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Title: Top gear suspended.
Post by: The Red Baron on 10 March 2015, 17:31:54
http://www.motorsport.com/automotive/news/top-gear-s-jeremy-clarkson-suspended-show-will-not-broadcast-sunday
Title: Re: Top gear suspended.
Post by: Andy B on 10 March 2015, 17:37:06
 Yup! Too slow  :y (http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=129292.0)
Title: Re: Top gear suspended.
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 10 March 2015, 17:38:39
Yup! Too slow  :y (http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=129292.0)

x2 other posts   ::)
Title: Re: Top gear suspended.
Post by: chrisgixer on 10 March 2015, 19:24:39
Finally weeded out Pierse Morgan's grass then has he....?
Title: Re: Top gear suspended.
Post by: Varche on 10 March 2015, 22:39:24
oh ???

Someone is going to lose a lot of money. It won't be the lawyers either.
Title: Re: Top gear suspended.
Post by: Doctor Smeagol on 10 March 2015, 22:40:25
He steals it away from us  :'(
Title: Re: Top gear suspended.
Post by: Varche on 10 March 2015, 23:00:33
Replacement? Some say he was getting a bit old and tubby , all we know is.......

How about Susi Wolff? Mark Weber? Vicki Butler Henderson? The Wolfman who tackles anything on C4?
Title: Re: Top gear suspended.
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 10 March 2015, 23:04:50
Ben Collins?  ::)
Title: Re: Top gear suspended.
Post by: redelitev6 on 11 March 2015, 11:24:23
 ::) Publicity stunt ?
Title: Re: Top gear suspended.
Post by: Kate on 11 March 2015, 11:46:13
::) Publicity stunt ?

That's what I was thinking. :-\
Title: Re: Top gear suspended.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 11 March 2015, 11:52:49
Why should the show be taken off  air because of an internal disagreement between two men?

Strange. ??? ???

Title: Re: Top gear suspended.
Post by: Varche on 11 March 2015, 12:36:05
Why should the show be taken off  air because of an internal disagreement between two men?

Strange. ??? ???

Well imagine yourself as the manager of Top Gear show owned 100% by BBC with a truculent presenter who perhaps believes he is Top Gear.

How would you motivate the presenter to do a good job and not hit any more staff (if indeed that is what happened)?

Me I would bring in a stand in presenter (someone like Henry Cooper or Suzi Wolff) and broadcast the show. No show is bigger than the presenter.
Title: Re: Top gear suspended.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 11 March 2015, 12:42:36
Why should the show be taken off  air because of an internal disagreement between two men?

Strange. ??? ???

Well imagine yourself as the manager of Top Gear show owned 100% by BBC with a truculent presenter who perhaps believes he is Top Gear.

How would you motivate the presenter to do a good job and not hit any more staff (if indeed that is what happened)?

Me I would bring in a stand in presenter (someone like Henry Cooper or Suzi Wolff) and broadcast the show. No show is bigger than the presenter.

You'll need to dig him up first. :)
Title: Re: Top gear suspended.
Post by: Nick W on 11 March 2015, 12:52:38
Why should the show be taken off  air because of an internal disagreement between two men?

Strange. ??? ???

Well imagine yourself as the manager scheduler of Top Gear show owned 100% by BBC with a truculent presenter who perhaps believes he is Top Gear.

How would you motivate the presenter to do a good job and not hit any more staff (if indeed that is what happened)?




Corrected that for you. Clarkson and the executive producer own the format and make  the show for the BBC.
Title: Re: Top gear suspended.
Post by: omega2018 on 11 March 2015, 13:29:31
Why should the show be taken off  air because of an internal disagreement between two men?

Strange. ??? ???

Well imagine yourself as the manager scheduler of Top Gear show owned 100% by BBC with a truculent presenter who perhaps believes he is Top Gear.

How would you motivate the presenter to do a good job and not hit any more staff (if indeed that is what happened)?




