts like that flying in. Is it any wonder members are thin on the ground. If I'm thinking of clearing off in the face of such abuse, what must newer members be thinking?
Derrrr! :D
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See I cant, don't, and won't believe anyone in their right mind could possibly genuinely have that belief. It's so utterly deluded as to be pure fiction and bitter to the point of trolling other members.
He's a world champion. A feet that's simply unacheivable if your values are true. Then your reply is utterly aggressive and rude. Something your far too quick to accuse others of in the face of similar stupidity.
Drag yourself out of troll mode, your admin for crying out loud.
Referring to other members as trolls is most likely not complying with the guidelines.
And, yes, I do believe he is unlikely to be anything other than a loser. He virtually threw away his World Championship by not having the right attitude to winning. He got it by the skin of his teeth purely due to Brawn's complete and utter dominance for the first half a dozen races until the others caught up. Ironically, that race in Brazil that clinched the title I would say was undoubtedly his finest race.
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....and clearly shows his talent. Your post is clearly contradicting itself. He threw it away on the one hand, then the rest of the pack cought up on the other.
Cobblers man!
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Certainly talented, especially earlier in his career. But lacking a willingness to take risks to improve his position, when his peers will. Despite having some of the top drives throughout his F1 career, he has under achieved. And that's why he can't demand the big bucks.
And I'll not post any more on this thread, accept the fact we'll always disagree on his ability (or lack of). The future will show who was nearer the mark :)
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I doubt it. He'll likely be out of a job on dec 1st. Due to lack of cars on the grid and Mclaren taking Hondas engines who specified Alonso. The rest is a numbers game.
And as Alonso won't have the same car as Button, we'll never know.