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Title: Paying a Spanish speeding fine.
Post by: chrisgixer on 10 May 2015, 16:32:18
Bro in law got a fine through in the post in Spain, but had to fly home before paying it. €100 for 107kmh in a 100 limit. ::)

Needless to say the web site is all in Spanish, as is the phone line and its numerous options, and can't use a Spanish post office until he returns. Which he does on a regular basis. But not for a month or two, possibly more.  So needs to pay it by all accounts. Google translate only helps on the non secure pages afaict. The rest is Unfathomable, and not certified so not completely certain it's we aren't paying into a spoof site tbh.

Any advice please? Don't want this mounting up for him. I think the discount for early payment has passed as well.
Title: Re: Paying a Spanish speeding fine.
Post by: chrisgixer on 10 May 2015, 16:33:38
This appears to be the site in question...?
https://sede.dgt.gob.es/es/
Title: Re: Paying a Spanish speeding fine.
Post by: Shackeng on 10 May 2015, 16:34:35
This appears to be the site in question...?
https://sede.dgt.gob.es/es/

I should PM Varche or Omegatoy, I'm sure they would help. :y
Title: Re: Paying a Spanish speeding fine.
Post by: chrisgixer on 10 May 2015, 16:38:56
That's my thinking Shak tbh. But I'll wait until they're on. Don't want to pester. :)

It's a bugger though. Maybe, as the site is Spanish only, the fine only applies to Spanish nationals. As opposed to visitors. :) ....or maybe not ;D
Title: Re: Paying a Spanish speeding fine.
Post by: Shackeng on 10 May 2015, 16:54:02
That's my thinking Shak tbh. But I'll wait until they're on. Don't want to pester. :)

It's a bugger though. Maybe, as the site is Spanish only, the fine only applies to Spanish nationals. As opposed to visitors. :) ....or maybe not ;D

You wish! ;D
Title: Re: Paying a Spanish speeding fine.
Post by: 4x4 on 10 May 2015, 18:52:04
He should have brought a black omega  ;D
Title: Re: Paying a Spanish speeding fine.
Post by: Jusme on 10 May 2015, 18:55:55
Aviso importante  This section explains that if you are using the latest version of Chrome in your browser it disables the functions in Java which are needed to complete this form.. If you click on 'aqui' it explains (in Spanish) how to deal with this.
Title: Re: Paying a Spanish speeding fine.
Post by: Varche on 10 May 2015, 18:59:30
back a bit later with some info

Although the site comes up as don't trust , they all do and are "safe".
Title: Re: Paying a Spanish speeding fine.
Post by: Kevin Wood on 10 May 2015, 19:11:46
back a bit later with some info

Although the site comes up as don't trust , they all do and are "safe".

Spanish government too skint to cough up for an SSL certificate, then?  ;D
Title: Re: Paying a Spanish speeding fine.
Post by: chrisgixer on 10 May 2015, 19:47:15
Looks like we may have made some progress.
Title: Re: Paying a Spanish speeding fine.
Post by: chrisgixer on 10 May 2015, 19:52:20
Paid. Bloody hell that was an epic.

Thanks all. :y
Title: Re: Paying a Spanish speeding fine.
Post by: biggriffin on 10 May 2015, 20:28:01
How comes when it comes to fines,for minor offences,governments are all over it,swapping information etc, but when it comes to sending foreign nationals home after being found guilty of a proper offence,the human rights act kicks in? :o is it me!!!
Title: Re: Paying a Spanish speeding fine.
Post by: chrisgixer on 10 May 2015, 21:27:50
Yes!
Title: Re: Paying a Spanish speeding fine.
Post by: Varche on 10 May 2015, 21:45:33
Glad it is sorted .

This pearl of wisdom sums it up for your Bil or indeed any other sinner.

This should take you directly to the page for paying fines without a digital signature:

https://sedeapl.dgt.gob.es:7443/WEB_Sanciones/jsp/sincertificado/identificacionPagador.jsf

but you will have to allow security exceptions.

There is a help page here:

https://sedeapl.dgt.gob.es:7443/IWPS/help/sincertificado_en.html (in English)


If all else fails try making the payment in a Bank of Santander. This is the bank through which you can pay in Spain but I am not sure if the facility extends to UK branches.

Kevin - Happens on all the Spanish Government type web sites...I'd be more concerned if they came up "clean"... ; :o Spain may look third world in may areas but it is pretty hooked up on computing. Just two examples. Repeat prescriptions. You just go to a Pharmacy in your province and show them your health card and pay. Have an accident or visit a different doctor and hospital and your records including Xrays, treatment is there online. Mind you to let the side down, some banks only allow payment of council tax between 9 and 10.30 a.m. The mind boggles.

Anyone holidaying in Spain . - Like Britain they have cottoned onto the money making  safety possibilities of speed cameras. In fairness they publish the positions of fixed cameras. sat nav devices (well ours anyway) are not at all reliable. A 70 mile stretch i go on tomorrow has THREE but Tom Tom only knows vaguely where one is. It also isn't accurate on the speed limits.e.g. it thinks an 80 section is 100.
If you hire a car in Spain, any speeding fines are usually paid by the hire car company via your credit card once you are back in the UK.
Title: Re: Paying a Spanish speeding fine.
Post by: chrisgixer on 10 May 2015, 21:51:10
Nice one V :y
Title: Re: Paying a Spanish speeding fine.
Post by: Kevin Wood on 10 May 2015, 22:42:20
Kevin - Happens on all the Spanish Government type web sites...

That's daft, as it gives the punter no protection against man in the middle attacks and phoney web site posing as government sites.. guess they just don't care.
Title: Re: Paying a Spanish speeding fine.
Post by: chrisgixer on 10 May 2015, 23:11:59
Indeed, there was a spoof web site H got caught on replacing her/our e111.

Charged her £11 for the privilege, when the official web site is free.
Title: Re: Paying a Spanish speeding fine.
Post by: Varche on 11 May 2015, 11:34:41
Footnote

You can contest fines for up to and including 7percent up to 100kmh . You still have to pay the fine first.

If your Bil is game then when I get proper int access I all post the details. Worth a punt for 100 euros (about £12)
Title: Re: Paying a Spanish speeding fine.
Post by: chrisgixer on 11 May 2015, 13:14:13
Thanks V I'd be interested to see how to contest it. :)
Title: Re: Paying a Spanish speeding fine.
Post by: Varche on 12 May 2015, 09:14:38
Chris , have sent you a pm.
Title: Re: Paying a Spanish speeding fine.
Post by: chrisgixer on 12 May 2015, 13:24:54
Thanks Varche. Will study further tonight. Good stuff :y
Title: Re: Paying a Spanish speeding fine.
Post by: chrisgixer on 13 May 2015, 20:53:41
Chris , have sent you a pm.

Bah. Seems there was a Typo in his text. It was actually 117kmh.

Surprising, as he's certain he didn't pass it at that speed. Knows where it is as well.
Title: Re: Paying a Spanish speeding fine.
Post by: Varche on 14 May 2015, 08:31:53
look on the bright side, boost to the Guardia Civil policemans pension! ;D