Corrected that for you. Clarkson and the executive producer own the format and make  the show for the BBC.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jeremy-clarkson-sells-top-gear-1347649 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jeremy-clarkson-sells-top-gear-1347649)  interestingly the 3 years is due up this september.
Title: Re: Top gear suspended.
Post by: The Sheriff on 11 March 2015, 13:31:08
A repeat of 'Red arrows-inside the bubble' is on instead.
Title: Re: Top gear suspended.
Post by: The Sheriff on 11 March 2015, 13:33:32
Why should the show be taken off  air because of an internal disagreement between two men?

Strange. ??? ???

Well imagine yourself as the manager scheduler of Top Gear show owned 100% by BBC with a truculent presenter who perhaps believes he is Top Gear.

How would you motivate the presenter to do a good job and not hit any more staff (if indeed that is what happened)?




Corrected that for you. Clarkson and the executive producer own the format and make  the show for the BBC.


http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jeremy-clarkson-sells-top-gear-1347649 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jeremy-clarkson-sells-top-gear-1347649)  interestingly the 3 years is due up this september.
Clarkson may have slipped up trying to pronounce your username  ::)
Title: Re: Top gear suspended.
Post by: tigers_gonads on 11 March 2015, 14:25:53
Jeremy clarkson is a lucky bloke in being able to play the no nonsense black or white Alf Garnet, Mr Rigsby type of hero we used to look up to and laugh at.
The fact that a whole swathe of dim witted -pc correct at all costs, liberal limp wrists don't find him funny says more about how wanky our society has become and how they don't get the joke  >:(
Or more importantly how we have allowed the joke not to be funny anymore for fear of upsetting some insecure self appeasing minority who lets face it are there to be targeted due to there constant whingeing about being a victim.
I get the piss took out of me all the time for some of the things I come out with when i'm working, out in the pub, by my lad and mates etc and I actually take it as a compliment.
Nobody is really offended.
Its just a bloke been daft and having a laugh.
not an insult like it seems 95% of todays society.

All you liberals out there are to blame 
Humour - no taboos
Its the only thing that keeps us sane
(well some of us anyway)
Title: Re: Top gear suspended.
Post by: PhilRich on 11 March 2015, 16:03:00
Jeremy clarkson is a lucky bloke in being able to play the no nonsense black or white Alf Garnet, Mr Rigsby type of hero we used to look up to and laugh at.
The fact that a whole swathe of dim witted -pc correct at all costs, liberal limp wrists don't find him funny says more about how wanky our society has become and how they don't get the joke  >:(
Or more importantly how we have allowed the joke not to be funny anymore for fear of upsetting some insecure self appeasing minority who lets face it are there to be targeted due to there constant whingeing about being a victim.
I get the piss took out of me all the time for some of the things I come out with when i'm working, out in the pub, by my lad and mates etc and I actually take it as a compliment.
Nobody is really offended.
Its just a bloke been daft and having a laugh.
not an insult like it seems 95% of todays society.

All you liberals out there are to blame 
Humour - no taboos
Its the only thing that keeps us sane
(well some of us anyway)





Sadly that is an absolutely spot on assessment of the Multicultural Britain of today TG :(
Title: Re: Top gear suspended.
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 11 March 2015, 16:27:36
Have to agree - with humour either everything's ok, or nothing's ok, it's the way it has to be. When humour or an attempt at such (as not everyone's going to like every joke, that's a given) starts to deliberately exclude, or avoid a people, person, subject, and treat them differently, as far as I'm concerned that's every bit as damaging as it is to say 'ahh, let's never make jokes about ---- people any more, thus curing prejudice against the --- people'' Sorry, but that's not how it works. Not making fun of someone doesn't stop them being persecuted.

As far as I'm aware there wasn't an international culture of humour, being broadcast across the world, and fed into people's home when the Slave Trade was rife in the 1800s, or when Vikings pillaged the East Coast of this island in pre-Norman times. Exactly what amount of stand up comedy, sit-coms and general laughs were there in Irag under Hussein's regime, there to generate hate against those he persecuted. No. A joke is a joke. it's just that.

