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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Broomies Mate on 26 November 2014, 22:01:43
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I'm not into bullying, or owt like that..... but;
Why does a certain member claim the Ford Focus is a terrible handling car, when it is very clearly the best handling car in it's class (and the class above and below).
Why does that same member claim the 3.2/2.6 is pathetic and worth nothing, yet the 3.0/2.5 is astonishingly good.... bear in mind the later engined vehicles are faster, marginally more economical and easier to work on.
Is it;
A) The member has no clue on how to drive?
B) The member is just jealous of others?
C) The member is a 'member'?
D) All of the above?
I can't be arsed to do a poll. And this thread will be deleted in a few minutes anyway! ;D
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What's up, feel overburdened with all those posts? ;D ;D ;D
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Would this be aimed at a certain 'portly' admin? ;D ;D
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What's up, feel overburdened with all those posts? ;D ;D ;D
Post count means nothing! ;D
Would this be aimed at a certain 'portly' admin? ;D ;D
Nobody in particular. :-\
2553 :-X
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I think the honourable member from Bristol will be needing a certain Avatar pic. ;D
It's because he is very argumentative, and wants to be the best at everything. So therfor must be the most argumentative. This leads to views so out of the relm of reason that I'm suprised he doesn't walk round with a ruck sack sown into his skin, he's that extreme.
N95 mobile phones. The best Nokia ever produced, is Gay.
Jenson Button, former world champ. Spoilt looser apparently.
Anything F1,
Blue LEDs,
Fony electronics.
Anyone living in Banbury.
The Bp at the top of the road.
....need I go on? The mans a lunatic control freek. I refuse to be groomed personally, I don't know about you lot.
But it's our forum apparently ::) ;D ;D ;D yeah right. ;D
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I think the honourable member from Bristol will be needing a certain Avatar pic. ;D
It's because he is very argumentative, and wants to be the best at everything. So therfor must be the most argumentative. This leads to views so out of the relm of reason that I'm suprised he doesn't walk round with a ruck sack sown into his skin, he's that extreme.
N95 mobile phones. The best Nokia ever produced, is Gay.
Jenson Button, former world champ. Spoilt looser apparently.
Anything F1,
Blue LEDs,
Fony electronics.
Anyone living in Banbury.
The Bp at the top of the road.
....need I go on? The mans a lunatic control freek. I refuse to be groomed personally, I don't know about you lot.
But it's our forum apparently ::) ;D ;D ;D yeah right. ;D
Sorry Chris, I think we have our wires crossed.
The person I'm thinking of is much worse! :P
Aye, that's him!
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I like my Avatar :-[
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Bugger it - Poll Added.
Vote as many times as you like! ;D
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Can you tell he's bought a Saab? ;D
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I think the honourable member from Bristol will be needing a certain Avatar pic. ;D
It's because he is very argumentative, and wants to be the best at everything. So therfor must be the most argumentative. This leads to views so out of the relm of reason that I'm suprised he doesn't walk round with a ruck sack sown into his skin, he's that extreme.
N95 mobile phones. The best Nokia ever produced, is Gay.
Jenson Button, former world champ. Spoilt looser apparently.
Anything F1,
Blue LEDs,
Fony electronics.
Anyone living in Banbury.
The Bp at the top of the road.
....need I go on? The mans a lunatic control freek. I refuse to be groomed personally, I don't know about you lot.
But it's our forum apparently ::) ;D ;D ;D yeah right. ;D
Sorry Chris, I think we have our wires crossed.
The person I'm thinking of is much worse! :P
Aye, that's him!
Far too late for ducking and weaving ::) ::) ::)
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All of the above, 7! ;D not looking good for him is it! ;D
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All of the above, 7! ;D not looking good for him is it! ;D
I thought there'd be more votes ::) :D
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Would this be aimed at a certain 'portly' admin? ;D ;D
All of the admins are portly. ;D
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Except AA.
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And maybe Broocie. ;D
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In fact, according to my BMI thread, this forum contains more portly members than most. :P
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In fact, according to my BMI thread, this forum contains more portly members than most. :P
More usually known as fat bastards. :)
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Except AA.
Except Marks Dtm.
