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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: biggriffin on 07 June 2015, 16:17:24
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might be of intrest to some
http://www.ukhs.tv/Home?search=24v+impact+wrench (http://www.ukhs.tv/Home?search=24v+impact+wrench) :)
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Would want to know the charger spec. personally. At that price range they often don't time out when the battery is fully charged and carry on to cook the battery.
And a progressive trigger is desirable. Interesting though :y
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Its the same as the sealey one, and the charger switches off when charged, and fully charged undid flange nuts.
Progressive trigger..its a windy gun undo or do up,job done ;)
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Interestingly it's 1p cheaper to buy the spare battery separately instead of the package
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Interestingly it's 1p cheaper to buy the spare battery separately instead of the package
Bargin. ;D
Was going to get the battery to use on my sealy one.
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might be of intrest to some
http://www.ukhs.tv/Home?search=24v+impact+wrench (http://www.ukhs.tv/Home?search=24v+impact+wrench) :)
Thanks a lot :P, could have posted this up earlier ::), just went and bought a new one today for 80 something quid :-\
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Its the same as the sealey one, and the charger switches off when charged, and fully charged undid flange nuts.
Progressive trigger..its a windy gun undo or do up,job done ;)
Yeeeeah, and strip the threads out the hub twice as quick. It greatly helps to be able to slowly start the nut turning.
Although I do admire the on off throttle/switch mentality. TB will be proud of you. Although not with that particular tyre combo though. ;) ;D
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Its the same as the sealey one, and the charger switches off when charged, and fully charged undid flange nuts.
Progressive trigger..its a windy gun undo or do up,job done ;)
Yeeeeah, and strip the threads out the hub twice as quick. It greatly helps to be able to slowly start the nut turning.
Although I do admire the on off throttle/switch mentality. TB will be proud of you. Although not with that particular tyre combo though. ;) ;D
Your wrong there Chris, it actually strips the threads five times quicker :P
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Its the same as the sealey one, and the charger switches off when charged, and fully charged undid flange nuts.
Progressive trigger..its a windy gun undo or do up,job done ;)
Yeeeeah, and strip the threads out the hub twice as quick. It greatly helps to be able to slowly start the nut turning.
Although I do admire the on off throttle/switch mentality. TB will be proud of you. Although not with that particular tyre combo though. ;) ;D
Your wrong there Chris, it actually strips the threads five times quicker :P
Mine isn't progressive, sadly, so I knows it's only twice as bad, Mr Dundee! Just twice, and not a penny more. Nout but accurate in oppsin up threads me! ;D
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Its the same as the sealey one, and the charger switches off when charged, and fully charged undid flange nuts.
Progressive trigger..its a windy gun undo or do up,job done ;)
Yeeeeah, and strip the threads out the hub twice as quick. It greatly helps to be able to slowly start the nut turning.
Although I do admire the on off throttle/switch mentality. TB will be proud of you. Although not with that particular tyre combo though. ;) ;D
Your wrong there Chris, it actually strips the threads five times quicker :P
Mine isn't progressive, sadly, so I knows it's only twice as bad, Mr Dundee! Just twice, and not a penny more. Nout but accurate in oppsin up threads me! ;D
, so I know
Look now 8), I googled it before replying so I kind of think it is right, after all the answer was on one those intelligent websites :y
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Was it www.blokesaiddowntpub.com :)....if so I know it well ;D
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Its the same as the sealey one, and the charger switches off when charged, and fully charged undid flange nuts.
Progressive trigger..its a windy gun undo or do up,job done ;)
And the Clarke one (bar the colour).
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Pm sent
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8) :y
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Good price. Be good to hear feedback on it.
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Good price. Be good to hear feedback on it.
:'(
I have the sealey one,which is identical,to the wolf one in the linky,and find it adequate for my needs,and that was £120. 5years ago,battery is,getting tired now
It will even undo bottle's of water without damage :o
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I'm currently testing a 18v impact gun which claims better specifications than that one. The model I am testing says it has more torque, it's Li-Ion batteries, variable trigger, belt clip and a surprising useful LED.
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Good price. Be good to hear feedback on it.
Its identical to my Clarke one that you have used (before I melted it, but I did replace it). I don't use it any more due to a really poor charger, and the Black & Decker DeWalt is more powerful, smaller and has a variable trigger (and LED, just for deviator :P)
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Thanks. Worth getting then. Birthday soon, so think I'll be asking for cash.
should have got one ages ago, need to make things easier ;D
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Thanks. Worth getting then. Birthday soon, so think I'll be asking for cash.
should have got one ages ago, need to make things easier ;D
There are far better ones available for similar money if you can find one that matches your battery set. I think I paid around £70 for my upmarket Black&Decker, body only.