Now the theory is that jokes turn into actual snide and hate against the people that are the but of that joke. Yes? Well, ok, so we have a society that has nothing but hate/exclusion of Chickens, blondes, mothers in law and Doctors. Well, last time I checked, Western Society was fairly well-stocked with those mentioned in that list. A host of 'dumb blonde' jokes doesn't seem to have affected the bank balances of Britney Spears, Paris Hilton, Cameron Diaz etc.... Doctors I think seem to just scrape by, inspite of 'Doctor Doctor' funnies.

So telling a joke and it becoming prejudice, then verbal, then physical abuse, then genocide or war is perhaps like saying playing certain computer games turn us into people who actually go out on killing sprees, or or shoot zombies or whoever. No. Anyone of decent upbringing is aware of the make believe and the real. And where a line should be drawn.

Guess what? I was bullied at school. So was, presumably 50% of us (ergo the other 50% were bullies) and boo-hoo, people have said mean things to me, shock horror - that's called growing up. You tell them to get screwed, and move on, and live your life. They're only words, you can walk away, you don't need someone making legislation to 'protect' you. So therefore, the instant that they make a Government funded 'Northern and Wears Glasses Day' I'm shooting myself.  ;D
Title: Re: Top gear suspended.
Post by: scimmy_man on 11 March 2015, 16:54:50
Kiddy fiddling, that's fine at the BEEB but hit someone - oh no you'll have to go.
Title: Re: Top gear suspended.
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 11 March 2015, 16:55:30
haha. That's sounds about right!
Title: Re: Top gear suspended.
Post by: Andy B on 11 March 2015, 21:37:57
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qo85xMi8imY

What more is there to say?  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Top gear suspended.
Post by: Andy B on 12 March 2015, 11:47:10
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k17/Tiff4327/Clarkson_zpsunwipri9.jpg) (http://s84.photobucket.com/user/Tiff4327/media/Clarkson_zpsunwipri9.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Top gear suspended.
Post by: Varche on 12 March 2015, 12:03:37
Brilliant :y ;D ;D
Title: Re: Top gear suspended.
Post by: tigers_gonads on 12 March 2015, 15:16:33
pml  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Top gear suspended.
Post by: chrisgixer on 12 March 2015, 15:48:10
 ;D ;D ;D

 :D
Title: Re: Top gear suspended.
Post by: PhilRich on 12 March 2015, 16:48:32
Nice One Andy! :y ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Top gear suspended.
Post by: Andy B on 12 March 2015, 17:32:41
sent to me by my daughter  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Top gear suspended.
Post by: tigers_gonads on 12 March 2015, 19:04:07
Yes, I know its the fail but some very good points made in there 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2990777/RICHARD-LITTLEJOHN-white-male-damned-British-No-wonder-Beeb-wants-shot-Clarkson.html
Title: Re: Top gear suspended.
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 12 March 2015, 19:23:19
Good article that, especially the last few paragraphs.  :y

In all the media frenzy over the last couple of days, where is the producer that Clarkson allegedly hit? ???  He seems to have gone to ground or it just that nobody wants to hear his side of the story, in case he says something like "It's a storm in a teacup"  ::)

Being a little Po-faced though, if Clarkson did thump the guy then in any other workplace he'd be dismissed for gross misconduct and the BBC should be no exception.  ::)  However pulling the shows is a mistake and in my opinion demonstrates the disregard that senior managers at the BBC have for the licence payers and their money that pays their fat salaries and pensions!  >:(
Title: Re: Top gear suspended.
Post by: humbucker on 12 March 2015, 19:29:06
Why should the show be taken off  air because of an internal disagreement between two men?

Strange. ??? ???

Well imagine yourself as the manager scheduler of Top Gear show owned 100% by BBC with a truculent presenter who perhaps believes he is Top Gear.

How would you motivate the presenter to do a good job and not hit any more staff (if indeed that is what happened)?




Corrected that for you. Clarkson and the executive producer own the format and make  the show for the BBC.

