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Title: Wynn's lifter treatment.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 20 March 2015, 13:13:42
Snake oil.......or does what it says on the tin?
Title: Re: Wynn's lifter treatment.
Post by: tunnie on 20 March 2015, 13:15:00
Better off buying magic beans
Title: Re: Wynn's lifter treatment.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 20 March 2015, 13:18:09
Better off buying magic beans

As bad as that. :'(

Fortunately I don't have a cow  I can P/X for the beans. ::)
Title: Re: Wynn's lifter treatment.
Post by: VXL V6 on 20 March 2015, 13:32:19
Does a reasonable job on my 2.6, 3.2 never needed it though as it never suffers any lifter noise.

Quite a few on here will vouch for it - it's the only snake oil that isn't entirely pants.
Title: Re: Wynn's lifter treatment.
Post by: 05omegav6 on 20 March 2015, 13:42:07
Does a reasonable job on my 2.6, 3.2 never needed it though as it never suffers any lifter noise.

Quite a few on here will vouch for it - it's the only snake oil that isn't entirely pants.
Agreed, makes a noticeable difference  :y
Title: Re: Wynn's lifter treatment.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 20 March 2015, 13:58:28
Maybe I'll give it a whirl.

Leave the beast for a couple of days and she gets a bit arsey when I start her up.
Title: Re: Wynn's lifter treatment.
Post by: 05omegav6 on 20 March 2015, 14:00:02
What oil do you use? 10w40 semi or 5w30 fully synth :-\
Title: Re: Wynn's lifter treatment.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 20 March 2015, 14:05:28
What oil do you use? 10w40 semi or 5w30 fully synth :-\
GM usually.

But this time Fuch Titan 10/40 semi.
Title: Re: Wynn's lifter treatment.
Post by: Kevin Wood on 20 March 2015, 14:06:49
Try a couple of oil changes first and see if that helps, if only to clear out any crud that might otherwise get dislodged by the lifter cleaner and clog the pickup. :y
Title: Re: Wynn's lifter treatment.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 20 March 2015, 14:10:06
Try a couple of oil changes first and see if that helps, if only to clear out any crud that might otherwise get dislodged by the lifter cleaner and clog the pickup. :y

Every 3000 miles I refresh her lubrication so she is nice and slippery.

If I dip my fingers inside her, and then rub them together, I can tell that she is well looked after. :)
Title: Re: Wynn's lifter treatment.
Post by: Kevin Wood on 20 March 2015, 14:11:39
Try a couple of oil changes first and see if that helps, if only to clear out any crud that might otherwise get dislodged by the lifter cleaner and clog the pickup. :y

Every 3000 miles I refresh her lubrication so she is nice and slippy. :)

I should have guessed that you'd be tending to her lubrication with such dedication. ::)

Straight in with the Wynns, then. :y
Title: Re: Wynn's lifter treatment.
Post by: 05omegav6 on 20 March 2015, 14:13:18
Reason for asking is that 5w30 is thinner, so tends to drain down more readily, but flip side is that by virtue of being thicker, 10w40 takes a while to reach all the nooks and crannies until it's warmed up, that's where the lifter treatment comes in :y
Title: Re: Wynn's lifter treatment.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 20 March 2015, 14:33:38
Only about 100 miles since the last oil and filter change. So now seems as good a time as any.

Does it (Wynn's) work immediately, or will it take a few miles before I notice the difference?
Title: Re: Wynn's lifter treatment.
Post by: Bigron on 20 March 2015, 14:41:10
On advice from this excellent forum, I tried the Wynn's and it worked immediately - no noises at all!
Thanks gents, as ever, so very helpful.

Ron.
Title: Re: Wynn's lifter treatment.
Post by: 05omegav6 on 20 March 2015, 14:41:45
Only about 100 miles since the last oil and filter change. So now seems as good a time as any.

