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Title: Fuel prices forcing car sales??
Post by: master-sambo on 08 July 2008, 19:19:01
Anyone else feel like parting with their car for something that runs a fair bit more economically??

At an average of 29.9mpg since I have had her (6 months), I am finding the rising fuel costs a tad crippling, and as such am considering selling my rather lovely Omega for something a little less juicy.  Fuel has gone up over 20% since I bought the car, it's way beyond a joke now.
Title: Re: Fuel prices forcing car sales??
Post by: albitz on 08 July 2008, 19:20:28
it may be worth considering lpg conversion. :y
Title: Re: Fuel prices forcing car sales??
Post by: psychnurse on 08 July 2008, 19:21:22
No... the wife can go... so can the dog! But the migs stay  ;D
Title: Re: Fuel prices forcing car sales??
Post by: albitz on 08 July 2008, 19:22:31
priorities  :y ;D
Title: Re: Fuel prices forcing car sales??
Post by: Debs. on 08 July 2008, 19:24:18
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No... the wife can go... so can the dog! But the migs stay  ;D

 :o The other two I might understand; but the dog!...`how could you? ;D
Title: Re: Fuel prices forcing car sales??
Post by: master-sambo on 08 July 2008, 19:25:21
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No... the wife can go... so can the dog! But the migs stay  ;D
Ha!

See I have grown to love the mig.  When I got it, I was apprehensive.  But the comfort and space have become too good to lose.  HOWEVER, fuel is my single biggest expense per month bar none.  I need to reduce the cost without large expense.  Now the LPG idea did cross my mind, but the initial cost makes it an unviable option right now :(
Title: Re: Fuel prices forcing car sales??
Post by: psychnurse on 08 July 2008, 19:26:54
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No... the wife can go... so can the dog! But the migs stay  ;D

 :o The other two I might understand; but the dog!...`how could you? ;D



Well yes that was a bit outragous! But my bitch (Ruby) has jut eaten my sweeties. I have sweets when ill... positive renforcoment from childhood.
Though they do say dogs are like their owners....  ;D
Title: Re: Fuel prices forcing car sales??
Post by: psychnurse on 08 July 2008, 19:27:46
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No... the wife can go... so can the dog! But the migs stay  ;D
Ha!

See I have grown to love the mig.  When I got it, I was apprehensive.  But the comfort and space have become too good to lose.  HOWEVER, fuel is my single biggest expense per month bar none.  I need to reduce the cost without large expense.  Now the LPG idea did cross my mind, but the initial cost makes it an unviable option right now :(




A mig tractor??
Title: Re: Fuel prices forcing car sales??
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 08 July 2008, 19:34:34
Your lucky at 29.9mpg av , my comp reckons im averaging 19mpg  :o
Tho that is on lpg mind....goes up a tad on petrol.

Tho i do a lot of town work.....av speed is usually 19mph.

Im no better off now running an omega on lpg than running a diesel.

I used to be able to get lpg for 30ppl......now im paying 59ppl

Ive chatted to a mate......who runs a VW passat 1.9TD Auto as a taxi........he works roughly the same hours a me......he bungs in £20 of diesel a day........i use £20 of lpg a day.....so no advantage to me anymore.  :(

End of November or sooner......my omega will be for sale.....its got until then left on its plating.....then im going back to diesel.
Title: Re: Fuel prices forcing car sales??
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 08 July 2008, 19:40:27
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No... the wife can go... so can the dog! But the migs stay  ;D
Ha!

See I have grown to love the mig.  When I got it, I was apprehensive.  But the comfort and space have become too good to lose.  HOWEVER, fuel is my single biggest expense per month bar none.  I need to reduce the cost without large expense.  Now the LPG idea did cross my mind, but the initial cost makes it an unviable option right now :(




A mig tractor??

I caught the tail end of a program last week.....not sure which one.

Bloke was straining used cooking through what looked like a J cloth......added some chemical to it.......and bunged in straight into the tank of a diesel.....