And maybe Broocie. ;D
Well that only leaves one Esta. So what you trying to say? ;D
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Except AA.
Except Marks Dtm.
And maybe Broocie. ;D
Well that only leaves one Esta. So what you trying to say? ;D
I'm trying to be diplomatic here...if yer don't mind.... ;D
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Except AA.
Except Marks Dtm.
And maybe Broocie. ;D
Well that only leaves one Esta. So what you trying to say? ;D
I'm trying to be diplomatic here...if yer don't mind.... ;D
The Med's have kicked in then Steve?..................... :D :D ;)
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I assumed aimed at me, so...
claim the Ford Focus is a terrible handling car
Because it is ;)
Why does that same member claim the 3.2/2.6 is pathetic and worth nothing, yet the 3.0/2.5 is astonishingly good
bear in mind the later engined vehicles are faster, marginally more economical and easier to work on.
Because the 3.0 is quicker and more economical than the 3.2
A) The member has no clue on how to drive?
Possibly
B) The member is just jealous of others?
Nah, I have my health and the love of a good woman, I've nothing to be jealous of
C) The member is a 'member'?
Possibly
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I assumed aimed at me, so...
claim the Ford Focus is a terrible handling car
Because it is ;)
Why does that same member claim the 3.2/2.6 is pathetic and worth nothing, yet the 3.0/2.5 is astonishingly good
bear in mind the later engined vehicles are faster, marginally more economical and easier to work on.
Because the 3.0 is quicker and more economical than the 3.2
A) The member has no clue on how to drive?
Possibly
B) The member is just jealous of others?
Nah, I have my health and the love of a good woman, I've nothing to be jealous of
C) The member is a 'member'?
Possibly
TB only thinks this, because his 3.0 is chipped. ::)
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This carrot cider is good stuff btw. ;D
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TB only thinks this, because his 3.0 is chipped. ::)
Like that would help my economy, I think not! ;D
TBH, I'd be surprised if such a chip for a NA car would add back what 16yrs/219k has taken away, sadly.
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This carrot cider is good stuff btw. ;D
Arrr! :y
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Because the 3.0 is quicker and more economical than the 3.2
Hats off to that (http://1389blog.com/pix/HatTipSmileyAnim.gif)
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....except.... It isn't. :)
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....except.... It isn't. :)
It is as TB said so , so there :P :P ;D
:)
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....except.... It isn't. :)
It is as TB said so , so there :P :P ;D
:)
I can't ever remember a 3.0 coming past me on full chat. Has anyone ever witnessed this occurrence. ;) ;D
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Ive never seen any 3.0 come past me whilst off roading and using low gearbox,must be urban myth as the 2.2 truck must be far superior than a 3.0 omega then ;D
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....except.... It isn't. :)
It is as TB said so , so there :P :P ;D
:)
I can't ever remember a 3.0 coming past me on full chat. Has anyone ever witnessed this occurrence. ;) ;D
Thats cos your always in the petrol station ;D ;D ;)
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(http://www.skeptik.ee/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/ObviousTroll.jpg) ;D
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Just what are we trying to compare here anyway ??? to say 3.0 v 3.2 is way too simplistic ..
The 3.0 comes in 4 "guises": Elite; auto & manual and MV6; auto & manual
The 3.2 comes in 2 .... Elite auto & MV6 auto.
If we compare Like-for-like ...
3.0 Elite Auto, 1770 Kg, 207 bhp = 116.9 bhp/Tonne
3.2 Elite Auto, 1700 Kg, 213 bhp = 125.3 bhp/Tonne
Retires to fit tin hat .... :D :D :D
the 3.2 will outperform the 3.0
3.0 MV6 Auto, 1660 Kg, 207 bhp = 124.7 bhp/Tonne
3.2 MV6 Auto, 1656 Kg, 213 bhp = 128.6 bhp/Tonne
the 3.2 will outperform the 3.0
HOWEVER
3.0 MV6 manual, 1640 Kg, 207 bhp = 126.2 bhp/Tonne
3.2 Elite Auto, 1700 Kg, 213 bhp = 125.3 bhp/Tonne
then the MV6 "should" just about beat the 3.2 ...
as long as equal comparisons are made the manual MV6 cannot be included as the 3.2 was not made in manual form ....
