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Title: What will stick leather to plastic?
Post by: sjc on 22 February 2015, 20:31:40
I bought a new leather handbrake gaiter and need to attach it to the plastic frame - the original one was stapled on but I don't have anything that's powerful enough to put the new one on like that so was thinking best to glue it on somehow.

Anyone done this?

Think I may have some bostik impact adhesive kicking about, would that work?
Title: Re: What will stick leather to plastic?
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 22 February 2015, 21:38:27
Yes that was going to be my suggestion. As a guess.
Title: Re: What will stick leather to plastic?
Post by: The Sheriff on 22 February 2015, 21:53:53
I reckon, on your bostik impact adhesive tube, it will say "Sticks leather to metal"  ;D
Title: Re: What will stick leather to plastic?
Post by: sjc on 22 February 2015, 21:59:44
I'll confirm that if I manage to find the damn stuff  ;D
Title: Re: What will stick leather to plastic?
Post by: Andy B on 22 February 2015, 22:10:26
Tiger Seal & Sikaflex sticks anything to anything  :y :y

Can't you reuse the old staples by using the existing holes in the plastic & making new holes in the leather for the staple to go through?  :-\
Title: Re: What will stick leather to plastic?
Post by: sjc on 22 February 2015, 22:13:13
The old staples broke up on extraction  :(
Title: Re: What will stick leather to plastic?
Post by: Andy B on 22 February 2015, 22:25:36
The old staples broke up on extraction  :(

TIG/MIG welding wire?  ;) I used some stainless filler wire as staples to re-staple clips to the edge of the Smart's carpet  :y
Title: Re: What will stick leather to plastic?
Post by: 05omegav6 on 22 February 2015, 22:26:18
Said staples don't actually pass through the plastic... They merely locate the gaiter whilst they are heat welded in place...

Good luck making replacement fit...
Title: Re: What will stick leather to plastic?
Post by: The Sheriff on 22 February 2015, 22:26:59
The old staples broke up on extraction  :(
No, no. This is a technical question, so lets be technically correct. YOU broke the old staples....didn't you? Eh? Eh?
Title: Re: What will stick leather to plastic?
Post by: Andy B on 22 February 2015, 22:28:20
Said staples don't actually pass through the plastic...  .....

I'm sure sjc knows what a staple looks like .......  ::) ::)  ;)
Title: Re: What will stick leather to plastic?
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 22 February 2015, 22:28:45
Tiger Seal & Sikaflex sticks anything to anything  :y :y

Can't you reuse the old staples by using the existing holes in the plastic & making new holes in the leather for the staple to go through?  :-\

Tiger Seal and Sikaflex.....? Is that like a new Araldite type thing...? Squeeze two tubes together and mix?  ???
Title: Re: What will stick leather to plastic?
Post by: The Sheriff on 22 February 2015, 22:29:41
Said staples don't actually pass through the plastic...  .....

I'm sure sjc knows what a staple looks like .......  ::) ::)  ;)
Our local staples has closed. It's a macdonalds now.
Title: Re: What will stick leather to plastic?
Post by: Andy B on 22 February 2015, 22:30:37
....
Tiger Seal and Sikaflex.....? Is that like a new Araldite type thing...? Squeeze two tubes together and mix?  ???

No. It comes in a mastic tube ...... a bit like 'No Nails' ...... they stick all kinds of automotive bits to cars with it these days - rear spoilers etc  :y
Title: Re: What will stick leather to plastic?
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 22 February 2015, 22:32:06
Said staples don't actually pass through the plastic...  .....

I'm sure sjc knows what a staple looks like .......  ::) ::)  ;)
Our local staples has closed. It's a macdonalds now.

I once saw oof described as "the superbly technical omega owners forum" you know.
Title: Re: What will stick leather to plastic?
Post by: sjc on 22 February 2015, 22:32:27
The old staples broke up on extraction  :(
No, no. This is a technical question, so lets be technically correct. YOU broke the old staples....didn't you? Eh? Eh?

