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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: terry paget on 05 May 2015, 18:54:50
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Now the law on car tax has changed, How do I legally buy and drive home a used car? Presuming it has MOT, I can organise insurance over the phone, but can I road tax it? Has DVLA some way of instant taxing on purchase? Should I simply insure, purchase, drive home and tax on line the following day?
There must be some way of doing it. I recall in the past used car dealers simply stuck on the windscreen discs saying 'Tax applied for'.
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It should be taxed by present owner just drive it home and tax it the next day. Make sure you insure it first.
When you tax it the present owner will get back his tax
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The System says you need to Tax it before you drive it away or face a Fine, via online or telephone (24 hour), car needs to be MOTed in order to Tax it, believe or not you dont need Insurance in place to Tax it anymore, you just declare you have a valid Insurance in place (obviously you need Insurance in place to be road legal).
Assuming the car is already Taxed and not Sorn by the previous keeper, the Tax (on the system) wont drop off the system until DVLA receives the Change of Keeper details via the Post. So you can make your own mind up on that one. ;)
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Takes two minutes to do online and is pretty much instant :y
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The last car I bought (from a garage forecourt) was not taxed. I used the garage computer to tax it online. Took all of 3 minutes. Wouldn't take any longer on a smartphone. :y
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As said above, I believe you can now tax it using the Green Slip of V5.
When I picked up my Mig on Saturday, it hadn't got anything on it. I pre-booked an MOT (with reg number) and day policyed it to get it home. I am expecting letters from either the police, the DVLA or both.
I'll write back and explain. Insurance is the big one as it's criminal, MOT/Tax are civil.
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Bought two cars recently and could not tax them with the green slip, the online system is a beta version and I don't think it works with older logbooks,
Both were taxed so the seller will not get a refund for the current month, then dvla get another payment from me for the same month, twice the payment for one months tax, ripoff!!!
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Bought two cars recently and could not tax them with the green slip, the online system is a beta version and I don't think it works with older logbooks,
Both were taxed so the seller will not get a refund for the current month, then dvla get another payment from me for the same month, twice the payment for one months tax, ripoff!!!
Yep, had some issues on the older ones online not working, but worked at the Post Office, also believe the new ones, that have a different number on the New Keepers Slip, can only be taxed using that slip if the car is currently taxed. Maybe that's the bit that is supposed to ping the system as to a New Owner.
Either way, as said, if the car is road legal and already taxed by the current Owner, then it wont show any issues up on the system on the way home, if you get my drift.
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Or alternatively rent a trailer £50 a day here :)
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Or alternatively rent a trailer £50 a day here :)
I looked into that, found one here for £35 a day, but they weigh half a ton, and I would need a tractor weighing more than trailer plus load, i.e. not another Omega. I would need to hire a car recovery vehicle, I imagine they are more expensive.
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Hiring a large van based transporter costs about £100 a day here.
But you can't carry an Omega on one.
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When I got the Monaro last month I taxed it online with the green slip no problem. :y 8)
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Key point of note : You have to apply for tax in your name Immediately (well within 24hrs) of purchase even if it still shows as taxed until the end of the month.
I bought a car on the 15th of April and it said online taxed until 1st May so I didn't bother taxing it till then. (bearing in mind I only got the v5c back on 29th or something). The online thing warned that they may be in contact re: lack of continuity of tax/sorn. You don't even get the balance of the month that someone else already paid for. Robbing bar stewards. >:(
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When I bought the last Omega 4 weeks ago, the Sales place gave me the green slip. I went online and taxed it (DVLA Beta system) before I went to collect the car. Took all of two minutes, just had to enter the reference number on the green slip, and did not even have to enter my name etc. Doddle :y
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It should be taxed by present owner just drive it home and tax it the next day. Make sure you insure it first.
When you tax it the present owner will get back his tax
This is incorrect.
Unfortunately, road tax can no longer be passed on with the sale of a car. The car's new owner needs to tax it before hitting the road. Tax is refunded to the car's previous owner when he or she requests cancellation.
Easy enough to get fresh tax by firing up the DVLA website on your phone/tablet/computer and punching in the car's particulars.
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last month passed on a car to daughter - notified DVLA online and I pay the tax for the whole of the month before a refund is due based on a refund from the following month onwards, my daughter was notified online to road tax via a post office, and she pays the tax for the whole of the same month as well - Inland Revenue paid twice for 1 month , they are happy so no problems as vehicle has a current MOT, and insurance in place for the new driver,document trail available for authorities should they need it.
