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Title: So, What do we think this one is worth?
Post by: Vamps on 09 February 2015, 19:43:56
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2000-VAUXHALL-OMEGA-MV6-3-0-V6-AUTO-Gold-/321662828543?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item4ae4993fff
Title: Re: So, What do we think this one is worth?
Post by: aaronjb on 09 February 2015, 19:49:57
£7-800?

I just sold mine for £400 with £200 worth of spares in the boot..
Title: Re: So, What do we think this one is worth?
Post by: The Sheriff on 09 February 2015, 19:57:29
He's got another car for sale, that fella. Summer is coming....... ::)
Title: Re: So, What do we think this one is worth?
Post by: Vamps on 09 February 2015, 20:02:16
He's got another car for sale, that fella. Summer is coming....... ::)

She would kill me................ :( :( :(
Title: Re: So, What do we think this one is worth?
Post by: The Sheriff on 09 February 2015, 20:10:26
I've been looking at this one

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201502070772300/sort/atcustom/page/1/make/vauxhall/postcode/s727na/onesearchad/used/usedcars/model/omega/quicksearch/true/body-type/estate/radius/60?logcode=p
Title: Re: So, What do we think this one is worth?
Post by: Vamps on 09 February 2015, 20:29:43
I've been looking at this one

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201502070772300/sort/atcustom/page/1/make/vauxhall/postcode/s727na/onesearchad/used/usedcars/model/omega/quicksearch/true/body-type/estate/radius/60?logcode=p

You seriously thinking of getting another Mig, or just bored......... :D :D Where is that one at? seems a different style of layout and does not show location, or I ave missed it..... ::) ::)
Title: Re: So, What do we think this one is worth?
Post by: The Sheriff on 09 February 2015, 20:32:41
I've been looking at this one

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201502070772300/sort/atcustom/page/1/make/vauxhall/postcode/s727na/onesearchad/used/usedcars/model/omega/quicksearch/true/body-type/estate/radius/60?logcode=p

You seriously thinking of getting another Mig, or just bored......... :D :D Where is that one at? seems a different style of layout and does not show location, or I ave missed it..... ::) ::)
It's a secret part of the site reserved for a select few.
Title: Re: So, What do we think this one is worth?
Post by: aaronjb on 09 February 2015, 20:38:24
He's got another car for sale, that fella. Summer is coming....... ::)

It's a shame the Dutton is, erm, monstrously ugly.. Live rear axle too I think, I bet it's interesting with the RV8!
Title: Re: So, What do we think this one is worth?
Post by: Vamps on 09 February 2015, 20:49:15
He's got another car for sale, that fella. Summer is coming....... ::)

It's a shame the Dutton is, erm, monstrously ugly.. Live rear axle too I think, I bet it's interesting with the RV8!

I think 'Interesting' is an understatement............ :D :D
Title: Re: So, What do we think this one is worth?
Post by: Vamps on 09 February 2015, 20:52:41
I've been looking at this one

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201502070772300/sort/atcustom/page/1/make/vauxhall/postcode/s727na/onesearchad/used/usedcars/model/omega/quicksearch/true/body-type/estate/radius/60?logcode=p

You seriously thinking of getting another Mig, or just bored......... :D :D Where is that one at? seems a different style of layout and does not show location, or I ave missed it..... ::) ::)
It's a secret part of the site reserved for a select few.

Well it's 47 miles from Grimethorpe, I mean Grimethorpe, who lives in a place called Grimethorpe........... :D :D :D :D :D :D :-X
Title: Re: So, What do we think this one is worth?
Post by: The Sheriff on 09 February 2015, 20:53:36
I've been looking at this one

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201502070772300/sort/atcustom/page/1/make/vauxhall/postcode/s727na/onesearchad/used/usedcars/model/omega/quicksearch/true/body-type/estate/radius/60?logcode=p

You seriously thinking of getting another Mig, or just bored......... :D :D Where is that one at? seems a different style of layout and does not show location, or I ave missed it..... ::) ::)
It's a secret part of the site reserved for a select few.

Well it's 47 miles from Grimethorpe, I mean Grimethorpe, who lives in a place called Grimethorpe........... :D :D :D :D :D :D :-X
Errrrr.....me......and other people.... ::)
Title: Re: So, What do we think this one is worth?
Post by: Vamps on 09 February 2015, 20:57:10
I've been looking at this one

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201502070772300/sort/atcustom/page/1/make/vauxhall/postcode/s727na/onesearchad/used/usedcars/model/omega/quicksearch/true/body-type/estate/radius/60?logcode=p

You seriously thinking of getting another Mig, or just bored......... :D :D Where is that one at? seems a different style of layout and does not show location, or I ave missed it..... ::) ::)
It's a secret part of the site reserved for a select few.