Well, yeah sort of  :-[  ;D
Title: Re: What will stick leather to plastic?
Post by: The Sheriff on 22 February 2015, 22:32:52
Said staples don't actually pass through the plastic...  .....

I'm sure sjc knows what a staple looks like .......  ::) ::)  ;)
Our local staples has closed. It's a macdonalds now.

I once saw oof described as "the superbly technical omega owners forum" you know.
Hmmmmm...lies, I'm afraid  ;D
Title: Re: What will stick leather to plastic?
Post by: 05omegav6 on 22 February 2015, 22:33:49
Said staples don't actually pass through the plastic...  .....

I'm sure sjc knows what a staple looks like .......  ::) ::)  ;)
Patronising Soandso... Having failed to successfully carry out this precise operation on an Omega, rather than a Smart car door mat, I would like to think my contribution was actually useful.
Title: Re: What will stick leather to plastic?
Post by: Andy B on 22 February 2015, 22:35:21
... rather than a Smart car door mat, I would like to think my contribution was actually useful.

carpet  ;)

Title: Re: What will stick leather to plastic?
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 22 February 2015, 22:36:35
... rather than a Smart car door mat, I would like to think my contribution was actually useful.

carpet  ;)


.....and " helpfull " ;D
Title: Re: What will stick leather to plastic?
Post by: Andy B on 22 February 2015, 22:36:55
.... Having failed to successfully carry out this precise operation on an Omega,  ....

I bought the gaiter for my Omega but the car was sold before I got around to fitting it .......  ::) ::)
Title: Re: What will stick leather to plastic?
Post by: sjc on 22 February 2015, 22:40:48
Said staples don't actually pass through the plastic... They merely locate the gaiter whilst they are heat welded in place...

Good luck making replacement fit...

Yeah, they were only just in to the plastic and no more.

I could drill a number of small holes and kinda 'stitch' it on but I'm looking for a lazy solution  ;)
Title: Re: What will stick leather to plastic?
Post by: sjc on 22 February 2015, 22:43:50
I'll maybe just leave it off and class it as weight reduction  ;D ;D :D :-X
Title: Re: What will stick leather to plastic?
Post by: The Sheriff on 22 February 2015, 22:48:13
Said staples don't actually pass through the plastic... They merely locate the gaiter whilst they are heat welded in place...

Good luck making replacement fit...

Yeah, they were only just in to the plastic and no more.

I could drill a number of small holes and kinda 'stitch' it on but I'm looking for a lazy solution  ;)
Drill a number of small holes and put nice shiny self tappers in.
Title: Re: What will stick leather to plastic?
Post by: Broomies Mate on 22 February 2015, 22:50:40
Said staples don't actually pass through the plastic... They merely locate the gaiter whilst they are heat welded in place...

Good luck making replacement fit...

Yeah, they were only just in to the plastic and no more.

I could drill a number of small holes and kinda 'stitch' it on but I'm looking for a lazy solution  ;)
Drill a number of small holes and put nice shiny self tappers in.

Nah, drill one big hole and drive a M8 bolt straight through.  :y
Title: Re: What will stick leather to plastic?
Post by: sjc on 22 February 2015, 22:51:42
Said staples don't actually pass through the plastic... They merely locate the gaiter whilst they are heat welded in place...

Good luck making replacement fit...

Yeah, they were only just in to the plastic and no more.

I could drill a number of small holes and kinda 'stitch' it on but I'm looking for a lazy solution  ;)
Drill a number of small holes and put nice shiny self tappers in.

It may come to that  ;D
Title: Re: What will stick leather to plastic?
Post by: Nick W on 22 February 2015, 23:30:00
Returning to the question; you want the sort of impact adhesive that trimmers use for exactly this sort of job.
Spread a thin coat on both the plastic and the leather, and press them together. Hold for a few seconds and you're done.
Title: Re: What will stick leather to plastic?
Post by: steve6367 on 23 February 2015, 08:13:07
I bought a new leather handbrake gaiter and need to attach it to the plastic frame - the original one was stapled on but I don't have anything that's powerful enough to put the new one on like that so was thinking best to glue it on somehow.