Does it (Wynn's) work immediately, or will it take a few miles before I notice the difference?
You should hear the difference as it circulates :y
Title: Re: Wynn's lifter treatment.
Post by: aaronjb on 20 March 2015, 14:44:07
If I dip my fingers inside her, and then rub them together, I can tell that she is well looked after. :)

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wynn's lifter treatment.
Post by: EMD on 20 March 2015, 14:46:05
Didnt do any good on my old elite but maybe it was past its best  :(
Title: Re: Wynn's lifter treatment.
Post by: henryd on 20 March 2015, 14:46:52
Better off buying magic beans

No,wynns lifter treatment actually works,it won't fix a buggered cam but will free a sticky lifter :y
Title: Re: Wynn's lifter treatment.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 20 March 2015, 14:52:05
Thanks chaps. :y

I've ordered a 350ml bottle for £6.99 delivered.

Halfords want £8.99 collect in store.

Will 350ml be enough?   
Title: Re: Wynn's lifter treatment.
Post by: tunnie on 20 March 2015, 14:55:27
Only about 100 miles since the last oil and filter change. So now seems as good a time as any.

Does it (Wynn's) work immediately, or will it take a few miles before I notice the difference?

Depends on the lifter noise, for me the 3.2's lifters are silent on start up.

It's only when everything is hot, does it get fair bit of lifter noise. Master diagnosed a dead/sticky lifter on the passenger bank, chucking in the Wynn's did naff all.  :(
Title: Re: Wynn's lifter treatment.
Post by: Kevin Wood on 20 March 2015, 15:01:00
Only about 100 miles since the last oil and filter change. So now seems as good a time as any.

Does it (Wynn's) work immediately, or will it take a few miles before I notice the difference?

Depends on the lifter noise, for me the 3.2's lifters are silent on start up.

It's only when everything is hot, does it get fair bit of lifter noise. Master diagnosed a dead/sticky lifter on the passenger bank, chucking in the Wynn's did naff all.  :(

Probably a different issue, since normally it's the other way round. Rattling when the oil is hot is probably more likely down to the lifters leaking down due to wear whereas failure of them to fill quickly on startup is more likely due to contamination.
Title: Re: Wynn's lifter treatment.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 20 March 2015, 15:02:37
Only about 100 miles since the last oil and filter change. So now seems as good a time as any.

Does it (Wynn's) work immediately, or will it take a few miles before I notice the difference?

Depends on the lifter noise, for me the 3.2's lifters are silent on start up.

It's only when everything is hot, does it get fair bit of lifter noise. Master diagnosed a dead/sticky lifter on the passenger bank, chucking in the Wynn's did naff all.  :(

Probably a different issue, since normally it's the other way round. Rattling when the oil is hot is probably more likely down to the lifters leaking down due to wear whereas failure of them to fill quickly on startup is more likely due to contamination.

Yep. Mine is fine when warm. More vocal on start up.
Title: Re: Wynn's lifter treatment.
Post by: chrisgixer on 20 March 2015, 15:28:02
I believe Tunnies issue is not lifter related, hence it didn't work for him.


However, it worked well on both my 3.2's as they did have a lifter related tap from cold, in conjunction with a couple of oil changes as said, it works well.
Title: Re: Wynn's lifter treatment.
Post by: tunnie on 20 March 2015, 15:42:27
Only about 100 miles since the last oil and filter change. So now seems as good a time as any.

Does it (Wynn's) work immediately, or will it take a few miles before I notice the difference?

Depends on the lifter noise, for me the 3.2's lifters are silent on start up.

It's only when everything is hot, does it get fair bit of lifter noise. Master diagnosed a dead/sticky lifter on the passenger bank, chucking in the Wynn's did naff all.  :(

Probably a different issue, since normally it's the other way round. Rattling when the oil is hot is probably more likely down to the lifters leaking down due to wear whereas failure of them to fill quickly on startup is more likely due to contamination.