Well it's 47 miles from Grimethorpe, I mean Grimethorpe, who lives in a place called Grimethorpe........... :D :D :D :D :D :D :-X
Errrrr.....me......and other people.... ::)

It looks quite a posh estate on Google Earth, all new houses............ :D :D :y

Title: Re: So, What do we think this one is worth?
Post by: The Sheriff on 09 February 2015, 21:32:06
I've been looking at this one

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201502070772300/sort/atcustom/page/1/make/vauxhall/postcode/s727na/onesearchad/used/usedcars/model/omega/quicksearch/true/body-type/estate/radius/60?logcode=p

You seriously thinking of getting another Mig, or just bored......... :D :D Where is that one at? seems a different style of layout and does not show location, or I ave missed it..... ::) ::)
It's a secret part of the site reserved for a select few.

Well it's 47 miles from Grimethorpe, I mean Grimethorpe, who lives in a place called Grimethorpe........... :D :D :D :D :D :D :-X
Errrrr.....me......and other people.... ::)

It looks quite a posh estate on Google Earth, all new houses............ :D :D :y
That's one part of it. Don't you remember the miners strike, Mike? There were 6000 miners in the three mines here. Google it.
Mines the house with the daewoo outside. :D
Title: Re: So, What do we think this one is worth?
Post by: ronnyd on 09 February 2015, 21:47:50
I've been looking at this one

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201502070772300/sort/atcustom/page/1/make/vauxhall/postcode/s727na/onesearchad/used/usedcars/model/omega/quicksearch/true/body-type/estate/radius/60?logcode=p

You seriously thinking of getting another Mig, or just bored......... :D :D Where is that one at? seems a different style of layout and does not show location, or I ave missed it..... ::) ::)
It's a secret part of the site reserved for a select few.

Well it's 47 miles from Grimethorpe, I mean Grimethorpe, who lives in a place called Grimethorpe........... :D :D :D :D :D :D :-X
I've been looking at this one

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201502070772300/sort/atcustom/page/1/make/vauxhall/postcode/s727na/onesearchad/used/usedcars/model/omega/quicksearch/true/body-type/estate/radius/60?logcode=p

You seriously thinking of getting another Mig, or just bored......... :D :D Where is that one at? seems a different style of layout and does not show location, or I ave missed it..... ::) ::)
Leek in Staffordshire, note spelling ;)
Title: Re: So, What do we think this one is worth?
Post by: Vamps on 09 February 2015, 22:13:54
I've been looking at this one

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201502070772300/sort/atcustom/page/1/make/vauxhall/postcode/s727na/onesearchad/used/usedcars/model/omega/quicksearch/true/body-type/estate/radius/60?logcode=p

You seriously thinking of getting another Mig, or just bored......... :D :D Where is that one at? seems a different style of layout and does not show location, or I ave missed it..... ::) ::)
It's a secret part of the site reserved for a select few.

Well it's 47 miles from Grimethorpe, I mean Grimethorpe, who lives in a place called Grimethorpe........... :D :D :D :D :D :D :-X
Errrrr.....me......and other people.... ::)

It looks quite a posh estate on Google Earth, all new houses............ :D :D :y
That's one part of it. Don't you remember the miners strike, Mike? There were 6000 miners in the three mines here. Google it.
Mines the house with the daewoo outside. :D

It wrecked the lives of many communities in this part of the Country............ :( :( :-X
Title: Re: So, What do we think this one is worth?
Post by: Vamps on 09 February 2015, 22:18:17
I've been looking at this one

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201502070772300/sort/atcustom/page/1/make/vauxhall/postcode/s727na/onesearchad/used/usedcars/model/omega/quicksearch/true/body-type/estate/radius/60?logcode=p

You seriously thinking of getting another Mig, or just bored......... :D :D Where is that one at? seems a different style of layout and does not show location, or I ave missed it..... ::) ::)
It's a secret part of the site reserved for a select few.

