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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: PLANETNZ on 31 January 2015, 23:11:45
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Hi Guys,
not really a Omega issue so delete if you have to, but could use your help!
I need to find a source to confirm what Emission standard a particular vehicle is, preferably based on its VIN or more particually that it is at least EURO4
If someone can point me in the right dirrection would be much appretiated!
cheers!
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In the uk we can bung the registration in and all sorts of vehicle detail come up.
Wiki has some detail of engine variants fitted to each country.
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Thanks for that, these are for vehicles I import out of Japan mainly Mercedes Audi etc and where i brought my last Omega from years ago.
Funny enough you can still get them out of Japan, I recently saw a top spec waggon (Estate in UKleese) that had 6000km on it! Shame they dont comply here anymore
The Japs have different "specs" when the dealer / distributor buys vehicles so a European vehicle that is Euro4 in the UK; the exact same vehicle in Japan is (sometimes) classed as Euro3...Confused!?
Im trying to find a decent way of just entering in a VIn and confirming if the vehicle itself complies with Euro4
Cheers!
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Hi Guys,
not really a Omega issue so delete if you have to, but could use your help!
I need to find a source to confirm what Emission standard a particular vehicle is, preferably based on its VIN or more particually that it is at least EURO4
If someone can point me in the right dirrection would be much appretiated!
cheers!
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If it's a facelift model, yours is Euro3. According to Edition 1 2003 UK sales literature, the entire Omega range is Euro3 except the manual 2.2 petrol, and some late registered Police 3.2 manuals.
Gutting the cats will mean your car doesn't have a cat in hells chance of meeting Euro1, let alone 4 :-\
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Reading the NZTA q&a If a vehicle complies with Japan 05, then it will be considered to meet Euro4 standards... Which were implemented in 2005...
Seems pretty clear cut reading it through :y
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Reading the NZTA q&a If a vehicle complies with Japan 05, then it will be considered to meet Euro4 standards... Which were implemented in 2005...
Seems pretty clear cut reading it through :y
ive only been doing this for 20 years, its not quite that simple and the legislation i think you are looking at is about 5 years old
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If it's a facelift model, yours is Euro3. According to Edition 1 2003 UK sales literature, the entire Omega range is Euro3 except the manual 2.2 petrol, and some late registered Police 3.2 manuals.
Gutting the cats will mean your car doesn't have a cat in hells chance of meeting Euro1, let alone 4 :-\
Hi, sorry are you replying to the same post?
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If it's a facelift model, yours is Euro3. According to Edition 1 2003 UK sales literature, the entire Omega range is Euro3 except the manual 2.2 petrol, and some late registered Police 3.2 manuals.
Gutting the cats will mean your car doesn't have a cat in hells chance of meeting Euro1, let alone 4 :-\
Hi, sorry are you replying to the same post?
My bad I was replying to the rear springs question ;D
The above was with regard the Euro emission standard of the Omega range.
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Reading the NZTA q&a If a vehicle complies with Japan 05, then it will be considered to meet Euro4 standards... Which were implemented in 2005...
Seems pretty clear cut reading it through :y
ive only been doing this for 20 years, its not quite that simple and the legislation i think you are looking at is about 5 years old
http://www.transport.govt.nz/ourwork/vehicleemissions/ was the page from which I got to FAQs... think you'll find that it was last updated two weeks ago ::)
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Hi, Thanks for your effort at input (and google) but wasnt actually my question!
Your statement "kinda" relates to European Vehicles exported from Europe to NZ however does not relate to European vehicles, (exactly the same) exported from JAPAN, these are completely different issue!
As you guys may be aware, we down here in NZ import thousands of second hand vehicles from around the world here including the UK.
I myself have imported many caravans Cars and trucks (sorry, lorries!:) from the UK and to the extent of being the first to export a Holden SS Commodore to the UK, (yes the car that looks like an Omega!, but with a 5.0 V8)
For example: (and dont laugh!) I import around a doz or so a year 700cc Smart cars from Japan, they dont legally comply here from Japan BUT they are actually Euro4 so when i buy one (from Japan) I order an emission cert from Germany that is then accepted by our Government and the vehicle can be used here, otherwise its scrap
So thats what i am actually after (again) with your guys knowledge can someone point me onto a source (not Googled) that i can actually confirm that a Euro4 vehicle is actually Euro4!
