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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: hawke113a on 01 February 2015, 16:10:39
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well me and my brother are planning driving to malaga from leeds......should be fun....getting the chunnel over to froggy land then driving thru france and spain.....just been looking....frogot about the tolls and the other things that are compulsary to have in the car....the tolls are gonna cost about 200 euro altogether....better get saving.... ;D :y
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Not in an omega? No..of course not....silly me for even thinking that..... ;D
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oh yes lol...just having the engine split and rebuilt....and i will have breakdown cover haha...and my trusty tool box with me too...
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well me and my brother are planning driving to malaga from leeds......should be fun....getting the chunnel over to froggy land then driving thru france and spain.....just been looking....frogot about the tolls and the other things that are compulsary to have in the car....the tolls are gonna cost about 200 euro altogether....better get saving.... ;D :y
am doing it meself the other way round this week .
done it about a dozen times now.
and going no tolls takes the same time as with tolls!! anywhere between 23 and 25hours non stop :y
check out newhaven to dieppe, its 39quid much better then the tunnel or dover ferry!
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its about 65 quid return on ferry...so might be doing that instead of the tunnel
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yup more money saved on ferries and tolls the more you have for important things like drinking and eating! Im about 40mins from malaga,
dont like the place though lol, we are out in the campo where its lovely and truely spanish unlike malaga,
if you go calais go eo5 to rouen, then bordeaux then san sebastion, then burgo then madrid then granada then malaga, this missies the fetid hole that is paris! :y
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yup more money saved on ferries and tolls the more you have for important things like fuel. Im about 40mins from malaga,
dont like the place though lol, we are out in the campo where its lovely and truely spanish unlike malaga,
if you go calais go eo5 to rouen, then bordeaux then san sebastion, then burgo then madrid then granada then malaga, this missies the fetid hole that is paris! :y
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I have always liked taking the ferry to Santander, then near enough a straight run down... Have a great and safe journey and break..
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Sounds good when are you doing this trip?
Camping? Hotels?
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yup more money saved on ferries and tolls the more you have for important things like fuel. Im about 40mins from malaga,
dont like the place though lol, we are out in the campo where its lovely and truely spanish unlike malaga,
if you go calais go eo5 to rouen, then bordeaux then san sebastion, then burgo then madrid then granada then malaga, this missies the fetid hole that is paris! :y
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lol well off toll the price is about 25cent cheaper than on it! rip off bastards the french! that why the only tol i do is from rouen to calais after filling up on the n10 where its very cheap! lol
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thinking about oct....my mum lives in torre del mar in malaga....so hotel not needed...more money for beer.....and tolls lol
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its about 65 quid return on ferry...so might be doing that instead of the tunnel
I'm off to France again in March. My parents have had a property near Cognac for 25 years, and we're going to visit my aunt who lives near Mont de Marsan close to the Spanish border.
My experience of using the tunnel is that it always costs double what the ferry does, and you might save 45minutes. If you've come from Leeds, then you're probably going to want a bit of a break and some food, which you can do on the ferry, and that easily gives you the time back. I live 45minutes from both Dover and Folkestone, and can time my arrival at Dover so that we normally drive straight onto the boat. Breakfast and a couple of coffees mean I don't need to stop for lunch, which means even more time I claw back.
As for the tolls, if you want to meander through France as part of your holiday, then avoid them and have fun. It's a beautiful country. But if you actually want to get to Spain(or indeed anywhere specific), then you'll save time and money blatting down the motorway. I can do the 725miles from my aunt's house to Calais in ten hours on the motorway; I know friends who can't get to our house in that time as they insist on not paying the tolls As they're a rip-off. I suspect that you'll easily spend the amount you 'saved' on extra fuel, food and farting about. It's also next to impossible to get lost on the motorway; that isn't the case in rural France!
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thinking about oct....my mum lives in torre del mar in malaga....so hotel not needed...more money for beer.....and tolls lol
lol she does? Torre del mar is in malaga province but not Malaga! its 35 mins down the road from me!!
im up just past Lake Vinuela!!