Well it's 47 miles from Grimethorpe, I mean Grimethorpe, who lives in a place called Grimethorpe........... :D :D :D :D :D :D :-X
I've been looking at this one

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201502070772300/sort/atcustom/page/1/make/vauxhall/postcode/s727na/onesearchad/used/usedcars/model/omega/quicksearch/true/body-type/estate/radius/60?logcode=p

You seriously thinking of getting another Mig, or just bored......... :D :D Where is that one at? seems a different style of layout and does not show location, or I ave missed it..... ::) ::)
Leek in Staffordshire, note spelling ;)

What have I missed? I cannot see where it is situated, and didn't try the post code because it is a telesafe number. I am not going for it anyway, should I decide on an estate there is a nice one going up here............... ;) ;)
Title: Re: So, What do we think this one is worth?
Post by: The Sheriff on 09 February 2015, 22:25:03
You havent missed anything, Mike, you're just not as good a detective as Ronny. Clue...STD.
Title: Re: So, What do we think this one is worth?
Post by: Vamps on 09 February 2015, 22:30:55
You havent missed anything, Mike, you're just not as good a detective as Ronny. Clue...STD.

I ignored that because it said it was a telesafe number, thinking that it would not be an area code, clearly I was wrong on this occasion.......... ;) ;)
Title: Re: So, What do we think this one is worth?
Post by: the alarming man on 09 February 2015, 22:45:01
postcode is above the phone number :y
Title: Re: So, What do we think this one is worth?
Post by: Vamps on 09 February 2015, 23:28:57
postcode is above the phone number :y

That's STMO's postcode................ ::) ::)
Title: Re: So, What do we think this one is worth?
Post by: the alarming man on 10 February 2015, 12:11:17
you may be right there ::)..... :y
Title: Re: So, What do we think this one is worth?
Post by: The Sheriff on 10 February 2015, 17:10:00
You dont see many 2004 plates

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201501150191433/sort/atcustom/make/vauxhall/page/2/model/omega/postcode/s727na/onesearchad/used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew/usedcars?logcode=p
Title: Re: So, What do we think this one is worth?
Post by: ronnyd on 10 February 2015, 17:49:44
You dont see many 2004 plates

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201501150191433/sort/atcustom/make/vauxhall/page/2/model/omega/postcode/s727na/onesearchad/used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew/usedcars?logcode=p
That one is only a few miles from me. :y
Title: Re: So, What do we think this one is worth?
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 10 February 2015, 19:04:40
You dont see many 2004 plates

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201501150191433/sort/atcustom/make/vauxhall/page/2/model/omega/postcode/s727na/onesearchad/used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew/usedcars?logcode=p

How much would you have to pay them to take the Daewoo?  :-\
Title: Re: So, What do we think this one is worth?
Post by: Shackeng on 10 February 2015, 19:31:23
You havent missed anything, Mike, you're just not as good a detective as Ronny. Clue...STD.

I've only just popped in here, so to save me reading it all, which of you reprobates has contracted the STD? ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: So, What do we think this one is worth?
Post by: The Sheriff on 10 February 2015, 19:35:35
You dont see many 2004 plates

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201501150191433/sort/atcustom/make/vauxhall/page/2/model/omega/postcode/s727na/onesearchad/used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew/usedcars?logcode=p

How much would you have to pay them to take the Daewoo?  :-\
About minus six grand  :y
Title: Re: So, What do we think this one is worth?
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 10 February 2015, 19:37:32
You dont see many 2004 plates

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201501150191433/sort/atcustom/make/vauxhall/page/2/model/omega/postcode/s727na/onesearchad/used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew/usedcars?logcode=p

How much would you have to pay them to take the Daewoo?  :-\
About minus six grand  :y

I guess you're stuck with it then!  ;D
Title: Re: So, What do we think this one is worth?
Post by: The Sheriff on 10 February 2015, 19:40:16
You dont see many 2004 plates

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201501150191433/sort/atcustom/make/vauxhall/page/2/model/omega/postcode/s727na/onesearchad/used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew/usedcars?logcode=p

How much would you have to pay them to take the Daewoo?  :-\
About minus six grand  :y

I guess you're stuck with it then!  ;D
No. A reputable commercial buyer will give me nearly six for it.
Title: Re: So, What do we think this one is worth?
Post by: The Sheriff on 10 February 2015, 19:50:16
You could have one just like mine, Tigger

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201501110082362/sort/atcustom/radius/1500/make/chevrolet/onesearchad/used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew/postcode/s727na/fuel-type/petrol/quicksearch/true/usedcars/page/6/transmission/manual/model/orlando?logcode=p
Title: Re: So, What do we think this one is worth?
Post by: BazaJT on 10 February 2015, 21:22:47
Grimethorpe was if I remember rightly where that excellent film "Brassed Off" was made.However the words Grimethorpe and posh should never,ever be used in the same sentence!!
Title: Re: So, What do we think this one is worth?
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 10 February 2015, 21:35:28
You could have one just like mine, Tigger

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201501110082362/sort/atcustom/radius/1500/make/chevrolet/onesearchad/used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew/postcode/s727na/fuel-type/petrol/quicksearch/true/usedcars/page/6/transmission/manual/model/orlando?logcode=p