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Ahem.. 3.2 Manual :-X
;D ;D ;D
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Ahem.. 3.2 Manual :-X
;D ;D ;D
ex plod ... not listed... ;) ;)
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Clearly ;D
A 3.2 manual saloon should be 1640kgs 213bhp, well over 128bhp/tonne :P
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Ah, but you forget, a normal non super human human can't stir the manual box as quick as the auto can with no super human input at all. Because, the manual is always in the wrong gear. I'm told ;D
What we are learning here though is, never let the facts stand in the way off a good argument. ....EVER ;D :y :y :y
;D
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Yes, but if I also mentioned the estate figures, 1865kgs 213bhp = 114.2 bhp/tonne...
Then there would be no argument at all, because inspite of being 165kgs heavier and in the wrong gear, it still kept up ;D
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3.0i V6 24V Elite 4d Auto 9.0 secs 148 mph 207 bhp
3.2 V6 24V Elite 4d Auto (LT) 8.0 secs 149 mph 213 bhp
So which figure says the 3.0 is quicker. :-\
Ahem.. 3.2 Manual :-X
;D ;D ;D
ex plod ... not listed... ;) ;)
Clearly ;D
A 3.2 manual saloon should be 1640kgs 213bhp, well over 128bhp/tonne :P
Oi you two, as 3.2 owners you are both on the same side. ;D
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What we need here is an MX5 :y
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What we need here is an MX5 :y
(http://www.quickmeme.com/img/01/017d1d416e151787ec6e98ae6ec4c442fb3ae975916437fe9d991cd1475f81ab.jpg) ::)
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Yes, but if I also mentioned the estate figures, 1865kgs 213bhp = 114.2 bhp/tonne...
Then there would be no argument at all, because inspite of being 165kgs heavier and in the wrong gear, it still kept up ;D
Yes I suppose it did. ....eventually ;) ;D
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What we need here is an MX5 :y
(http://www.quickmeme.com/img/01/017d1d416e151787ec6e98ae6ec4c442fb3ae975916437fe9d991cd1475f81ab.jpg) ::)
:D
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::) ::)
manuals vs autos must never be compared in terms of acceleration specifically from 0 .. autos lock up very late..
manual 3.0 vs 3.2 still depends on the engine health and gear ratios as the power difference really negligible..
and this is valid on a straight line.. when you introduce some curves it will include driver and things will really change ;)
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What we need here is an MX5 :y
We certainly do, that would shut them up, as it is a proven fact that it is faster than any standard Mig............ :D :D :D
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As are most things, comfortable yes, fast no.
Mine slower than a very slow thing..... but comfy, :y
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As are most things, comfortable yes, fast no.
Mine slower than a very slow thing..... but comfy, :y
Can't argue with that......... :y :y
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What we need here is an MX5 :y
We certainly do, that would shut them up, as it is a proven fact that it is faster than any standard Mig............ :D :D :D
Or a Leaf.....it's faster than any miggy.........to 30mph ::) ;D
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Plenty of cars faster than an omega. Not many I can get both feet in with enough head room though.
Is300 is faster. Even in Silver.
But the mx5 i'd need one for each foot, no matter how good it is.
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What we need here is an MX5 :y
We certainly do, that would shut them up, as it is a proven fact that it is faster than any standard Mig............ :D :D :D
Or a Leaf.....it's faster than any miggy.........to 30mph ::) ;D
Race you to Leeds :y
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What we need here is an MX5 :y
We certainly do, that would shut them up, as it is a proven fact that it is faster than any standard Mig............ :D :D :D
So, am I to believe the MX5 was standard, or was it running a SC. :-\ If running a SC, I'm more impressed with how close the Zafira got to it. :o :o
And if anyone racing was in a 3.0, you should be ashamed of yourselves. ;D ;D
Just a reminder:
http://youtu.be/17d9fJriFb0
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But the mx5 i'd need one for each foot, no matter how good it is.
Have you driven one?
The Mk.2 certainly isn't short of leg room.