He did say you have to add a £3 filter to the tank, presumably before the main diesel filter and that you have to change it every 1k miles...

Wonder what the chemical was  ::)

Interesting  ::)
Title: Re: Fuel prices forcing car sales??
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 08 July 2008, 19:59:33
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No... the wife can go... so can the dog! But the migs stay  ;D
Ha!

See I have grown to love the mig.  When I got it, I was apprehensive.  But the comfort and space have become too good to lose.  HOWEVER, fuel is my single biggest expense per month bar none.  I need to reduce the cost without large expense.  Now the LPG idea did cross my mind, but the initial cost makes it an unviable option right now :(




A mig tractor??

I caught the tail end of a program last week.....not sure which one.

Bloke was straining used cooking through what looked like a J cloth......added some chemical to it.......and bunged in straight into the tank of a diesel.....

He did say you have to add a £3 filter to the tank, presumably before the main diesel filter and that you have to change it every 1k miles...

Wonder what the chemical was  ::)

Interesting  ::)

Could this be it.   ::) :-/

(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk106/skruntie/231.jpg)
Title: Re: Fuel prices forcing car sales??
Post by: psychnurse on 08 July 2008, 20:05:39
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No... the wife can go... so can the dog! But the migs stay  ;D
Ha!

See I have grown to love the mig.  When I got it, I was apprehensive.  But the comfort and space have become too good to lose.  HOWEVER, fuel is my single biggest expense per month bar none.  I need to reduce the cost without large expense.  Now the LPG idea did cross my mind, but the initial cost makes it an unviable option right now :(




A mig tractor??

I caught the tail end of a program last week.....not sure which one.

Bloke was straining used cooking through what looked like a J cloth......added some chemical to it.......and bunged in straight into the tank of a diesel.....

He did say you have to add a £3 filter to the tank, presumably before the main diesel filter and that you have to change it every 1k miles...

Wonder what the chemical was  ::)

Interesting  ::)

Could this be it.   ::) :-/

(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk106/skruntie/231.jpg)





Ahh..... THAT secret chemical. Ye old guarded petrolium secret  ;D
Title: Re: Fuel prices forcing car sales??
Post by: Martin_1962 on 08 July 2008, 20:20:46
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Your lucky at 29.9mpg av , my comp reckons im averaging 19mpg  :o
Tho that is on lpg mind....goes up a tad on petrol.

Tho i do a lot of town work.....av speed is usually 19mph.

Im no better off now running an omega on lpg than running a diesel.

I used to be able to get lpg for 30ppl......now im paying 59ppl

Ive chatted to a mate......who runs a VW passat 1.9TD Auto as a taxi........he works roughly the same hours a me......he bungs in £20 of diesel a day........i use £20 of lpg a day.....so no advantage to me anymore.  :(

End of November or sooner......my omega will be for sale.....its got until then left on its plating.....then im going back to diesel.


He is driving a tractor - you are driving a nice petrol engine
Title: Re: Fuel prices forcing car sales??
Post by: Martin_1962 on 08 July 2008, 20:21:27
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No... the wife can go... so can the dog! But the migs stay  ;D
Ha!

See I have grown to love the mig.  When I got it, I was apprehensive.  But the comfort and space have become too good to lose.  HOWEVER, fuel is my single biggest expense per month bar none.  I need to reduce the cost without large expense.  Now the LPG idea did cross my mind, but the initial cost makes it an unviable option right now :(




A mig tractor??

I caught the tail end of a program last week.....not sure which one.

Bloke was straining used cooking through what looked like a J cloth......added some chemical to it.......and bunged in straight into the tank of a diesel.....

He did say you have to add a £3 filter to the tank, presumably before the main diesel filter and that you have to change it every 1k miles...