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Thanks. Worth getting then. Birthday soon, so think I'll be asking for cash.
should have got one ages ago, need to make things easier ;D
There are far better ones available for similar money if you can find one that matches your battery set. I think I paid around £70 for my upmarket Black&Decker, body only.
I don't think anything will match my Matika drill set, think they are only 12v too :-\
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Scratch that, I'm talking crap.
Just checked, my Makita drill batteries of which I already have two are 18v/1.3Ah.
Type is PA18.
Can they be used on impact gun? :-\
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Thanks. Worth getting then. Birthday soon, so think I'll be asking for cash.
should have got one ages ago, need to make things easier ;D
There are far better ones available for similar money if you can find one that matches your battery set. I think I paid around £70 for my upmarket Black&Decker, body only.
I don't think anything will match my Matika drill set, think they are only 12v too :-\
You been drinking again Tunnie ;D
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Scratch that, I'm talking crap.
Just checked, my Makita drill batteries of which I already have two are 18v/1.3Ah.
Type is PA18.
Can they be used on impact gun? :-\
Look to see what Makita sold 5yrs ago, and then see if you can still pick one up
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That said, I think Makita aim themselves more a pouncy home diy/decorating, so you may be shit out of luck
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In luck it appears...
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Makita-6936FDZ-Cordless-Impact-Driver/dp/B000IF2TX8 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Makita-6936FDZ-Cordless-Impact-Driver/dp/B000IF2TX8)
Lists PA18, which is what I have :)
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In luck it appears...
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Makita-6936FDZ-Cordless-Impact-Driver/dp/B000IF2TX8 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Makita-6936FDZ-Cordless-Impact-Driver/dp/B000IF2TX8)
Lists PA18, which is what I have :)
No, that's an Impact Driver, which is something completely different (putting screws in)
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My Makita impact gun is the dogs 'dangle berries'. It cost a shed load. But bears the snap on equivalent one of the mechanics has.
Battery is 4.0aph and lasts forever. Gun is 18v I think. Makitas 'ion' lithium type thing
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My Makita impact gun is the dogs 'dangle berries'. It cost a shed load. But bears the snap on equivalent one of the mechanics has.
Battery is 4.0aph and lasts forever. Gun is 18v I think. Makitas 'ion' lithium type thing
Linky for the useless student?
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My Makita impact gun is the dogs 'dangle berries'. It cost a shed load. But bears the snap on equivalent one of the mechanics has.
Battery is 4.0aph and lasts forever. Gun is 18v I think. Makitas 'ion' lithium type thing
Linky for the useless student?
I thought students were all hackers and computer geniuses? ::)
;D give me a sec...
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Here she is...
http://www.makitauk.com/products/cordless-tools/impact-wrenches/all-cordless-impact-wrenches/dtw450z-18v-impact-wrench.html
When looking around for packages inc. batteries look for the 4.0ah ones. Ten mins charging from empty and last forever.
As said yes they are damn expensive. But I was investing. And the batteries you can use on other stuff you may buy in the future (like the impact driver that I'm currently considering )
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Easy for me to say because I don't pay for them (the company does) but Makita now do a 5.0 Ah Li-ion battery. Cost isn't dramatically more, but certainly with SDS drill and Impact Gun they are a marked improvement. :y
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Here she is...
http://www.makitauk.com/products/cordless-tools/impact-wrenches/all-cordless-impact-wrenches/dtw450z-18v-impact-wrench.html
When looking around for packages inc. batteries look for the 4.0ah ones. Ten mins charging from empty and last forever.
As said yes they are damn expensive. But I was investing. And the batteries you can use on other stuff you may buy in the future (like the impact driver that I'm currently considering )
I don't think that matches tunnies battery type (ages since I've seen his drill stuff), so probably will end up as unviable.
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Here she is...
http://www.makitauk.com/products/cordless-tools/impact-wrenches/all-cordless-impact-wrenches/dtw450z-18v-impact-wrench.html
When looking around for packages inc. batteries look for the 4.0ah ones. Ten mins charging from empty and last forever.
As said yes they are damn expensive. But I was investing. And the batteries you can use on other stuff you may buy in the future (like the impact driver that I'm currently considering )
No variable speed either? Disappointing on a £200 tool :(
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Here she is...
http://www.makitauk.com/products/cordless-tools/impact-wrenches/all-cordless-impact-wrenches/dtw450z-18v-impact-wrench.html
When looking around for packages inc. batteries look for the 4.0ah ones. Ten mins charging from empty and last forever.