You do need to compromise on some creature comforts to get performance, of course. ;)
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So, am I to believe the MX5 was standard, or was it running a SC. :-\ If running a SC, I'm more impressed with how close the Zafira got to it. :o :o
And if anyone racing was in a 3.0, you should be ashamed of yourselves. ;D ;D
Just a reminder:
http://youtu.be/17d9fJriFb0
MX5 was a bog standard Mk.1 1.8 IIRC.
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So, am I to believe the MX5 was standard, or was it running a SC. :-\ If running a SC, I'm more impressed with how close the Zafira got to it. :o :o
And if anyone racing was in a 3.0, you should be ashamed of yourselves. ;D ;D
Just a reminder:
http://youtu.be/17d9fJriFb0
MX5 was a bog standard Mk.1 1.8 IIRC.
This is what confuses me. :-\ My 3.2 absolutely pisses my nephews S2000 and Type R. They don't even get close to it, hence my disbelief. He has had several runs with it but never got close and it's an effortless win. They share similar 0-60 and top speed but mid range the 3.2 annihilates it.
I'm not bragging about the 3.2 as my 430 annihilates that in a similar fashion. :)
The Zafira shocked me most I think. :y
Anyway, not interested in speed anymore. ::)
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But the mx5 i'd need one for each foot, no matter how good it is.
Have you driven one?
The Mk.2 certainly isn't short of leg room.
You do need to compromise on some creature comforts to get performance, of course. ;)
I'm not up for sitting on the floor either. No. No. And, er.....NO! Thanks. :)
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No chance in this world that MX5 is standard. It wouldn't get close to a 3.2 in a straight line dash.
It'll piss all over a 3.0 though! ;D
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No chance in this world that MX5 is standard. It wouldn't get close to a 3.2 in a straight line dash.
It'll piss all over a 3.0 though! ;D
Well it was and it did, as proved at the York Meet, when a member with an MX5 left all Migs standing, oh we did laugh............. :D :D :D
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So, am I to believe the MX5 was standard, or was it running a SC. :-\ If running a SC, I'm more impressed with how close the Zafira got to it. :o :o
And if anyone racing was in a 3.0, you should be ashamed of yourselves. ;D ;D
Just a reminder:
http://youtu.be/17d9fJriFb0 (http://youtu.be/17d9fJriFb0)
MX5 was a bog standard Mk.1 1.8 IIRC.
This is what confuses me. :-\ My 3.2 absolutely pisses my nephews S2000 and Type R. They don't even get close to it, hence my disbelief. He has had several runs with it but never got close and it's an effortless win. They share similar 0-60 and top speed but mid range the 3.2 annihilates it.
I'm not bragging about the 3.2 as my 430 annihilates that in a similar fashion. :)
The Zafira shocked me most I think. :y
Anyway, not interested in speed anymore. ::)
??? ???
a stock s2000 is around 6 - 6.5 seconds..
its 237 hp weight 1250 to 1300 kg against a car that weights 1700kg and 213 hp.. nope.. :-\
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No chance in this world that MX5 is standard. It wouldn't get close to a 3.2 in a straight line dash.
It'll piss all over a 3.0 though! ;D
Well it was and it did, as proved at the York Meet, when a member with an MX5 left all Migs standing, oh we did laugh............. :D :D :D
;D ;D ;D
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So, am I to believe the MX5 was standard, or was it running a SC. :-\ If running a SC, I'm more impressed with how close the Zafira got to it. :o :o
And if anyone racing was in a 3.0, you should be ashamed of yourselves. ;D ;D
Just a reminder:
http://youtu.be/17d9fJriFb0 (http://youtu.be/17d9fJriFb0)
MX5 was a bog standard Mk.1 1.8 IIRC.
This is what confuses me. :-\ My 3.2 absolutely pisses my nephews S2000 and Type R. They don't even get close to it, hence my disbelief. He has had several runs with it but never got close and it's an effortless win. They share similar 0-60 and top speed but mid range the 3.2 annihilates it.