Anyone done this?

Think I may have some bostik impact adhesive kicking about, would that work?

Have just completed this job on my 2 and they both stay in place without anything. If you put them over frame and push in place the friction holds it nicely :-)
Title: Re: What will stick leather to plastic?
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 23 February 2015, 08:20:09
To the OP, have some cream gaiters matching the cream leather door cards, and they're on with a hot glue gun, and been on in daily use and abuse for about 4 years now, without shifting.  :)

As steve6367 states, I suspect the friction fit is a large contributor to this.
Title: Re: What will stick leather to plastic?
Post by: 05omegav6 on 23 February 2015, 09:00:29
The issue we had was that the leather was simply to thick to fit, and completely the wrong shape... which was frustrating as it looks like a nice cosmetic job :-\
Title: Re: What will stick leather to plastic?
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 23 February 2015, 09:12:42
If it was the wrong shape (as in my case, actually)  was the issue that the gaiters were made for PFL, not FL? It never occurred to me at the time, but the FL gaiters are, I think, a little longer than PFL. Took a bit of a stretch but I got it in in the end.   :)
Title: Re: What will stick leather to plastic?
Post by: steve6367 on 23 February 2015, 10:32:45
The issue we had was that the leather was simply to thick to fit, and completely the wrong shape... which was frustrating as it looks like a nice cosmetic job :-\

Mine were cheap eBay ones and fit very well, I will dig out a link  :y
Title: Re: What will stick leather to plastic?
Post by: sjc on 23 February 2015, 10:38:25
Returning to the question; you want the sort of impact adhesive that trimmers use for exactly this sort of job.
Spread a thin coat on both the plastic and the leather, and press them together. Hold for a few seconds and you're done.

Do you know what they use Nick?
Title: Re: What will stick leather to plastic?
Post by: 05omegav6 on 23 February 2015, 11:54:32
I used heavy duty aerosol carpet adhesive from local Travis Perkins for my alcantara door panels :y
Title: Re: What will stick leather to plastic?
Post by: Nick W on 23 February 2015, 13:42:06
Returning to the question; you want the sort of impact adhesive that trimmers use for exactly this sort of job.
Spread a thin coat on both the plastic and the leather, and press them together. Hold for a few seconds and you're done.

Do you know what they use Nick?

The stuff I have was bought from a trimmer and is in a white can marked 'impact adhesive'.  Clearly repackaged from a larger container.
You can get it in aerosols from Home base etc, and while it's not very good will work OK for this sort of job.
Title: Re: What will stick leather to plastic?
Post by: Webby the Bear on 24 February 2015, 20:44:30
I purchased some two part epoxy at the weekend to get plastic to metal to stick. Would that work?
Title: Re: What will stick leather to plastic?
Post by: The Sheriff on 24 February 2015, 20:49:29
I purchased some two part epoxy at the weekend to get plastic to metal to stick. Would that work?
I don't think so. Araldite type of adhesive dries rock hard and even the rapid stuff takes agood while to cure. Something a bit more flexible needed here. The impact adhesive suggested right at the start is the way I'd go.
Title: Re: What will stick leather to plastic?
Post by: Webby the Bear on 24 February 2015, 20:53:34
I purchased some two part epoxy at the weekend to get plastic to metal to stick. Would that work?
I don't think so. Araldite type of adhesive dries rock hard and even the rapid stuff takes agood while to cure. Something a bit more flexible needed here. The impact adhesive suggested right at the start is the way I'd go.