No, they don't. They sold their 50% stake in it to the BBC a few years back (Auntie already owned 50%), allegedly as a consequence of May and Hammond's complaints that Clarkson and Wilman were reaping the rewards while Mr Slow and the grinning idiot were doing as much as their colleagues to make the show a success.

I'm still not entirely convinced that it isn't a massive publicity stunt. I don't buy into any of the rubbish that was supposed to have happened in Argentina, and this could be another massive - if somewhat ill-judged - PR exercise.
Title: Re: Top gear suspended.
Post by: 05omegav6 on 12 March 2015, 20:14:57
If it happened, then the producer involved should also be suspended pending any investigation... Guilty party gets sacked, innocent party gets reinstated without prejudice...

The person getting thumped isn't always the victim either ;)
Title: Re: Top gear suspended.
Post by: hercules on 12 March 2015, 20:18:14
well ive just watched the episode with the complaint from mr needham about the fiesta test drive so he takes a Renault twingo to Ireland which he drove upside down in the sewer ;D quality viewing infact the whole episode was spot on old fashioned topgear,talking about mick dick from audi and they start taking piss out of the name and james may comes out with roger todger ;D
Title: Re: Top gear suspended.
Post by: Andy B on 12 March 2015, 20:24:24
well ive just watched the episode with the complaint from mr needham about the fiesta test drive so he takes a Renault twingo to Ireland  .......

Just seen the end of it, where he didn't quite make the ferry  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Top gear suspended.
Post by: 05omegav6 on 12 March 2015, 20:27:39
well ive just watched the episode with the complaint from mr needham about the fiesta test drive so he takes a Renault twingo to Ireland  .......

Just seen the end of it, where he didn't quite make the ferry  ;D ;D
Poor old Ross Kemp does suffer for his art... ;D
Title: Re: Top gear suspended.
Post by: Andy B on 20 March 2015, 21:30:06
Unashamedly nicked from another forum ....... who remembers Top Gear BC - before Clarkson  ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_Kd5irc2IA
Title: Re: Top gear suspended.
Post by: Varche on 20 March 2015, 23:50:04
I do  :o
Title: Re: Top gear suspended.
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 23 March 2015, 09:11:06
The first ever Top Gear thirty-three seconds in features.. a Vauxhall! yey!!  :D
Title: Re: Top gear suspended.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 23 March 2015, 11:17:47
Unashamedly nicked from another forum ....... who remembers Top Gear BC - before Clarkson  ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_Kd5irc2IA

I remember that shortarse Noel Edmunds. William Woollard was a touch dull, as was Chris Goffey.
Title: Re: Top gear suspended.
Post by: Kevin Wood on 23 March 2015, 11:52:03
Unashamedly nicked from another forum ....... who remembers Top Gear BC - before Clarkson  ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_Kd5irc2IA

I remember that shortarse Noel Edmunds. William Woollard was a touch dull, as was Chris Goffey.

But, then, it was later brightened up by Julia Bradbury and Kate Humble. :-*
Title: Re: Top gear suspended.
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 26 March 2015, 12:13:21
Unashamedly nicked from another forum ....... who remembers Top Gear BC - before Clarkson  ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_Kd5irc2IA

I remember that shortarse Noel Edmunds. William Woollard was a touch dull, as was Chris Goffey.

But, then, it was later brightened up by Julia Bradbury and Kate Humble. :-*

Dont forget VBH  :P  ::) :y

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Top_Gear_presenters
Title: Re: Top gear suspended.
Post by: aaronjb on 26 March 2015, 12:40:21
Kate Humble & VBH were quite easy on the eye (still are, I think)..
Title: Re: Top gear suspended.
Post by: VXL V6 on 26 March 2015, 13:21:06
MMMMmmmm VBH...  :y
Title: Re: Top gear suspended.
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 26 March 2015, 13:35:30
Jodie Kidd
Sabine ? (cant remember her sir name) - Google is brilliant - Sabine Schmitz  8) :y
Chris Evens

Any of the above with Sabine being the first choice as she can defineatly drive a car sideways.