I'm not bragging about the 3.2 as my 430 annihilates that in a similar fashion. :)
The Zafira shocked me most I think. :y
Anyway, not interested in speed anymore. ::)
??? ???
a stock s2000 is around 6 - 6.5 seconds..
its 237 hp weight 1250 to 1300 kg against a car that weights 1700kg and 213 hp.. nope.. :-\
But no torque mid-range Cem. :y I couldn't believe it at first and neither could he. They really ain't that quick. :y
No chance in this world that MX5 is standard. It wouldn't get close to a 3.2 in a straight line dash.
It'll piss all over a 3.0 though! ;D
Well it was and it did, as proved at the York Meet, when a member with an MX5 left all Migs standing, oh we did laugh............. :D :D :D
You guys smoke some really good stuff. :o :o
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No chance in this world that MX5 is standard. It wouldn't get close to a 3.2 in a straight line dash.
It'll piss all over a 3.0 though! ;D
Apart from a de cat a stainless steel exhaust and a power sapping pipercross air filter it was standard. I know because it was mine and it shut the hairdresser name callers up for a little while ;D ;D
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No chance in this world that MX5 is standard. It wouldn't get close to a 3.2 in a straight line dash.
It'll piss all over a 3.0 though! ;D
Apart from a de cat a stainless steel exhaust and a power sapping pipercross air filter it was standard. I know because it was mine and it shut the hairdresser name callers up for a little while ;D ;D
Didn't beat mine though....... :-)
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An mx5 or an S 2000 would piss all over any two ton barge I know of. ;D
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An mx5 or an S 2000 would piss all over any two ton barge I know of. ;D
Agreed. And, if not, throw in a few bends and the Omega will be history.
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An mx5 or an S 2000 would piss all over any two ton barge I know of. ;D
Not with you driving it won't. ;D
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...and why does this certain member think he lives in the South, when he actually lives in the South midlands?
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I thought anything north of the Thames is err.... North. ;D
Kent, now that's South. :y
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An mx5 or an S 2000 would piss all over any two ton barge I know of. ;D
definitely
http://www.accelerationtimes.com/models/honda_s2000 (http://www.accelerationtimes.com/models/honda_s2000)
slightly faster my clit >:(
ok I'll increase the pressure ;D
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I tell ya what boys... you better sort this argument out quickly... I pick up a 3L engine tomorrow!!!!! >:( >:( >:( >:(
;D ;D ;D ;D
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I tell ya what boys... you better sort this argument out quickly... I pick up a 3L engine tomorrow!!!!! >:( >:( >:( >:(
;D ;D ;D ;D
You picked the best then :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P ;)
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An mx5 or an S 2000 would piss all over any two ton barge I know of. ;D
definitely
http://www.accelerationtimes.com/models/honda_s2000 (http://www.accelerationtimes.com/models/honda_s2000)
slightly faster my clit >:(
ok I'll increase the pressure ;D
So, as suspected, according to that, the S2000 must be quick, as the times posted there are the same as a Suzuki Hayabusa, a Bugatti Veyron and a Koenigsegg. That's impressive. :y
What a bunch of dreamers. ::)
Anyway, stop hijacking Broomies thread while he's having a pop at TB. ;) ;) ;D :y
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What? Nothing at all to do with TB. Nooooooo nothing at all. :)
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Whowhatwherewhywhen ???
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What? Nothing at all to do with TB. Nooooooo nothing at all. :)
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Anyway, stop hijacking Broomies thread while he's having a pop at TB. ;) ;) ;D :y
I did try to get it back on track........ but couldn't resist adding a snipe. ;) ;D
Anyway, this TB fella, is he the one who says his 3.0 is far superior but ALWAYS turns up at meets in the 3.2, is that the fella you're on about. He is secretly proud of the 3.2 but too shy to admit it. :y
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Why does everyone think this thread is about TB? ;D
He surely can't be the only person in the world that thinks a Focus will kill you if it's shown a corner, or that a larger, more powerful, easier to work on, better engine is absolute shite and the almost identical, yet smaller, less powerful, more difficult to work on engine is the work of Gods? ::)
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Why does everyone think this thread is about TB? ;D
He surely can't be the only person in the world that thinks a Focus will kill you if it's shown a corner, or that a larger, more powerful, easier to work on, better engine is absolute shite and the almost identical, yet smaller, less powerful, more difficult to work on engine is the work of Gods? ::)
Oh... You mean that other Northamptonshire resident with a 3.0 MV6 :D
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Oi >:( >:( :D
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The rusty one?