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its about 65 quid return on ferry...so might be doing that instead of the tunnel
I'm off to France again in March. My parents have had a property near Cognac for 25 years, and we're going to visit my aunt who lives near Mont de Marsan close to the Spanish border.
My experience of using the tunnel is that it always costs double what the ferry does, and you might save 45minutes. If you've come from Leeds, then you're probably going to want a bit of a break and some food, which you can do on the ferry, and that easily gives you the time back. I live 45minutes from both Dover and Folkestone, and can time my arrival at Dover so that we normally drive straight onto the boat. Breakfast and a couple of coffees mean I don't need to stop for lunch, which means even more time I claw back.
As for the tolls, if you want to meander through France as part of your holiday, then avoid them and have fun. It's a beautiful country. But if you actually want to get to Spain(or indeed anywhere specific), then you'll save time and money blatting down the motorway. I can do the 725miles from my aunt's house to Calais in ten hours on the motorway; I know friends who can't get to our house in that time as they insist on not paying the tolls As they're a rip-off. I suspect that you'll easily spend the amount you 'saved' on extra fuel, food and farting about. It's also next to impossible to get lost on the motorway; that isn't the case in rural France!
lol agree with all that except, sat nav does not get lost,and if going to calais I allow the toll from rouen to calais as its only 13 euro,the rest i have to admit is just blatting down though country roads in rural france,but here is the thing done tolls 3 times,all the rest have been no tolls apart from the aforementioned, and it takes the same amount of time to malaga,part of the reason i think is the blasted queue,s at the tolls when you have to stop get out walk round to pay then get back n,average time at a tol both including quing for me is around 7 or 8 mins,add that up over 1500 mles of driving at about 1 an hour and it soon takes up the time,hence go no tolls,much less stress,easier to stop anywhere, cheaper fuel,better views and you have to concentrate on the road rather than drone on and on on the toll roads
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I used to be very pro-tunnel. But you have to be aware they can invalidate your ticket on a whim (and if its a return ticket, that means you are force to pay nearly £200 to get home). Best avoided at all costs.
A longer ferry, say Plymouth-Caen, allows a bit of a relax, even a kip, after the 4-5hr trip from Leeds, and gets you a bit nearer. Best of all, it avoids Calais ;D
I've taken my Omegas over there several times, and its going again in June.
Having suffered a failed crank sensor in France, and the car being delivered back to Blighty several days after I got home, I'd recommend all V6 owners take one ;D.
Don't treat the toll roads like German Autobahns. The local authorities take a dim view, and Brits are easy targets. Off the tolls, the limits are lower (normally 90k, motorways/tolls are 130k in dry, 110k in wet) but you get to see more.
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I used to be very pro-tunnel. But you have to be aware they can invalidate your ticket on a whim (and if its a return ticket, that means you are force to pay nearly £200 to get home). Best avoided at all costs.
A longer ferry, say Plymouth-Caen, allows a bit of a relax, even a kip, after the 4-5hr trip from Leeds, and gets you a bit nearer. Best of all, it avoids Calais ;D
I've taken my Omegas over there several times, and its going again in June.
Having suffered a failed crank sensor in France, and the car being delivered back to Blighty several days after I got home, I'd recommend all V6 owners take one ;D.
Don't treat the toll roads like German Autobahns. The local authorities take a dim view, and Brits are easy targets. Off the tolls, the limits are lower (normally 90k, motorways/tolls are 130k in dry, 110k in wet) but you get to see more.
Thats why i done that thread "Do I Need To Load The Gun" nagging on about crank sensors.im off to frog land end of may and dont wanna end up in trouble. so gonna get new one
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right so ill have a new crank sensor fitted before i go...and take a spare with me just in case lol
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For the last few years I have had one of the Liber-t telepeage gadgets. Great for tolls just drive through slowly, beeps, and your off.
Saves time and if night driving no need to wake up passenger to collect tickets or pay.