Thanks Uncle STMO!  :y

I don't think I could go that far though.  :-\  I'm sure the Omega would have a hissy fit if I tried to take it past Brum!  ;D
Title: Re: So, What do we think this one is worth?
Post by: Vamps on 10 February 2015, 22:29:18
You could have one just like mine, Tigger

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201501110082362/sort/atcustom/radius/1500/make/chevrolet/onesearchad/used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew/postcode/s727na/fuel-type/petrol/quicksearch/true/usedcars/page/6/transmission/manual/model/orlando?logcode=p

It certainly has 'Presence'........... :y :y
Title: Re: So, What do we think this one is worth?
Post by: Vamps on 10 February 2015, 22:55:05
Back on track............ ::) ::) ::)

I have contacted the seller to arrange a viewing........... :y :y

Might have a 2.6 for sale....... :D :D
Title: Re: So, What do we think this one is worth?
Post by: ronnyd on 10 February 2015, 22:57:14
You could have one just like mine, Tigger

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201501110082362/sort/atcustom/radius/1500/make/chevrolet/onesearchad/used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew/postcode/s727na/fuel-type/petrol/quicksearch/true/usedcars/page/6/transmission/manual/model/orlando?logcode=p

It certainly has 'Presence'........... :y :y
Looks like it,s had a shot of Botox. :P
Title: Re: So, What do we think this one is worth?
Post by: Vamps on 11 February 2015, 21:39:40
Back on track............ ::) ::) ::)

I have contacted the seller to arrange a viewing........... :y :y

Might have a 2.6 for sale....... :D :D


Well I have not received a response to my request, now why would he not?
Title: Re: So, What do we think this one is worth?
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 11 February 2015, 23:44:34
Back on track............ ::) ::) ::)

I have contacted the seller to arrange a viewing........... :y :y

Might have a 2.6 for sale....... :D :D


Well I have not received a response to my request, now why would he not?

Charlatan?... :-X
Title: Re: So, What do we think this one is worth?
Post by: Vamps on 12 February 2015, 00:01:25
Back on track............ ::) ::) ::)

I have contacted the seller to arrange a viewing........... :y :y

Might have a 2.6 for sale....... :D :D


Well I have not received a response to my request, now why would he not?

Charlatan?... :-X

Someone has bid on it............. ;) ;)
Title: Re: So, What do we think this one is worth?
Post by: Vamps on 13 February 2015, 00:55:21
Back on track............ ::) ::) ::)

I have contacted the seller to arrange a viewing........... :y :y

Might have a 2.6 for sale....... :D :D


Well I have not received a response to my request, now why would he not?

Still no response, suggesting to me that he does not want anyone to view before bidding, shame really as only about 15 miles away for me............. :-\ :-\
Title: Re: So, What do we think this one is worth?
Post by: 05omegav6 on 13 February 2015, 07:51:44
That suggests summat to hide :-\ viewing should be actively encouraged, surely...
Title: Re: So, What do we think this one is worth?
Post by: scimmy_man on 13 February 2015, 12:21:44
dont call me Shirley ;D
Title: Re: So, What do we think this one is worth?
Post by: 05omegav6 on 13 February 2015, 13:38:37
dont call me Shirley ;D
Don't worry Gladys, I won't... ;D
Title: Re: So, What do we think this one is worth?
Post by: andrew-v8 on 13 February 2015, 15:45:05
Vamps might be a Silly question but have you just messaged them or phoned them? When ive sold cars i find timeweasters just message (not saying you are). If ive seen a car i like i'd be on the phone asap to arrange a viewing.


Title: Re: So, What do we think this one is worth?
Post by: Steve B on 13 February 2015, 16:17:09
Vamps might be a Silly question but have you just messaged them or phoned them? When ive sold cars i find timeweasters just message (not saying you are). If ive seen a car i like i'd be on the phone asap to arrange a viewing.
Oh yes he is  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: So, What do we think this one is worth?
Post by: Shallow Al on 13 February 2015, 18:22:40
I may be missing something.....but, how do you put oil in it?, with the oil filler neck where it is.
Title: Re: So, What do we think this one is worth?
Post by: Vamps on 13 February 2015, 19:02:37
I may be missing something.....but, how do you put oil in it?, with the oil filler neck where it is.

I leave that to the garage............ :D :D
Title: Re: So, What do we think this one is worth?
Post by: Vamps on 13 February 2015, 19:07:17
Vamps might be a Silly question but have you just messaged them or phoned them? When ive sold cars i find timeweasters just message (not saying you are). If ive seen a car i like i'd be on the phone asap to arrange a viewing.

