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Title: Losing PAS fluid at quite a rate
Post by: Webby the Bear on 20 March 2015, 20:19:16
As above. Is there a likely place to start looking for this leak. Having to top up every week  :'(

I'm using Dex II which I believe is correct (I understand that using Dex III would pee out as it's thinner).

There's no obvious signs of loss from around the PAS reservoir so it looks like i'll have to remove some stuff to get down to the pump area (I presume its one of the connections in this area?

Any hints, tips or tricks welcome  :y
Title: Re: Losing PAS fluid at quite a rate
Post by: 05omegav6 on 20 March 2015, 20:22:21
Place a board under neath with the engine running... Allow to warm up, turn it lock to lock a few times, then leave it to cool and see what pours out where :y

Don't forget the cooler, across in front of front fans low down...
Title: Re: Losing PAS fluid at quite a rate
Post by: Webby the Bear on 20 March 2015, 20:24:10
Cheers Taxi  :y

Forgive me cos its been a long day.... Theres a pas fluid cooler ?
Title: Re: Losing PAS fluid at quite a rate
Post by: 05omegav6 on 20 March 2015, 20:25:12
Re read my last and let it sink in :-*
Title: Re: Losing PAS fluid at quite a rate
Post by: Andy B on 20 March 2015, 21:01:43
Cheers Taxi  :y

Forgive me cos its been a long day.... Theres a pas fluid cooler ?

Place a board under neath with the engine running... Allow to warm up, turn it lock to lock a few times, then leave it to cool and see what pours out where :y

Don't forget the cooler, across in front of front fans low down...

 ::) ::) ::) ::) :y
Title: Re: Losing PAS fluid at quite a rate
Post by: Webby the Bear on 20 March 2015, 21:58:59
Transmission oil cooler are we talking about?

As said I'm really tired lol
Title: Re: Losing PAS fluid at quite a rate
Post by: Andy B on 20 March 2015, 22:07:52
Transmission oil cooler are we talking about?
:y :y :y Yes

As said I'm really tired lol
Awwwww  ::)
Title: Re: Losing PAS fluid at quite a rate
Post by: Webby the Bear on 20 March 2015, 22:11:38
Haha urine taker  ::) ;D

Why would I look at this though as I know it's pas fluid I'm losing. Appreciate its the same fluid but I've deffo not got gearbox fluid leak   :)
Title: Re: Losing PAS fluid at quite a rate
Post by: steve6367 on 20 March 2015, 22:25:53
Haha urine taker  ::) ;D

Why would I look at this though as I know it's pas fluid I'm losing. Appreciate its the same fluid but I've deffo not got gearbox fluid leak   :)

Is Al not recommending a look at the PAS fluid cooler?  :-\
Title: Re: Losing PAS fluid at quite a rate
Post by: 4x4 on 20 March 2015, 22:28:04
There is a pipe that runs along near bottom of rad in a u shape ,this is the pas cooler,they tend to corrode,but you must be leaving a big puddle every time you park up.
Title: Re: Losing PAS fluid at quite a rate
Post by: Webby the Bear on 20 March 2015, 22:38:29
Going to come back to this tomorrow  ;D

Thanks boys I'll getme me bonfe under there and see what I can find
Title: Re: Losing PAS fluid at quite a rate
Post by: Webby the Bear on 20 March 2015, 22:38:48
*bonce even
Title: Re: Losing PAS fluid at quite a rate
Post by: Andy B on 20 March 2015, 22:54:34
Haha urine taker  ::) ;D

Why would I look at this though as I know it's pas fluid I'm losing. Appreciate its the same fluid but I've deffo not got gearbox fluid leak   :)

Is Al not recommending a look at the PAS fluid cooler?  :-\

You're quite right Steve ....... I'm loosing the plot!  ???
Title: Re: Losing PAS fluid at quite a rate
Post by: Andy B on 20 March 2015, 22:56:12
Haha urine taker  ::) ;D

Why would I look at this though as I know it's pas fluid I'm losing. Appreciate its the same fluid but I've deffo not got gearbox fluid leak   :)

There's an ATF gearbox box cooler in the side of the rad & a U shaped (on its side) PAS fluid cooler in front of the rad  :y
Title: Re: Losing PAS fluid at quite a rate
Post by: 05omegav6 on 21 March 2015, 00:00:12
Transmission oil cooler are we talking about?
:y :y :y Yes

As said I'm really tired lol

No,no and no.

Transmission cooler is either built into the main rad or located separately between the aircon condenser and the main rad.

Power steering cooler runs across the bottom of rhe front fans. Has a section of rubber hose at one end held on by jubilee clips. Cooler itself is the pipe and clips to the front fan cable tray.

 :y
Title: Re: Losing PAS fluid at quite a rate
Post by: 05omegav6 on 21 March 2015, 04:00:44
Spot the difference...

Power Steering Cooler (http://workshop-manuals.com/vauxhall/omega-b/m__steering/power_steering/repair_instructions/coolant_loop_replace_(vehicles_with_rhd)/)

And...

Transmission Cooler (http://images.esellerpro.com/2777/I/29/52496582.jpg)

 ::)
Title: Re: Losing PAS fluid at quite a rate
Post by: terry paget on 21 March 2015, 07:58:32
Gosh! Thank you Al, I learn something new every day. I had alway assumed that the normal pipework was enough to cool the fluid, in the same way that on the 2 litre there is no oil cooler while on the 2.2 ther is a coil of coolant pipe around the oil filter top.
Title: Re: Losing PAS fluid at quite a rate
Post by: Webby the Bear on 21 March 2015, 09:46:00
Cheers Al, I'll get under and have a butchers. Hopefully the leak will be obvious  :-X