As said yes they are damn expensive. But I was investing. And the batteries you can use on other stuff you may buy in the future (like the impact driver that I'm currently considering )
No variable speed either? Disappointing on a £200 tool :(
True. But I don't need that.
There is not one bad thing I can say about it. I've dropped it from height more than 5 times now and still just goes
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In luck it appears...
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Makita-6936FDZ-Cordless-Impact-Driver/dp/B000IF2TX8 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Makita-6936FDZ-Cordless-Impact-Driver/dp/B000IF2TX8)
Lists PA18, which is what I have :)
No, that's an Impact Driver, which is something completely different (putting screws in)
Balls. Thought to good to be true.
Webbys one would be out of budget for me
*researches more.
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Don't think any of the range fits my batteries, hence going for something else.
My batteries are only 1.3Ah and they struggle as it is with standard drill work.
One in the original link, is temping. Unless others can recommend better for the money, but needs to include battery(s)
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Bit late to the party but it appears the one originally posted is near identical to my clarke one
http://www.tool-net.co.uk/p-372731/clarke-cir220.html?gclid=Cj0KEQjw-tSrBRCk8bzDiO__gbwBEiQAk-D31bRJbcSpWcvV37eFIKTPKgAU027J5ajvbDdkbDdv_5YaAiQt8P8HAQ
I was a bit dissapointed with it's power but it has improved after a few cycles of charging, got it on a VAT free day obviously
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Bit late to the party but it appears the one originally posted is near identical to my clarke one
http://www.tool-net.co.uk/p-372731/clarke-cir220.html?gclid=Cj0KEQjw-tSrBRCk8bzDiO__gbwBEiQAk-D31bRJbcSpWcvV37eFIKTPKgAU027J5ajvbDdkbDdv_5YaAiQt8P8HAQ
I was a bit dissapointed with it's power but it has improved after a few cycles of charging, got it on a VAT free day obviously
The Clarke ones massively overstate their torque capabilitys. Mine is supposed to be 450Nm, but not a patch on my 200Nm DeWalt one.
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My hitachi, TB's Clarke and De Walt, all struggle to undo a 110nm omega wheel bolt, unless the battery is absolutely tip top fully charged. Iirc
If the wheel nut is slightly over torqued or hasn't been off for a good while, mine will likely fail to undo. Fairly sure TB's are similar..?
Point being, this one will most likely need the wheel nuts loosening off first.
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My hitachi, TB's Clarke and De Walt, all struggle to undo a 110nm omega wheel bolt, unless the battery is absolutely tip top fully charged. Iirc
If the wheel nut is slightly over torqued or hasn't been off for a good while, mine will likely fail to undo. Fairly sure TB's are similar..?
Point being, this one will most likely need the wheel nuts loosening off first.
My current Ryobi, plus the Sealey and God knows what brand it was cheapy I had before all claim over 200nm, but struggle to do wheelnuts. That's before we get to the 3/8 drive Dewalt I bought and have hardly used because it isn't as useful as it looked.
But this is also true of air impacts, and those also require a decent compressor and appropriate hose and connectors which further blurs any comparison. The standard size 1/2" Mac that the fitter at work bought is seriously impressive, but it was nearly £400!
I find myself considering the 18v Mac BWP 050 cordless impact, which claims 983Nm but the price is very hard to justify.
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Yes true, my windy also struggles.
,..although if there is to be struggling I'd rather struggle without the faff of a hose and a load of racket from a pump. So no surprise that I haven't used my windy for years.
Hitachagazmagizmo, though, comes out on almost every job. ;D I love it. :y
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Here she is...
http://www.makitauk.com/products/cordless-tools/impact-wrenches/all-cordless-impact-wrenches/dtw450z-18v-impact-wrench.html
When looking around for packages inc. batteries look for the 4.0ah ones. Ten mins charging from empty and last forever.
As said yes they are damn expensive. But I was investing. And the batteries you can use on other stuff you may buy in the future (like the impact driver that I'm currently considering )
Sadly the battery wont given such a charging regime :y
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Screw fix are doing de Walt cordless 18vli drill for £140 odd. £200 with impact driver (not wrench) if anyone needs it?
Then just buy the impact wrench body to match those batteries. £60/80 maybe.
More money but much smaller body, lighter and more powerful, and more tools available I suspect.
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Here she is...
http://www.makitauk.com/products/cordless-tools/impact-wrenches/all-cordless-impact-wrenches/dtw450z-18v-impact-wrench.html
When looking around for packages inc. batteries look for the 4.0ah ones. Ten mins charging from empty and last forever.