I sent the following;

Hi, can you give me a phone number / email as I would like to view this car. you may be interested to hear that this car is being discussed on an Omega Forum.

Apparently I could not give you my email address, ebay stopped me sending.

Regards

Mike

He has replied, tonight at 18:36, a man of few words as he simply sent a phone number, bit late though as it runs out tomorrow; 5 bids on it now, anyone?.... ;) ;)  Reserve not met yet though................ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: So, What do we think this one is worth?
Post by: The Sheriff on 13 February 2015, 19:47:12
If the auction finishes tomorrow, and you're interested, you'd better give him a ring....hadn't you?
Title: Re: So, What do we think this one is worth?
Post by: Vamps on 13 February 2015, 19:50:08
If the auction finishes tomorrow, and you're interested, you'd better give him a ring....hadn't you?

I have just raised the question, with swmbo - her silence speaks volumes.......... :D :D :D

We could do with an estate, so would be for her............. ;) ;)
Title: Re: So, What do we think this one is worth?
Post by: 05omegav6 on 13 February 2015, 19:52:19
I may be missing something.....but, how do you put oil in it?, with the oil filler neck where it is.
Basically you can't because some idiott (not what I typed) has fitted Vectra camcovers... ::) Vamps, the number plate tells you everything you need to see about it :y
Title: Re: So, What do we think this one is worth?
Post by: brian36 on 13 February 2015, 20:07:50
I enquired about this and got couple replies he is looking for around 950 and states no leaks Drives as new, only code showing is a message saying: Headlamp aim low, this is due to height switch on rear axle being stiff due to the car only doing 1000 miles per year for the past 5 years
Title: Re: So, What do we think this one is worth?
Post by: Vamps on 13 February 2015, 20:28:00
I may be missing something.....but, how do you put oil in it?, with the oil filler neck where it is.
Basically you can't because some idiott (not what I typed) has fitted Vectra camcovers... ::) Vamps, the number plate tells you everything you need to see about it :y

 :y :y

I notice someone has pulled out, price dropped £20 and now only 4 bidders........... ;)
Title: Re: So, What do we think this one is worth?
Post by: Vamps on 15 February 2015, 01:02:33
OK, who bought it?............ ;) ;)
Title: Re: So, What do we think this one is worth?
Post by: 05omegav6 on 15 February 2015, 01:17:43
Wasn't me ::)
Title: Re: So, What do we think this one is worth?
Post by: biggriffin on 15 February 2015, 10:17:14
OK, who bought it?............ ;) ;)
Wasn't you then,
 should have walked the walk instead of procrastinating,on here.
Title: Re: So, What do we think this one is worth?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 15 February 2015, 10:31:40
I enquired about this and got couple replies he is looking for around 950 and states no leaks Drives as new, only code showing is a message saying: Headlamp aim low, this is due to height switch on rear axle being stiff due to the car only doing 1000 miles per year for the past 5 years him not bothering to maintain it properly.

Fixed. ::)
Title: Re: So, What do we think this one is worth?
Post by: 05omegav6 on 15 February 2015, 13:25:37
OK, who bought it?............ ;) ;)
Wasn't you then,
 should have walked the walk instead of procrastinating,on here.
Ooooh :o that there be fighting talk... ;D
Title: Re: So, What do we think this one is worth?
Post by: Vamps on 15 February 2015, 20:01:31
OK, who bought it?............ ;) ;)
Wasn't you then,
 should have walked the walk instead of procrastinating,on here.


 ??? ??? ???
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 :P :P
Title: Re: So, What do we think this one is worth?
Post by: EMD on 15 February 2015, 20:25:36
OK, who bought it?............ ;) ;)

Who bought what  :-\ .. the daewoo the omega or the chevy  :-\ ;D
Title: Re: So, What do we think this one is worth?
Post by: Vamps on 15 February 2015, 21:24:15
OK, who bought it?............ ;) ;)

Who bought what  :-\ .. the daewoo the omega or the chevy  :-\ ;D

Not at all sure any more...................... :D :D ;)
Title: Re: So, What do we think this one is worth?
Post by: EMD on 16 February 2015, 18:30:18
OK, who bought it?............ ;) ;)

Who bought what  :-\ .. the daewoo the omega or the chevy  :-\ ;D

Not at all sure any more...................... :D :D ;)

There's a white 3.2 estate on thats attracting a bit of attention  ::)
Title: Re: So, What do we think this one is worth?
Post by: the alarming man on 16 February 2015, 21:58:08
so there is...this one


http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=128818.0 (http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=128818.0)