Charges come through on credit card so a card that does not charge for euro conversion (eg Post Office) helps
I have an APRR one who will send to UK
Link to online application https://www.telepeagepourtous.fr/fr/particulier/souscrire (https://www.telepeagepourtous.fr/fr/particulier/souscrire) if your interested. Its in french but easy to decipher (or google translate) 10 euro deposit for the gadget
HTH
Phil
p.s. the charges for last year was £160 for trip to St Tropez area (and back)
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For the last few years I have had one of the Liber-t telepeage gadgets. Great for tolls just drive through slowly, beeps, and your off.
Saves time and if night driving no need to wake up passenger to collect tickets or pay.
Charges come through on credit card so a card that does not charge for euro conversion (eg Post Office) helps
I have an APRR one who will send to UK
Link to online application https://www.telepeagepourtous.fr/fr/particulier/souscrire (https://www.telepeagepourtous.fr/fr/particulier/souscrire) if your interested. Its in french but easy to decipher (or google translate) 10 euro deposit for the gadget
HTH
Phil
p.s. the charges for last year was £160 for trip to St Tropez area (and back)
did you do it in a omega :y
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For the last few years I have had one of the Liber-t telepeage gadgets. Great for tolls just drive through slowly, beeps, and your off.
Saves time and if night driving no need to wake up passenger to collect tickets or pay.
Charges come through on credit card so a card that does not charge for euro conversion (eg Post Office) helps
I have an APRR one who will send to UK
Link to online application https://www.telepeagepourtous.fr/fr/particulier/souscrire (https://www.telepeagepourtous.fr/fr/particulier/souscrire) if your interested. Its in french but easy to decipher (or google translate) 10 euro deposit for the gadget
HTH
Phil
p.s. the charges for last year was £160 for trip to St Tropez area (and back)
did you do it in a omega :y
Current Omega for the last 4 yrs, previous Omega for 4yrs before that. Perfect cars for the job :y 8)
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right so ill have a new crank sensor fitted before i go...and take a spare with me just in case lol
And be aware that you cannot do any repairs on motorways (understandably) and your breakdown cover cannot recover you from a motorway. You have to use the SOS boxes and call the local police/highway peeps and try to explain that mon voiture est kaput. They will then arrange a local repair person to tow you off, when your recovery company can take over.
And, yes, recovery is a worthwhile expense. Just the tow off the motorway was over €140, and that was 10 years ago. Christ knows how much repatriation cost. Not to mention hire cars, and my missed ferry and hotel costs :o
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As mentioned earlier if you're not in a rush stay off the motorways and use the 'A' and 'B' roads. You'll find some great lunch spots, camp sites and/or local hotels/guest houses. :y
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As mentioned earlier if you're not in a rush stay off the motorways and use the 'A' and 'B' roads. You'll find some great lunch spots, camp sites and/or local hotels/guest houses. :y
Absolutely, its a lovely place. Ignoring Calais and surrounding area. I always get on the tolls ASAP to get as much distance from there as possible ;D
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As mentioned earlier if you're not in a rush stay off the motorways and use the 'A' and 'B' roads. You'll find some great lunch spots, camp sites and/or local hotels/guest houses. :y
Absolutely, its a lovely place. Ignoring Calais and surrounding area. I always get on the tolls ASAP to get as much distance from there as possible ;D
..and Rouen. Sodding place. Never been there without getting properly (as in 1/2 a day gone) lost. >:(
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As mentioned earlier if you're not in a rush stay off the motorways and use the 'A' and 'B' roads. You'll find some great lunch spots, camp sites and/or local hotels/guest houses. :y
Absolutely, its a lovely place. Ignoring Calais and surrounding area. I always get on the tolls ASAP to get as much distance from there as possible ;D
..and Rouen. Sodding place. Never been there without getting properly (as in 1/2 a day gone) lost. >:(
And TomTom, being the useless PoS that it is, always takes you through the middle.