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This taking the money twice rant is getting boring....
That was exactly the same with the old system, as they only refunded complete months... so then, and now, if you sold a car on the 20th of say May, you would be refunded from June onwards, and the new keeper would tax the car from the 1st of May. ::)
Only thing that has changed is that you can do the whole thing online and pay for it monthly. Both far simpler. :'y
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No Al, the thing that has changed is that you have to cash in the RFL when you sell a car. Previously you could leave it taxed, and neither owner lost money on part-used months.
But it is boring, as the £20 you 'lose' is a tiny part of the cost of buying a car.
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I've said it before and I'll say again. ::) You'd think that in 2015 they could have calculated the RFL on a daily basis rather than monthly. ::) >:(
Still, suck it up fellas and think of the deficit! :y
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No Al, the thing that has changed is that you have to cash in the RFL when you sell a car. Previously you could leave it taxed, and neither owner lost money on part-used months.
But it is boring, as the £20 you 'lose' is a tiny part of the cost of buying a car.
Unless it's an Omega, then it's 50% of the purchase price.. ;D
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No Al, the thing that has changed is that you have to cash in the RFL when you sell a car. Previously you could leave it taxed, and neither owner lost money on part-used months.
But it is boring, as the £20 you 'lose' is a tiny part of the cost of buying a car.
Unless it's an Omega, then it's 50% of the purchase price.. ;D
.. or enough money to buy the petrol you used to use driving it to the post office. ::)
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If you follow the new rules to the letter, then both the Seller and the Buyer end up paying for the Tax twice in the same month every time a car is sold, so Gov get a double bubble for that month.
Only real way around it is, for the sale transaction date to be on Midnight of the last day of any month, so the Seller gets next months refund and Buyer starts his Tax.
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If you follow the new rules to the letter, then both the Seller and the Buyer end up paying for the Tax twice in the same month every time a car is sold, so Gov get a double bubble for that month.
Only real way around it is, for the sale transaction date to be on Midnight of the last day of any month, so the Seller gets next months refund and Buyer starts his Tax.
Which could have been done previously anyway ::)
And if you left a car taxed when selling, the only person who lost out was the buyer, and iirc, you could only cash in a minimum of three months, whereas now it is all refunded apart from the current month, so you actually lose less ;)
And if it's the cost of convenience, then so be it...
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In the previous system, how did the buyer lose out when buying a car that had a few months of tax left? ??? :-\
You could get a refund on any complete months outstanding so the minimum refund would have been for one month, which remains the case. ;)
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If you follow the new rules to the letter, then both the Seller and the Buyer end up paying for the Tax twice in the same month every time a car is sold, so Gov get a double bubble for that month.
Only real way around it is, for the sale transaction date to be on Midnight of the last day of any month, so the Seller gets next months refund and Buyer starts his Tax.
Which could have been done previously anyway ::)
And if you left a car taxed when selling, the only person who lost out was the buyer, and iirc, you could only cash in a minimum of three months, whereas now it is all refunded apart from the current month, so you actually lose less ;)
And if it's the cost of convenience, then so be it...
Yea, Im not really disputing who loses out Al, the way I looked at things on the old system was if you bought a car with Tax and Test then that added a value to the sale of the car, or as we know some sellers would say Im cashing the Tax in after I sell, so He maybe lose some days.
The bit, under the new system, which I think is unfair, is, in theory the car needs to be Taxed twice in the same month by the Seller and the Buyer.
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The bit, under the new system, which I think is unfair, is, in theory the car needs to be Taxed twice in the same month by the Seller and the Buyer.
Which in this day and age is out of order in my opinion, as it couldn't have too difficult to do it on a daily basis rather than monthly! >:(
I've got a bee in my bonnet about that!! >:( ;D
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The bit, under the new system, which I think is unfair, is, in theory the car needs to be Taxed twice in the same month by the Seller and the Buyer.
Which in this day and age is out of order in my opinion, as it couldn't have too difficult to do it on a daily basis rather than monthly! >:(
I've got a bee in my bonnet about that!! >:( ;D
Exactly, they have a system in place, ready to fine you, if a car is on the road without tax for less than 24 hours, but the system cant supposedly cope with counting the days left for a refund.
In a nutshell, every 'on the road' car thats sold every year, Gov gets 13 months income for 12 months Tax. Or more if it passes hands in that year.