Cheers!
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Local agents should be able to provide you with European Certificates of Conformity from the chassis number :y
This should include the emission category... but might depend on where the car was manufactured :-\
If main dealers can't/won't help, then there are firms who can...
That said, I think the extra complication is that you're importing European vehicles from Japan rather than Japanese vehicles from Japan, but the way NZTAs emissions guide reads is that this makes no difference as the vehicles effectively need to meet Euro 4/Japan05/ADR79/02 or higher... so the original market requirements should be irrelevant :-\
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Local agents should be able to provide you with European Certificates of Conformity from the chassis number :y
This should include the emission category... but might depend on where the car was manufactured :-\
If main dealers can't/won't help, then there are firms who can...
That said, I think the extra complication is that you're importing European vehicles from Japan rather than Japanese vehicles from Japan, but the way NZTAs emissions guide reads is that this makes no difference as the vehicles effectively need to meet Euro 4/Japan05/ADR79/02 or higher... so the original market requirements should be irrelevant :-\
Mate, again and not being a smart ass with everything you said : AHH NO.
Your just making "Assumptions" without any actual knowledge, please let someone that actually knows and can help reply! (no offense!)
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Local agents should be able to provide you with European Certificates of Conformity from the chassis number :y
This should include the emission category... but might depend on where the car was manufactured :-\
If main dealers can't/won't help, then there are firms who can...
That said, I think the extra complication is that you're importing European vehicles from Japan rather than Japanese vehicles from Japan, but the way NZTAs emissions guide reads is that this makes no difference as the vehicles effectively need to meet Euro 4/Japan05/ADR79/02 or higher... so the original market requirements should be irrelevant :-\
Mate, again and not being a smart ass with everything you said : AHH NO.
Your just making "Assumptions" without any actual knowledge, please let someone that actually knows and can help reply! (no offense!)
Not wishing to be rude, but if you have already imported all the vehicles that you say you have, you must already be in the know of the people to ask over there, who will know
the details you are after, especially as it looks like NZ changes the standard when imported.
To me, Taxi Al seems to have given the answers to your question, maybe it wasn't quite the right question, or put to the wrong forum, especial as it nothing to do with an Omega.
If you try using Google instead of knocking it, you will probable get the answer you want. Most government departments can be accessed via Google, for up to date information.
Hope you find what your looking for.
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I apologise, this is definitely the wrong forum to be asking this question.
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Does the JEVIC test not include an emissions test that would prove it complies to Euro4 standards? :-\
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When you're talking the finer points of emissions compliance, a test doesn't verify compliance - only that something basic hasn't gone wrong such as a failed cat or lambda sensor. You probably need a declaration from the manufacturer, hence the OP's question, as strict compliance will have been tested only at the development stage.
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When you're talking the finer points of emissions compliance, a test doesn't verify compliance - only that something basic hasn't gone wrong such as a failed cat or lambda sensor. You probably need a declaration from the manufacturer, hence the OP's question, as strict compliance will have been tested only at the development stage.
Righto. Thanks Kevin. :y
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Does the JEVIC test not include an emissions test that would prove it complies to Euro4 standards? :-\
Yes and No!lol because of Japans own legislation and ways of doing things a vehicle that actually complies with EURO4 in the Europe (from 2005-08) quite often doesnt in Japan until years later, yes its a bit confusing!
I sometimes get two identical vehicles come up where one "technically" complies the other doesnt. The vehicle that does technically comply here doesnt need any further paperwork to comply it here the other needs a Emission Cert which I buy direct from Germany however I cant buy these untill the vehcile is on the Ship and paid for! If for some reason i cant get the Emission cert its scarp!
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When you're talking the finer points of emissions compliance, a test doesn't verify compliance - only that something basic hasn't gone wrong such as a failed cat or lambda sensor. You probably need a declaration from the manufacturer, hence the OP's question, as strict compliance will have been tested only at the development stage.
..and thats sort of the issue we have here or at least i do!
Here in NZ we dont have regular Emission testing like you guys, ours is only a paperwork exercise when the vehicle is Imported and complied when its first put on the road. This is how we can remove our Cats without problem:)
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Reading the NZTA q&a If a vehicle complies with Japan 05, then it will be considered to meet Euro4 standards... Which were implemented in 2005...