Another consideration would be ex-stig Ben Collins.


Even better sell the show format to ITV or Channel 5 and bring back JC

Saying that, maybe time for another motoring show on maybe ITV and host it with Ex Top Gear Presenters :-X


Title: Re: Top gear suspended.
Post by: EMD on 26 March 2015, 13:41:41
My vote goes for suzi  :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*

(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/About/General/2013/10/23/1382524231711/Suzi-Perry-BBC-Formula-On-010.jpg)
Title: Re: Top gear suspended.
Post by: aaronjb on 26 March 2015, 13:44:34
As an ex boss of mine would say .. sparks would fly off of it.
Title: Re: Top gear suspended.
Post by: chrisgixer on 26 March 2015, 14:33:03
Nah, irritating voice.

I rekon JK. Mad as a bottle of fish ;D
Title: Re: Top gear suspended.
Post by: Steve B on 26 March 2015, 15:12:55
Nah, irritating voice.

I rekon JK. Mad as a bottle of fish ;D
What Jeremy Kyle ... Now thats a good idea  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Top gear suspended.
Post by: chrisgixer on 26 March 2015, 15:16:26
Nah, irritating voice.

I rekon JK. Mad as a bottle of fish ;D
What Jeremy Kyle ... Now thats a good idea  ;D ;D

Why have I now got a vision of that top gear conkers game, with Kyle on one crane and a Caravan on the other? ;D
Title: Re: Top gear suspended.
Post by: TheBoy on 26 March 2015, 18:02:35
My vote goes for suzi  :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*

(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/About/General/2013/10/23/1382524231711/Suzi-Perry-BBC-Formula-On-010.jpg)
You are having a giraffe?
Title: Re: Top gear suspended.
Post by: 05omegav6 on 26 March 2015, 18:07:02
Have you not seen the way she rubs herself against Nigel Mansell in the pit lane... it's almost erotic :o
Title: Re: Top gear suspended.
Post by: Kevin Wood on 26 March 2015, 18:43:06
Have you not seen the way she rubs herself against Nigel Mansell in the pit lane... it's almost erotic :o

Nigel Mansell and Erotic in the same sentence. You saw it here first! :o
Title: Re: Top gear suspended.
Post by: TheBoy on 26 March 2015, 18:52:59
Have you not seen the way she rubs herself against Nigel Mansell in the pit lane... it's almost erotic :o

Nigel Mansell and Erotic in the same sentence. You saw it here first! :o
Another first for OOF ;D               
Title: Re: Top gear suspended.
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 26 March 2015, 19:39:01
Nigel Mansell and Suzi Perry in the same pitlane. She must have a time machine that can take her back to the 80,s.  ::)
Love him or loathe him, Clarkson is / was Top Gear. If the BBC want to have a Top Gear programme in the future it will have to be something completely different to the previous version.
It would take someone seriously deluded to imagine they can parachute in A.N.Other celebrity in to fill his shoes.
Having said that, apparently someone at the Beeb suggested Stephen Fry as a replacement, which only shows how out of touch they are with the typical Top Gear viewer.
I don't care what they do, but please don't inflict that hateful, soulless tawt Chris Evans onto our screens.
Title: Re: Top gear suspended.
Post by: 05omegav6 on 26 March 2015, 19:53:20
Nope, it was definitely last year, Monaco iirc, and was quite steamy for the Beeb on a Sunday afternoon  :o
Title: Re: Top gear suspended.
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 26 March 2015, 20:03:33
Presumably he was talking rather than racing. :y
He was a fantastic racer, but a truly awful talker. ;D
Title: Re: Top gear suspended.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 26 March 2015, 20:03:58
How about Valentino Rossi?

