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Title: The ever-rising age of first time home owners.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 15 December 2014, 13:09:57
Apparently in 2014 the average first time buyer is 35 years old. This is unsurprising with the 'average home' costing roughly 7 times the 'average wage'

In 1964 the average first time buyer was just 23.  The 'average home' costing just 2.4 times the 'average wage'.

Figures from Google.


For ordinary people of all ages living on Planet London......forget it. ;D

 
Title: Re: The ever-rising age of first time home owners.
Post by: Rog on 15 December 2014, 13:36:46


I was about 28 when we jumped on the property ladder. A not too good flat in North London. However we stuck with it and staying in London with the sky high prices has been good for us, with a move to rural Wales. My pension :y

BUT, I really feel sorry for my kids. One in London and another on the South Coast. Can't see them buying anything for some time. Not unless I raid my pension fund to help them out  :(  It niggles me to see them shovelling rental cash into a landlords bank account  >:(



Title: Re: The ever-rising age of first time home owners.
Post by: aaronjb on 15 December 2014, 13:41:41
If you can't beat 'em, join 'em .. I have half an eye out for a reasonably priced rental investment around my neck of the woods.
Title: Re: The ever-rising age of first time home owners.
Post by: Andy B on 15 December 2014, 13:43:00
.... 
It niggles me to see them shovelling rental cash into a landlords bank account  >:(

 ..... likewise  :(
Title: Re: The ever-rising age of first time home owners.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 15 December 2014, 14:26:09
My late father always said that renting was 'dead money'.

We rented for six years and during that time the rent more than doubled.......about 20% P.A an average.

Robbing bastards.... ;D ;D

Title: Re: The ever-rising age of first time home owners.
Post by: omega3000 on 15 December 2014, 15:55:50
Thing is , what they pay out in rent could easily get them a mortgage  ::) I know loads of couples that rent at £800 pm and they can buy a place for £600 pm ... they dont want the commitment of a mortgage  ??? No wonder landlords are raking it in  :o
Title: Re: The ever-rising age of first time home owners.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 15 December 2014, 16:19:31
Thing is , what they pay out in rent could easily get them a mortgage  ::) I know loads of couples that rent at £800 pm and they can buy a place for £600 pm ... they dont want the commitment of a mortgage ??? No wonder landlords are raking it in  :o

I agree, Mr Emd.

Unless you are a saddo who lives with Mummy and Daddy all your life you will have to take the plunge at some point.

The question is which do you prefer?......A millstone around your neck in the form of a mortgage or rent.

A mortgage will work out far cheaper in the medium to long term......just ask 'mortgage fee' Andy B....eanz. ;D


Title: Re: The ever-rising age of first time home owners.
Post by: aaronjb on 15 December 2014, 16:29:53
Much easier to walk away from a rental than a house, though..  I also know plenty of folks in my industry who prefer to rent because that makes it easier to move wherever the work is, relocate between countries or cities etc.
Title: Re: The ever-rising age of first time home owners.
Post by: omega3000 on 15 December 2014, 16:42:18
Much easier to walk away from a rental than a house, though..  I also know plenty of folks in my industry who prefer to rent because that makes it easier to move wherever the work is, relocate between countries or cities etc.

Yep thats been said from those that rent  ;) I remember looking at a 1 bed flat to buy in London 15 years ago and it was £65k then  :o God knows what it is now to buy  ::)
Title: Re: The ever-rising age of first time home owners.
Post by: aaronjb on 15 December 2014, 16:48:46
Much easier to walk away from a rental than a house, though..  I also know plenty of folks in my industry who prefer to rent because that makes it easier to move wherever the work is, relocate between countries or cities etc.

Yep thats been said from those that rent  ;) I remember looking at a 1 bed flat to buy in London 15 years ago and it was £65k then  :o God knows what it is now to buy  ::)

You'd probably be retiring to the countryside on the profit ;)
Title: Re: The ever-rising age of first time home owners.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 15 December 2014, 17:06:07
Much easier to walk away from a rental than a house, though..  I also know plenty of folks in my industry who prefer to rent because that makes it easier to move wherever the work is, relocate between countries or cities etc.

I agree to some extent.....but having sampled both I know which I prefer.
Title: Re: The ever-rising age of first time home owners.
Post by: henryd on 15 December 2014, 18:46:08
Thing is , what they pay out in rent could easily get them a mortgage  ::) I know loads of couples that rent at £800 pm and they can buy a place for £600 pm ... they dont want the commitment of a mortgage  ??? No wonder landlords are raking it in  :o

As you say the monthly payments are'nt a problem as the mortgage will probably cost less per month than rent anyway,its the 30-40k deposit that most lenders want upfront that causes the problem.
Title: Re: The ever-rising age of first time home owners.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 15 December 2014, 21:29:22
Thing is , what they pay out in rent could easily get them a mortgage  ::) I know loads of couples that rent at £800 pm and they can buy a place for £600 pm ... they dont want the commitment of a mortgage  ??? No wonder landlords are raking it in  :o

As you say the monthly payments are'nt a problem as the mortgage will probably cost less per month than rent anyway,its the 30-40k deposit that most lenders want upfront that causes the problem.