As said yes they are damn expensive. But I was investing. And the batteries you can use on other stuff you may buy in the future (like the impact driver that I'm currently considering )
Sadly the battery wont given such a charging regime :y
I simply stick it on charge, when it's green light it's done :y
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Here she is...
http://www.makitauk.com/products/cordless-tools/impact-wrenches/all-cordless-impact-wrenches/dtw450z-18v-impact-wrench.html
When looking around for packages inc. batteries look for the 4.0ah ones. Ten mins charging from empty and last forever.
As said yes they are damn expensive. But I was investing. And the batteries you can use on other stuff you may buy in the future (like the impact driver that I'm currently considering )
Sadly the battery wont given such a charging regime :y
I simply stick it on charge, when it's green light it's done :y
What Mark means is that if your charger really is doing the business in 10 mins the battery will have a very short lifespan.
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Really. How come? I've had it almost a year and seems ok still :-\
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My hitachi, TB's Clarke and De Walt, all struggle to undo a 110nm omega wheel bolt, unless the battery is absolutely tip top fully charged. Iirc
If the wheel nut is slightly over torqued or hasn't been off for a good while, mine will likely fail to undo. Fairly sure TB's are similar..?
Point being, this one will most likely need the wheel nuts loosening off first.
The Clarke struggles (claimed 450Nm - so a lot more than the cheaper Clarke 200Nm one, and I suspect the same as original link) with wheelbolts unless just done up fairly recently. The B&D one does fair better, and usually will eventually undo any wheelbolt.... ....or go flat trying ;D
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Really. How come? I've had it almost a year and seems ok still :-\
It'll be fine Webster - Li-ion do not suffer like MiMh or NiCd. You can charge your batteries as the Makita charger see's fit, and they'll last a good while.
10minutes form flat is a bit sharp though for a 4.0Ah battery. If it's flat, should be more like 30 minutes.
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Really. How come? I've had it almost a year and seems ok still :-\
It'll be fine Webster - Li-ion do not suffer like MiMh or NiCd. You can charge your batteries as the Makita charger see's fit, and they'll last a good while.
10minutes form flat is a bit sharp though for a 4.0Ah battery. If it's flat, should be more like 30 minutes.
Cheers mate :)
Maybe I got the time wrong. Just for the shits and giggles I'll time it tomorrow :y
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Li-ion do suffer the same, to charge a battery in ten minutes from flat at that capacity it will be trying to stick in excess of 24A in! Worse still, such a fast charge will heat the battery up which is a real killer for Li-ion (worse than any other battery technology)
Plus you have the approx. 500 charge ceiling to so always make sure its flat before charging
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Li-ion do suffer the same, to charge a battery in ten minutes from flat at that capacity it will be trying to stick in excess of 24A in! Worse still, such a fast charge will heat the battery up which is a real killer for Li-ion (worse than any other battery technology)
Plus you have the approx. 500 charge ceiling to so always make sure its flat before charging
On a good day with the most modern tech. Tools tend to be less up to date, and the chargers quite poor...
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Hitachi charger seems very good to me. Cooling fan, cuts out once charged, short charge is proportionate to the amount of discharge. Plus, I suppose, the proof is in how long the batteries are lasting.
I've spend the last two year eyeing up replacements expecting the batteries to die any minute now. But they just keep plodding on. Power of the impact gun is, afaict, almost exactly the same after each charge, given I always torque wheel nuts to 110nm. The gun always struggles to the exact same level after each undoing.
So I guess the batteries are still in good nic...?
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Hitachi charger seems very good to me. Cooling fan, cuts out once charged, short charge is proportionate to the amount of discharge. Plus, I suppose, the proof is in how long the batteries are lasting.
I've spend the last two year eyeing up replacements expecting the batteries to die any minute now. But they just keep plodding on. Power of the impact gun is, afaict, almost exactly the same after each charge, given I always torque wheel nuts to 110nm. The gun always struggles to the exact same level after each undoing.
So I guess the batteries are still in good nic...?
They ain't LiIon, so the charger can be more barbaric (and Hitachi chargers are, having fixed a couple).
Not picking on Hitachi, they are no worse than most others, though with a weakness on the final transistor, and its driving transistor. The fan, I suspect, is to help cool these bipolar devices, and probably a very late addition into the design.
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Really? What are they then?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B000JESSTW
Different charger, perhaps, to the one you saw, possibly.... Just a little bit....? :)
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Ok, checked charging time. Hasn't been charged for two weeks and has had at least 6 days of hardcore use.
Took 38 minutes. So a bit off of my 10 minute claim :-[
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Yes, the charger cooling fan is to cool the charger not the batteries. :y