More bike features on TG. :y
Title: Re: Top gear suspended.
Post by: Jusme on 26 March 2015, 20:21:41
+1
Title: Re: Top gear suspended.
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 26 March 2015, 20:33:18
I think Rossi is still quite busy with his other job - chasing Marquez.
It would be nice if bikes had their own separate programme. Plenty of possible candidates for the presenting job. Foggy and James Witham would be a good team.
Title: Re: Top gear suspended.
Post by: 05omegav6 on 26 March 2015, 20:44:40
Are you all pissed? Bikers presenting pseudo car shows that completely ignore bikes...

Might as well get Claire Bloody Balding to present it ???
Title: Re: Top gear suspended.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 26 March 2015, 21:08:31
Are you all pissed? Bikers presenting pseudo car shows that completely ignore bikes...

Might as well get Claire Bloody Balding to present it ???

Rumour has it that this lady is a rug munching lezzer.......of the butch variety. ;) ::) :D

She could do a piece on Mack trucks whilst wearing a lumberjack shirt.

Title: Re: Top gear suspended.
Post by: The Sheriff on 26 March 2015, 21:28:35
The best solution, in my opinion, would be to bury the whole fickin thing. How many of you watch it anyway?
Title: Re: Top gear suspended.
Post by: aaronjb on 26 March 2015, 21:35:12
According to the viewing figures it was the most popular programme on BBC2 bar none, 6million people.
Title: Re: Top gear suspended.
Post by: 05omegav6 on 26 March 2015, 21:40:18
Are you all pissed? Bikers presenting pseudo car shows that completely ignore bikes...

Might as well get Claire Bloody Balding to present it ???

Rumour has it that this lady is a rug munching lezzer.......of the butch variety. ;) ::) :D

She could do a piece strapped to the front Mack trucks whilst it's being driven into a burning building, wearing a lumberjack shirt.
Title: Re: Top gear suspended.
Post by: Gaffers on 26 March 2015, 21:48:56
Are you all pissed? Bikers presenting pseudo car shows that completely ignore bikes...

Might as well get Claire Bloody Balding to present it ???

Rumour has it that this lady is a rug munching lezzer.......of the butch variety. ;) ::) :D

She could do a piece on Mack trucks whilst wearing a lumberjack shirt.

That's not nice.

Just because she can pull hotter women than you is no reason to be like that ::)
Title: Re: Top gear suspended.
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 27 March 2015, 13:49:13
According to the viewing figures it was the most popular programme on BBC2 bar none, 6million people.

Would imagine that its the most watched show world wide.
Title: Re: Top gear suspended.
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 27 March 2015, 13:51:33
Seems its least popular in the middle east.

http://advertising.bbcworldwide.com/home/mediakit/reachaudience/topgear
Title: Re: Top gear suspended.
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 27 March 2015, 13:52:07
Talking of viewers, are we at least going to get to see the last 3 episodes?
Title: Re: Top gear suspended.
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 27 March 2015, 13:57:57
Jodie Kidd
Sabine ? (cant remember her sir name) - Google is brilliant - Sabine Schmitz  8) :y
Chris Evens
Mr Bean (Rowan Atkinson - Massive car nut with a very interesting collection of cars himself)(Added)

Any of the above with Sabine being the first choice as she can defineatly drive a car sideways.

Another consideration would be ex-stig Ben Collins.


Even better sell the show format to ITV or Channel 5 and bring back JC

Saying that, maybe time for another motoring show on maybe ITV and host it with Ex Top Gear Presenters :-X



Title: Re: Top gear suspended.
Post by: Gaffers on 27 March 2015, 14:21:18
What if they do like HIGNFY when Angus Deayton was sacked, a different presenter every week?
Title: Re: Top gear suspended.
Post by: aaronjb on 27 March 2015, 14:28:45
Talking of viewers, are we at least going to get to see the last 3 episodes?

I don't think so..
Title: Re: Top gear suspended.
Post by: Kevin Wood on 27 March 2015, 15:13:17
What if they do like HIGNFY when Angus Deayton was sacked, a different presenter every week?

HIGNFY presenter is open to a wider selection of candidates on account of the show format not requiring him/her to be a steaming @rse, but just vaguely amusing and an above beast-enders level of IQ. :y