 Fair enoUgh mate  :y
Title: Re: What will stick leather to plastic?
Post by: Andy B on 24 February 2015, 20:55:45
I purchased some two part epoxy at the weekend to get plastic to metal to stick. Would that work?
I don't think so. Araldite type of adhesive dries rock hard and even the rapid stuff takes agood while to cure. Something a bit more flexible needed here. The impact adhesive suggested right at the start is the way I'd go.

 Fair enoUgh mate  :y

You need an impact adhesive ...... something like Evostick - you can then sniff what's left!  ;D
Title: Re: What will stick leather to plastic?
Post by: Webby the Bear on 24 February 2015, 21:07:20
I purchased some two part epoxy at the weekend to get plastic to metal to stick. Would that work?
I don't think so. Araldite type of adhesive dries rock hard and even the rapid stuff takes agood while to cure. Something a bit more flexible needed here. The impact adhesive suggested right at the start is the way I'd go.

 Fair enoUgh mate  :y

You need an impact adhesive ...... something like Evostick - you can then sniff what's left!  ;D

Need some of that after dealing with the muppets at Hellfrauds today  ;D
Title: Re: What will stick leather to plastic?
Post by: Vamps on 25 February 2015, 19:31:08
Copydex should do the job!

Stuck 100's of badges to my campfire blanket in 1980 and they are still on now, all these later................. :y :y
Title: Re: What will stick leather to plastic?
Post by: Rods2 on 26 February 2015, 09:04:38
Ukrainian solution you need nails, sold by the 1kg bag, drill holes, bend them over on the inside, job done. :o :o :o Self tapping screws, well you have to buy them individually, from behind the counter glass at highly inflated prices, so Ukrainian's use 6" sorry their metric, 150mm nails for everything. ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: What will stick leather to plastic?
Post by: sjc on 26 February 2015, 09:09:40
^ sometimes brute force gives a lot of satisfaction  ???
Title: Re: What will stick leather to plastic?
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 26 February 2015, 10:10:08
I said it a few posts ago in this thread, and of course everyone can go their own way, but I fitted a gaiter (the wrong one, I might add, PFL on a FL so a little too short) with a plain old ordinary cheap hot glue gun about 4, probably nearer 6 years ago, and it's been in daily abuse since, and not come off.  :y
Title: Re: What will stick leather to plastic?
Post by: sjc on 26 February 2015, 10:33:11
Cheers for the replies guys. If I can't find the tube of Bostik I'm sure is in the garage somewhere then I'll get the glue gun out.

I'll report back with the outcome  ;)
Title: Re: What will stick leather to plastic?
Post by: steve6367 on 01 March 2015, 08:24:51
No adhesive here and it's still on  :y
Title: Re: What will stick leather to plastic?
Post by: sjc on 01 March 2015, 21:08:09
All stuck good and strong and fitted to the car, looking the dogs danglies.

Impact adhesive was the chosen weapon.

Cheers for all the help and suggestions guys, much appreciated.
Title: Re: What will stick leather to plastic?
Post by: The Sheriff on 01 March 2015, 21:19:45
So.....in summary.....one week ago......."I need to stick leather to plastic, got some impact adhesive, will that do?"
"Yep".


One week, and four pages, later........"Thanks, it did work".

OOF at it's best. ::)
Title: Re: What will stick leather to plastic?
Post by: ckz on 01 March 2015, 21:40:47
I bought a new leather handbrake gaiter and need to attach it to the plastic frame - the original one was stapled on but I don't have anything that's powerful enough to put the new one on like that so was thinking best to glue it on somehow.

Anyone done this?

Think I may have some bostik impact adhesive kicking about, would that work?

i used carpet spray glu couple years back and it was good for 2 years, i sold the car by then.
Title: Re: What will stick leather to plastic?
Post by: sjc on 01 March 2015, 22:14:51
So.....in summary.....one week ago......."I need to stick leather to plastic, got some impact adhesive, will that do?"
"Yep".


One week, and four pages, later........"Thanks, it did work".

OOF at it's best. ::)

Yep, that was pretty much it  ;D

A simple "yes" would've done, but where's the fun in that?