Seems pretty clear cut reading it through :y
Hi not being a smart ass but you need to read more than the first 4 words you googled and my actual question from the beginning. from the same page this might give a bit more information,
The Japs Code their emissions on a 2-3 didget system. ANYTHING with a 2 didget Emission code (IE: GH) cannot cannot be imported here...even though in Europe the vehicle might be Euro4 any actually comply UNLESS I prove it is IE by buying the emission cert ex Germany. the process is very hit and miss and i have been lucky ...so far
So going back to my origional question, since you guys are "over there" and im at the other end of the planet,, does someone have a contact or a site where I can send a VIN number and I can be told yes or no that it complies to Euro4?! Cheers boys!
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What I posted was actually taken from NZTAs own FAQs page wrt emissions standards concerning vehicle imports to NZ, via Google ::)
http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=nzta%20emission%20standards%20faq&source=web&cd=9&ved=0CDQQFjAI&url=http%3A%2F%2Fvehicleinspection.nzta.govt.nz%2F__data%2Fassets%2Fpdf_file%2F0020%2F40871%2FTB-28-Exhaust-emissions-stnd-requirements.pdf&ei=U33QVOyADIHvUJuthMAG&usg=AFQjCNHX2e_97uSYvtWzRri37gLVukBzwQ&bvm=bv.85076809,d.d24
Pretty clear cut... even I can read it ::) correct as of June 2013 :y
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What I posted was actually taken from NZTAs own FAQs page wrt emissions standards concerning vehicle imports to NZ, via Google ::)
http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=nzta%20emission%20standards%20faq&source=web&cd=9&ved=0CDQQFjAI&url=http%3A%2F%2Fvehicleinspection.nzta.govt.nz%2F__data%2Fassets%2Fpdf_file%2F0020%2F40871%2FTB-28-Exhaust-emissions-stnd-requirements.pdf&ei=U33QVOyADIHvUJuthMAG&usg=AFQjCNHX2e_97uSYvtWzRri37gLVukBzwQ&bvm=bv.85076809,d.d24
Pretty clear cut... even I can read it ::) correct as of June 2013 :y
And Again.. these are vehicles from JAPAN not Europe as you have highlighted, please read the question first
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What I posted was actually taken from NZTAs own FAQs page wrt emissions standards concerning vehicle imports to NZ, via Google ::)
http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=nzta%20emission%20standards%20faq&source=web&cd=9&ved=0CDQQFjAI&url=http%3A%2F%2Fvehicleinspection.nzta.govt.nz%2F__data%2Fassets%2Fpdf_file%2F0020%2F40871%2FTB-28-Exhaust-emissions-stnd-requirements.pdf&ei=U33QVOyADIHvUJuthMAG&usg=AFQjCNHX2e_97uSYvtWzRri37gLVukBzwQ&bvm=bv.85076809,d.d24
Pretty clear cut... even I can read it ::) correct as of June 2013 :y
And Again.. these are vehicles from JAPAN not Europe as you have highlighted, please read the question first
Anything Euro 4/5/6 or market equivalent... again any Mercedes/BMW/VAG dealer in NZ will be able to access the build data through their systems and confirm or deny Euro status ::) Basically, anything built after 2007 ::)
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Mate your answering questions that havnt even been asked; (and even then getting it completely wrong)
No offense "Taxi al" but you have no idea what you are talking about, please just leave it at that and let someone who actually does know reply; and please stop hijacking my post.
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Actually I did answer your original question, which was, unless I misread it, "Does any one know of a reliable way to ascertain the emission standard of any given car using the VIN...".
To which the answer was using the factory database via the relevant main dealer...
Everything else came from the NZTA website. But hey, what do they know ::)
Ps if I actually wanted to hijack the thread I would ask about whether you use winter tyres on the North Island...
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Not exactly helpfull as "The Dealers" here charge at least $1100.00 (600GPB) for EACH report and it takes about 3 weeks for the result... so with the amount of vehicles i look at in Auction in Japan each week this would cost me over $100000.00 a week and about 500 hrs to late so the very simple question of
"does someone here know of an on-line Vin De-coader or Site where when de-coaded will confirm or not an engine is compliant to at least Euro4 remains unanswered.
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Thought you said you had been doing this 20 years