Last year a colleague got his camper wagon stuck in a low tunnel there ;D
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As mentioned earlier if you're not in a rush stay off the motorways and use the 'A' and 'B' roads. You'll find some great lunch spots, camp sites and/or local hotels/guest houses. :y
Absolutely, its a lovely place. Ignoring Calais and surrounding area. I always get on the tolls ASAP to get as much distance from there as possible ;D
..and Rouen. Sodding place. Never been there without getting properly (as in 1/2 a day gone) lost. >:(
Yep, I am with you there. Ended up having to stay in a hotel there.
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As mentioned earlier if you're not in a rush stay off the motorways and use the 'A' and 'B' roads. You'll find some great lunch spots, camp sites and/or local hotels/guest houses. :y
Absolutely, its a lovely place. Ignoring Calais and surrounding area. I always get on the tolls ASAP to get as much distance from there as possible ;D
..and Rouen. Sodding place. Never been there without getting properly (as in 1/2 a day gone) lost. >:(
And TomTom, being the useless PoS that it is, always takes you through the middle.
Last year a colleague got his camper wagon stuck in a low tunnel there ;D
Through the middle is the route. Through the tunnel, follow the signs, over the bridge and along the river. It isn't normally too bad, takes about 30minutes to rejoin the motorway. Just for the last two years has required a grotty detour due to some serious roadworks. It is a long way around though, and quite badly signposted, which is a French speciality like smelly cheese.
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As mentioned earlier if you're not in a rush stay off the motorways and use the 'A' and 'B' roads. You'll find some great lunch spots, camp sites and/or local hotels/guest houses. :y
Absolutely, its a lovely place. Ignoring Calais and surrounding area. I always get on the tolls ASAP to get as much distance from there as possible ;D
..and Rouen. Sodding place. Never been there without getting properly (as in 1/2 a day gone) lost. >:(
And TomTom, being the useless PoS that it is, always takes you through the middle.
Last year a colleague got his camper wagon stuck in a low tunnel there ;D
Well...it's gonna take you that way, if that's the shortest/quickest route, or unles you tell it not to. If I think I'm gonna be in trouble with the route it's taking me, I just head off in a different direction until it finds another route.
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As mentioned earlier if you're not in a rush stay off the motorways and use the 'A' and 'B' roads. You'll find some great lunch spots, camp sites and/or local hotels/guest houses. :y
Absolutely, its a lovely place. Ignoring Calais and surrounding area. I always get on the tolls ASAP to get as much distance from there as possible ;D
..and Rouen. Sodding place. Never been there without getting properly (as in 1/2 a day gone) lost. >:(
And TomTom, being the useless PoS that it is, always takes you through the middle.
Last year a colleague got his camper wagon stuck in a low tunnel there ;D
Well...it's gonna take you that way, if that's the shortest/quickest route, or unles you tell it not to. If I think I'm gonna be in trouble with the route it's taking me, I just head off in a different direction until it finds another route.
Why use TomTom, as it sucks anyway.
But when in a convoy, we all agree to use same satnav, and implicitly follow to the point you can't, then wait for anyone to catch up and then come up with a new plan.
That way nobody gets lost... ...in theory!
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That way nobody gets lost... ...in theory!
And, yes, I have spent over 2 hours driving around SW France looking for a Silver Morgan that we lost ;D
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As mentioned earlier if you're not in a rush stay off the motorways and use the 'A' and 'B' roads. You'll find some great lunch spots, camp sites and/or local hotels/guest houses. :y
Absolutely, its a lovely place. Ignoring Calais and surrounding area. I always get on the tolls ASAP to get as much distance from there as possible ;D
..and Rouen. Sodding place. Never been there without getting properly (as in 1/2 a day gone) lost. >:(
And TomTom, being the useless PoS that it is, always takes you through the middle.
Last year a colleague got his camper wagon stuck in a low tunnel there ;D
Well...it's gonna take you that way, if that's the shortest/quickest route, or unles you tell it not to. If I think I'm gonna be in trouble with the route it's taking me, I just head off in a different direction until it finds another route.
Why use TomTom, as it sucks anyway.
But when in a convoy, we all agree to use same satnav, and implicitly follow to the point you can't, then wait for anyone to catch up and then come up with a new plan.