When I bought my first house interest rates were set at 15%.

Having just spent almost £5000 on a  brand new Yamaha FJ1200 I plumped for  a 100% mortgage. However, there is no such thing as a free lunch  and the interest rate was raised to 16.5% for the first year.

Try getting a 100% mortgage today. Not possible I think.
Title: Re: The ever-rising age of first time home owners.
Post by: The Sheriff on 15 December 2014, 21:31:48
Thing is , what they pay out in rent could easily get them a mortgage  ::) I know loads of couples that rent at £800 pm and they can buy a place for £600 pm ... they dont want the commitment of a mortgage  ??? No wonder landlords are raking it in  :o

As you say the monthly payments are'nt a problem as the mortgage will probably cost less per month than rent anyway,its the 30-40k deposit that most lenders want upfront that causes the problem.

When I bought my first house interest rates were set at 15%.

Having just spent almost £5000 on a  brand new Yamaha FJ1200 I plumped for  a 100% mortgage. However, there is no such thing as a free lunch  and the interest rate was raised to 16.5% for the first year.

Try getting a 100% mortgage today. Not possible I think.
In the halcyon mid noughties, you could get 120% from those wonderful Northern Rock people.
Title: Re: The ever-rising age of first time home owners.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 15 December 2014, 21:33:45
Thing is , what they pay out in rent could easily get them a mortgage  ::) I know loads of couples that rent at £800 pm and they can buy a place for £600 pm ... they dont want the commitment of a mortgage  ??? No wonder landlords are raking it in  :o

As you say the monthly payments are'nt a problem as the mortgage will probably cost less per month than rent anyway,its the 30-40k deposit that most lenders want upfront that causes the problem.

When I bought my first house interest rates were set at 15%.

Having just spent almost £5000 on a  brand new Yamaha FJ1200 I plumped for  a 100% mortgage. However, there is no such thing as a free lunch  and the interest rate was raised to 16.5% for the first year.

Try getting a 100% mortgage today. Not possible I think.
In the halcyon mid noughties, you could get 120% from those wonderful Northern Rock people.

Yep....and there was often tears before bedtime as a result.... ;D ;D

Title: Re: The ever-rising age of first time home owners.
Post by: The Sheriff on 15 December 2014, 21:37:07
Thing is , what they pay out in rent could easily get them a mortgage  ::) I know loads of couples that rent at £800 pm and they can buy a place for £600 pm ... they dont want the commitment of a mortgage  ??? No wonder landlords are raking it in  :o

As you say the monthly payments are'nt a problem as the mortgage will probably cost less per month than rent anyway,its the 30-40k deposit that most lenders want upfront that causes the problem.

When I bought my first house interest rates were set at 15%.

Having just spent almost £5000 on a  brand new Yamaha FJ1200 I plumped for  a 100% mortgage. However, there is no such thing as a free lunch  and the interest rate was raised to 16.5% for the first year.

Try getting a 100% mortgage today. Not possible I think.
In the halcyon mid noughties, you could get 120% from those wonderful Northern Rock people.

Yep....and there was often tears before bedtime as a result.... ;D ;D
You borrowed 120 grand on Monday, bought a house for 100 grand on Tuesday and sold it for 150 grand on Thursday ;D

Thats if you were lucky, because the following Monday it was only worth 80. ;D
Title: Re: The ever-rising age of first time home owners.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 15 December 2014, 21:40:25
Thing is , what they pay out in rent could easily get them a mortgage  ::) I know loads of couples that rent at £800 pm and they can buy a place for £600 pm ... they dont want the commitment of a mortgage  ??? No wonder landlords are raking it in  :o

As you say the monthly payments are'nt a problem as the mortgage will probably cost less per month than rent anyway,its the 30-40k deposit that most lenders want upfront that causes the problem.

When I bought my first house interest rates were set at 15%.

Having just spent almost £5000 on a  brand new Yamaha FJ1200 I plumped for  a 100% mortgage. However, there is no such thing as a free lunch  and the interest rate was raised to 16.5% for the first year.

Try getting a 100% mortgage today. Not possible I think.
In the halcyon mid noughties, you could get 120% from those wonderful Northern Rock people.

Yep....and there was often tears before bedtime as a result.... ;D ;D
You borrowed 120 grand on Monday, bought a house for 100 grand on Tuesday and sold it for 150 grand on Thursday ;D

Thats if you were lucky, because the following Monday it was only worth 80. ;D

 As you so rightly point out Steve, timing was all important with a 120% mortgage. Get it right and... :y :y :y :y

Fu*k it up and destitution awaits you. :'( :'( :'( :'(