Hopefully should find out soon, plan to get them swapped out for another set :)
Title: Re: Wynn's lifter treatment.
Post by: chrisgixer on 20 March 2015, 16:09:26
Has oil pump been discounted then? Since last thread?
Title: Re: Wynn's lifter treatment.
Post by: tunnie on 20 March 2015, 16:11:40
Has oil pump been discounted then? Since last thread?

On a trip to Nottingham, master said (from about 15 feet away) that it was a dead lifter. Most likely on the passenger bank, very kindly gave me a bag of good lifters. I've just be lazy at fitting them.

Since Dbug appears to have good results on gaskets, going to use those on the rebuild. It's over-due a belt too, so thought do the whole lot in one go.
Title: Re: Wynn's lifter treatment.
Post by: chrisgixer on 20 March 2015, 16:16:58
Aha. A plan! :y
Title: Re: Wynn's lifter treatment.
Post by: Mr.OmegaMan on 20 March 2015, 20:02:30
Have also had positive results with Wynn's lifter treatment in the 3.2  :y
Title: Re: Wynn's lifter treatment.
Post by: VXL V6 on 20 March 2015, 23:09:57
Thanks chaps. :y

I've ordered a 350ml bottle for £6.99 delivered.

Halfords want £8.99 collect in store.

Will 350ml be enough?
If you were down Cornwall / Devon way you could call into Trago and buy it for £4.99 a bottle.   ::)
Title: Re: Wynn's lifter treatment.
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 20 March 2015, 23:36:12
I like Trago!  :y
Title: Re: Wynn's lifter treatment.
Post by: VXL V6 on 20 March 2015, 23:53:44
I shall be passing (read as calling in in works time) the Newton Abbot one so will call into their motor section to pick up some more bottles of the afformentioned fluid.  :y
Title: Re: Wynn's lifter treatment.
Post by: Webby the Bear on 21 March 2015, 09:56:20
I've used it with oil changes when I remember to put it in. It defo makes cold starts quiter. Although not really bothered about a 20 second tapping-fest (Easy stmo lol) in the mornings
Title: Re: Wynn's lifter treatment.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 21 March 2015, 11:10:27
Is Wynn's similar, or the same, as Slick 50 and STP oil treatment?
Title: Re: Wynn's lifter treatment.
Post by: scimmy_man on 21 March 2015, 13:08:09
no slick has ptfe in it (think non stick pan) and wynnes has thousands of pixies that fix things by magic. :y
Title: Re: Wynn's lifter treatment.
Post by: VXL V6 on 21 March 2015, 17:12:42
Is Wynn's similar, or the same, as Slick 50 and STP oil treatment?
Slick 50 is the work of the devil.

Wynns lifter treatment works by softening the gunk in the lifters I believe.
Title: Re: Wynn's lifter treatment.
Post by: Kevin Wood on 21 March 2015, 17:30:30
I've used it with oil changes when I remember to put it in. It defo makes cold starts quiter. Although not really bothered about a 20 second tfapping-fest (Easy stmo lol) in the mornings

Fixed for STMO. ::)
Title: Re: Wynn's lifter treatment.
Post by: Shackeng on 21 March 2015, 19:59:12
Thanks chaps. :y

I've ordered a 350ml bottle for £6.99 delivered.

Halfords want £8.99 collect in store.

Will 350ml be enough?
If you were down Cornwall / Devon way you could call into Trago and buy it for £4.99 a bottle.   ::)

Blimey, are they still going, IIRC Trago Mills started when I was stationed at St Mawgan in the '60's. ???
Title: Re: Wynn's lifter treatment.
Post by: henryd on 21 March 2015, 20:20:18
Thanks chaps. :y

I've ordered a 350ml bottle for £6.99 delivered.

Halfords want £8.99 collect in store.

Will 350ml be enough?
If you were down Cornwall / Devon way you could call into Trago and buy it for £4.99 a bottle.   ::)


Blimey, are they still going, IIRC Trago Mills started when I was stationed at St Mawgan in the '60's. ???

Yep,Falmouth, Liskeard and Newton Abbot,still going strong