Wonder what the chemical was  ::)

Interesting  ::)

Could this be it.   ::) :-/

(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk106/skruntie/231.jpg)


He ISN'T a bee!
Title: Re: Fuel prices forcing car sales??
Post by: Martin_1962 on 08 July 2008, 20:22:19
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No... the wife can go... so can the dog! But the migs stay  ;D
Ha!

See I have grown to love the mig.  When I got it, I was apprehensive.  But the comfort and space have become too good to lose.  HOWEVER, fuel is my single biggest expense per month bar none.  I need to reduce the cost without large expense.  Now the LPG idea did cross my mind, but the initial cost makes it an unviable option right now :(

DIY

And I am paying 52.7p at the moment
Title: Re: Fuel prices forcing car sales??
Post by: Entwood on 08 July 2008, 20:33:29
Without going into the detail ....

Estimated petrol costs  = 26.37 pence /mile

Actual LPG costs = 15.73 pence / mile

Saving 10.64 pence / mile or 40.35%

So .. in 2 months, 1907 miles I have saved £202.83

The estimated costs are based on 18 mpg towing, 23 mpg solo and an AVERAGE cost of petrol of 118.9 pence/litre

To me it just proves I made the right decision, LPG is costing me 57.4 p/ltr locally, although on the way to the lakes meet I got it for 52.9 at Morrisons in Leyland
Title: Re: Fuel prices forcing car sales??
Post by: tunnie on 08 July 2008, 20:37:14
30mpg is quite respectable mpg, you won't get much more unless you go tin can size.

Talking Corsa / Punto ect, friend of mine has a 55 plate Punto, gets 50mpg everyware in it.

Its no omega though, when i go on holidays, my car has to be used as it can take 4 people and 4 lots of luggage.

Title: Re: Fuel prices forcing car sales??
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 08 July 2008, 20:43:48
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Anyone else feel like parting with their car for something that runs a fair bit more economically??

At an average of 29.9mpg since I have had her (6 months), I am finding the rising fuel costs a tad crippling, and as such am considering selling my rather lovely Omega for something a little less juicy.  Fuel has gone up over 20% since I bought the car, it's way beyond a joke now.

 :-? I wish ;D ;D ;D
No sorry but have bought a motorbike to hopefully save some money on fuel when going to work :y
Title: Re: Fuel prices forcing car sales??
Post by: Essex_Andy on 08 July 2008, 21:20:34
A common thing with lower mpg seems autos???

My 2.5 manual returns anything from 25 to 32 mpg depending on how I drive it.

The wife's 1.6 Focus averages mid to high 30s.

For the size weight  comfort available load space v 25 to 32mpg even at present costs etc I'm keeping my mig until Gormless Brown raises road taxes too high...then I might get a tax exempt 2500PI Estate and transplant Mig drive train!!!
Title: Re: Fuel prices forcing car sales??
Post by: Danny on 08 July 2008, 22:04:36
I have LPG, but will still be downgrading

i need to sacrifice the overall running costs, maintainence, tax and insurance, to invest in a nest for me and my lovely future-wife
Title: Re: Fuel prices forcing car sales??
Post by: Vamps on 08 July 2008, 22:08:08
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I have LPG, but will still be downgrading

i need to sacrifice the overall running costs, maintainence, tax and insurance, to invest in a nest for me and my lovely future-wife

But you have over 5000, makes you gay.
Or did you mean to say 'Partner'  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Fuel prices forcing car sales??
Post by: Debs. on 08 July 2008, 22:12:23
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I have LPG, but will still be downgrading

i need to sacrifice the overall running costs, maintainence, tax and insurance, to invest in a nest for me and my lovely future-wife

But you have over 5000, makes you gay.
Or did you mean to say 'Partner'  ;D ;D ;D

 :o You can`t say that Mike....it`s "Significant other" these days. ::)

Anyway, 'partner' sounds like what gay cowboys call each other! ;D
Title: Re: Fuel prices forcing car sales??
Post by: Vamps on 08 July 2008, 22:15:49
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I have LPG, but will still be downgrading

i need to sacrifice the overall running costs, maintainence, tax and insurance, to invest in a nest for me and my lovely future-wife