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The rusty one?
Aye that's the one :y
They might all start silver, but they all end up golden brown :D
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The rusty one?
Aye that's the one :y
They might all start silver, but they all end up golden brown :D
Its not been washed for a month so im not sure what colour it is ;D
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The rusty one?
Aye that's the one :y
They might all start silver, but they all end up golden brown :D
Its not been washed for a month so im not sure what colour it is ;D
I hope we're talking about your car.... :-X ;D
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The rusty one?
Aye that's the one :y
They might all start silver, but they all end up golden brown :D
Its not been washed for a month so im not sure what colour it is ;D
I hope we're talking about your car.... :-X ;D
:D :D :D ;D Mite wash it tomorrow if the eastern Europeans are free :-\
They have a great system , have 4 washes get 5th one free + a smelly tree free every wash :D
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The rusty one?
Aye that's the one :y
They might all start silver, but they all end up golden brown :D
Its not been washed for a month so im not sure what colour it is ;D
I hope we're talking about your car.... :-X ;D
:D :D :D ;D Mite wash it tomorrow if the eastern Europeans are free :-\
They have a great system , have 4 washes get 5th one free + a smelly tree free every wash :D
I'm gonna complain. Ours is eight washes then one free. Bastards.
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But, TBH, I couldn't take the free one. They are going at it hammer and tongs for about eight hours. They rush around, a sponge in each hand, and do a really good job. They are also cheerful and polite. Just like the local English lads would be, I'm sure ::)
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But, TBH, I couldn't take the free one. They are going at it hammer and tongs for about eight hours. They rush around, a sponge in each hand, and do a really good job. They are also cheerful and polite. Just like the local English lads would be, I'm sure ::)
They charge 3.99 but i always give them a fiver , so my fifth one aint free really ;D Still they do a great job and always friendly :y
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But, TBH, I couldn't take the free one. They are going at it hammer and tongs for about eight hours. They rush around, a sponge in each hand, and do a really good job. They are also cheerful and polite. Just like the local English lads would be, I'm sure ::)
They charge 3.99 but i always give them a fiver , so my fifth one aint free really ;D Still they do a great job and always friendly :y
GRRRRRRRR.......this gets worse. A fiver and I give them six!
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But, TBH, I couldn't take the free one. They are going at it hammer and tongs for about eight hours. They rush around, a sponge in each hand, and do a really good job. They are also cheerful and polite. Just like the local English lads would be, I'm sure ::)
They charge 3.99 but i always give them a fiver , so my fifth one aint free really ;D Still they do a great job and always friendly :y
GRRRRRRRR.......this gets worse. A fiver and I give them six!
I had one done today, charge a fiver, gave them seven..... ;) and one of the 3 lads working today was a white lad............... :y :y
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But, TBH, I couldn't take the free one. They are going at it hammer and tongs for about eight hours. They rush around, a sponge in each hand, and do a really good job. They are also cheerful and polite. Just like the local English lads would be, I'm sure ::)
They charge 3.99 but i always give them a fiver , so my fifth one aint free really ;D Still they do a great job and always friendly :y
GRRRRRRRR.......this gets worse. A fiver and I give them six!
I had one done today, charge a fiver, gave them seven..... ;) and one of the 3 lads working today was a white lad............... :y :y
Bet he wasn't when he climbed out from underneath that intercontinental truck.
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But, TBH, I couldn't take the free one. They are going at it hammer and tongs for about eight hours. They rush around, a sponge in each hand, and do a really good job. They are also cheerful and polite. Just like the local English lads would be, I'm sure ::)
They charge 3.99 but i always give them a fiver , so my fifth one aint free really ;D Still they do a great job and always friendly :y
GRRRRRRRR.......this gets worse. A fiver and I give them six!
I had one done today, charge a fiver, gave them seven..... ;) and one of the 3 lads working today was a white lad............... :y :y
Bet he wasn't when he climbed out from underneath that intercontinental truck.
He was a local lad......... :D :D