That way nobody gets lost... ...in theory!
I don't use my TT anymore, google maps on my iphone is the way :y
Been using it for over a year now, and learnt to trust it for the fastest route :y
When you start the route if it says arrival time is ie 9.58, you arrive there at 9.58. ok it does change the arrival time on route sometimes, but not often :y
Only downside ive found is, its needs a data connection going continually, so if your in the sticks and loose data connection, your fubared !
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As mentioned earlier if you're not in a rush stay off the motorways and use the 'A' and 'B' roads. You'll find some great lunch spots, camp sites and/or local hotels/guest houses. :y
Absolutely, its a lovely place. Ignoring Calais and surrounding area. I always get on the tolls ASAP to get as much distance from there as possible ;D
..and Rouen. Sodding place. Never been there without getting properly (as in 1/2 a day gone) lost. >:(
And TomTom, being the useless PoS that it is, always takes you through the middle.
Last year a colleague got his camper wagon stuck in a low tunnel there ;D
Well...it's gonna take you that way, if that's the shortest/quickest route, or unles you tell it not to. If I think I'm gonna be in trouble with the route it's taking me, I just head off in a different direction until it finds another route.
Why use TomTom, as it sucks anyway.
But when in a convoy, we all agree to use same satnav, and implicitly follow to the point you can't, then wait for anyone to catch up and then come up with a new plan.
That way nobody gets lost... ...in theory!
I don't use my TT anymore, google maps on my iphone is the way :y
Been using it for over a year now, and learnt to trust it for the fastest route :y
When you start the route if it says arrival time is ie 9.58, you arrive there at 9.58. ok it does change the arrival time on route sometimes, but not often :y
Only downside ive found is, its needs a data connection going continually, so if your in the sticks and loose data connection, your fubared !
Bit expensive in euroland TD ;)
In UK, I use cars built in unit.
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In UK, I use cars built in unit.
As I do in euroland, if not in a planned convoy
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hhmmm starting to think ill fly....with all the crap that comes with a holiday....tolls,stuff you need in ya car(cos the frogs are pratts)breakdown cover...and it is a bloody long way
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Driving is a much nicer way of getting there though, unless you can afford a private jet ;)
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Driving is a much nicer way of getting there though
I concur. And to the South of France, probably quicker. And you have a decent car to use whilst there.
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hhmmm starting to think ill fly....with all the crap that comes with a holiday....tolls,stuff you need in ya car(cos the frogs are pratts)breakdown cover...and it is a bloody long way
What are you a man or a mouse? Both Omegatoy and myself have driven it in less than 24 hours on a number of occasions.
Omega a lovely comfortable mile muncher. Have a break somewhere like Bordeaux. Stay in a Formula1 hotel . Have a meal and some beers and Pierre is your oncle. Arrive nice and refreshed . Loads of nice places to have a break and a wander around on the way. What you will find is driving is a real joy the minute you leave British soil.
I am preparing contingency plans to drive on my own in my 4x4 bus to Scotland if things don't work out with the aunt now she is back home.
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We did the south of Italy in my old Omega... We drove Dunkirk to near Milan day 1 (thanks to Jim again for putting us up for a night in each direction) and then down to the villa in Ostuni.
We had friends who couldn't spare the additional 4-5 days to drive both ways so flew and hired a car... We arrived fresher and, ironically, cheaper than they did!!!!! Although that was par.tly down to LPG prices too. And the ironic thing was that the entire time we were there they left their hire car parked outside the villa and we used my car because it was so much more comfortable!
Drive man, drive!!!
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lol I leave tomorrow morning 15miles from torre del mar,
if i dont get held up with the snow and freezing conditions expect to be in dieppe port for the ferry on following morning,wont be using toll roads, however weather is a big factor at this time of year,
october? you will breeze it mate,my way?
get one ferry at around 5pm drive through france at night,following morning you are at the border with spain,pull over for a coule hours warm kip,
crack on and in torre for beer at 8pm!
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omegatoy send me the route you use and ill have a looksie..... :y