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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: dbr on 12 January 2015, 22:16:55

Title: cam belt
Post by: dbr on 12 January 2015, 22:16:55
Andy c's garage no longer on TC.
Best place now for a new cam belt kit? 2.5 petrol.
Thanks.
Dave
Title: Re: cam belt
Post by: 05omegav6 on 12 January 2015, 22:44:18
Gates or Contitech kit from Buypartsbuy... :y
Title: Re: cam belt
Post by: flyer 0712 on 13 January 2015, 00:10:21
Euro car parts....conti-tech    2.5 timing belt kit  £123.60....reduced to £95.94. :y
Title: Re: cam belt
Post by: dbug on 13 January 2015, 00:34:04
Contitech - https://www.buypartsby.co.uk/details/VAUXHALL/OMEGA/2.5/1997/__/54/CT884K1/timing-belt-kit/ (https://www.buypartsby.co.uk/details/VAUXHALL/OMEGA/2.5/1997/__/54/CT884K1/timing-belt-kit/) ;)
Title: Re: cam belt
Post by: dbr on 13 January 2015, 10:06:19
Thanks folks.
This car now only does about 1000mls per year for the last 3 years, so the present belt / bearings etc has done about 7000mls.
Any thoughts on a belt only or is it still advisable to do the lot. mileage not expected to increase.

Thanks
Dave.
Title: Re: cam belt
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 13 January 2015, 10:46:18
This question/quandary is very close to mine. I've a V6 with a 'new'-ish cambelt on it. It's done maybe 10k since fitting, but is over the specified and recommended 4 years period. I'm doing the cambelt, I'm not taking the risk, but I am intrigued as how a tensioner/pulley etc sitting in a car not moving is in any way wearing more than one sitting on a shelf in a dealer for the same amount of time, if you follow.

On the V6, being their Achilles heel, as I say, I'm not taking the chance, I'm doing it before she is put back on the road. But if this were a Nova or similar we were talking about, and it was over the specified time period, but well within the mileage limit, then I'd be leaving it an taking the gamble.

In your case it must feel bleedin awful spending bigger money like that every 7k miles. This has me wondering now, how, in a few years, when Omegas are bone fide classics, and cars are doing maybe a few hundred miles a year to a few shows and back, people may be spending the potential hundreds of £s on a cambelt job maybe every 1,500-2,000 miles... :-\
Title: Re: cam belt
Post by: Nick W on 13 January 2015, 11:28:12
Thanks folks.
This car now only does about 1000mls per year for the last 3 years, so the present belt / bearings etc has done about 7000mls.
Any thoughts on a belt only or is it still advisable to do the lot. mileage not expected to increase.

Thanks
Dave.

Unless it's drastically overdue on miles, it's usually the tensioner or pulley bearings that fail and take out the belt. Which makes changing just the belt a waste of time and money.

As for not wearing because it hasn't been used, the bearings are still experiencing the belt tension, but only in one place for long periods. This cannot be good for them.

If it were mine, I'd probably risk another year. But I cannot advise that.
Title: Re: cam belt
Post by: Entwood on 13 January 2015, 11:33:06
Thanks folks.
This car now only does about 1000mls per year for the last 3 years, so the present belt / bearings etc has done about 7000mls.
Any thoughts on a belt only or is it still advisable to do the lot. mileage not expected to increase.

Thanks
Dave.

Unless it's drastically overdue on miles, it's usually the tensioner or pulley bearings that fail and take out the belt. Which makes changing just the belt a waste of time and money.

As for not wearing because it hasn't been used, the bearings are still experiencing the belt tension, but only in one place for long periods. This cannot be good for them.

If it were mine, I'd probably risk another year. But I cannot advise that.

Agree with that sentiment, and also wondering if there "might" be a corrosion problem with the bearings causing the time-based failures ?? If the seals are not fantastic they could allow moisture in, the bearings start to corrode and then fail ?? Thus standing or running the problem remains ....  but this is nowt other than guesswork TBH ....  :-\ :-\
Title: Re: cam belt
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 13 January 2015, 11:34:53
Thanks folks.
This car now only does about 1000mls per year for the last 3 years, so the present belt / bearings etc has done about 7000mls.
Any thoughts on a belt only or is it still advisable to do the lot. mileage not expected to increase.

Thanks
Dave.

Unless it's drastically overdue on miles, it's usually the tensioner or pulley bearings that fail and take out the belt. Which makes changing just the belt a waste of time and money.

As for not wearing because it hasn't been used, the bearings are still experiencing the belt tension, but only in one place for long periods. This cannot be good for them.

If it were mine, I'd probably risk another year. But I cannot advise that.

Makes sense, sounds logical.  Also would repeat what Nick W said - belts aren't the issue, in fact will last 80k with no issue. Would gladly just replace the pulley/tensioner on mine but been told on here you can't buy this part alone/not worth it.


EDIT:
Entwood's faster fingers beat me to it!!  :D
Title: Re: cam belt
Post by: dbr on 13 January 2015, 17:32:23
Thanks for the links. £81.02...................£20 a year, I am starting to think, better safe than sorry.
Title: Re: cam belt
Post by: robson on 13 January 2015, 17:41:19
sensible decision :y
Title: Re: cam belt
Post by: omega2018 on 13 January 2015, 19:44:22
my cam belt done last year (thanks james) at 30K miles and 6 years.  james thought the old belt didn't look too bad.  worth doing though and not just for peace of mind as the last garage hadnt got the line up spot on. probably due to their obvious use of tippex instead of a cam locking kit.
Title: Re: cam belt
Post by: 4x4 on 13 January 2015, 20:38:43
Thanks for the links. £81.02...................£20 a year, I am starting to think, better safe than sorry.
Compared to stripping heads,replacing them or reconditioning them,another cambelt and tensioners,loss of car whilst its being repaired its alot cheaper than just buying a cambelt and not the full kit.
Title: Re: cam belt
Post by: Nick W on 13 January 2015, 23:08:19
my cam belt done last year (thanks james) at 30K miles and 6 years.  james thought the old belt didn't look too bad.  worth doing though and not just for peace of mind as the last garage hadnt got the line up spot on. probably due to their obvious use of tippex instead of a cam locking kit.


Mine was the same, tippex everywhere, and a tooth out on all four cams. Funnily enough, the marks all lined up when I timed it properly, which suggests that whoever did it hadn't followed good practice and not even turned it through to ensure that everything was still good.


It ran a lot better afterwards.