But you have over 5000, makes you gay.
Or did you mean to say 'Partner'  ;D ;D ;D

 :o You can`t say that Mike....it`s [i]"Significant other"[/i] these days. ::)

Anyway, 'partner' sounds like what gay cowboys call each other! ;D

Sorry, I should have know better. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Fuel prices forcing car sales??
Post by: theowletman on 08 July 2008, 22:23:14
I put £10 of diesel in yesterday, I got 7.2 litres, just over a gallon and a half. As much as I love Omegas the next one will have to be diesel, manual, a 2.2, and very cheap to buy. The oveall cost is very important and that includes the purchase price. Currently waiting on just such a car. I work in used car sales and nobody is buying big cars, consequently they are plummeting in value.
Title: Re: Fuel prices forcing car sales??
Post by: Essex_Andy on 08 July 2008, 23:16:35
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I work in used car sales and nobody is buying big cars, consequently they are plummeting in value.

I was a car sales exec and business manager from 2003 to 2006.

I miss the company car but sod all else....more money and less stress driving my petrol tanker!!!!!
Title: Re: Fuel prices forcing car sales??
Post by: HNO3GOH on 08 July 2008, 23:29:45
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Anyone else feel like parting with their car for something that runs a fair bit more economically??

At an average of 29.9mpg since I have had her (6 months), I am finding the rising fuel costs a tad crippling, and as such am considering selling my rather lovely Omega for something a little less juicy.  Fuel has gone up over 20% since I bought the car, it's way beyond a joke now.

Ride it out cos the fuel has to come down at some point. Some members may now think i am on the glue but i do think it will plus the bigger cars are not selling well at the mo so you could stand to loose a lot of money selling it just to buy a car that you might not like and try to save £10 a week on fuel.
Have a good long think about it but i can tell you now my two migs are staying :y
Title: Re: Fuel prices forcing car sales??
Post by: albitz on 09 July 2008, 01:40:56
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I work in used car sales and nobody is buying big cars, consequently they are plummeting in value.

I was a car sales exec and business manager from 2003 to 2006.

I miss the company car but sod all else....more money and less stress driving my petrol tanker!!!!!
any time your in the area andy call in for a cuppa,make sure your driving the tanker and i will make sure i have lots of 45 gallon drums in the garden. :y ;D
Title: Re: Fuel prices forcing car sales??
Post by: Richie London on 09 July 2008, 08:21:29
i refuse to change just so that smug ugly bast'd brown can get his own way, my rd tax is due end of this month, and im paying it, well i cant drive the car if i dont  ;D ;D ;D

im earning the same money i was 10 yrs ago, my bills arent the same as they were 10 yrs ago, im doing the same hrs, 84 a week, 14 on 2 off. and ive break all to show for it.  thanks labour  >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Fuel prices forcing car sales??
Post by: Richie London on 09 July 2008, 08:30:12
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I have LPG, but will still be downgrading

i need to sacrifice the overall running costs, maintainence, tax and insurance, to invest in a nest for me and my lovely future-wife

But you have over 5000, makes you gay.
Or did you mean to say 'Partner'  ;D ;D ;D

 :o You can`t say that Mike....it`s "Significant other" these days. ::)

Anyway, 'partner' sounds like what gay cowboys call each other! ;D

wasnt chief brown tongue well hung for rogering roy. or was it roy rogers  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Fuel prices forcing car sales??
Post by: Debs. on 09 July 2008, 08:41:08
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I have LPG, but will still be downgrading

i need to sacrifice the overall running costs, maintainence, tax and insurance, to invest in a nest for me and my lovely future-wife

But you have over 5000, makes you gay.
Or did you mean to say 'Partner'  ;D ;D ;D

 :o You can`t say that Mike....it`s "Significant other" these days. ::)

Anyway, 'partner' sounds like what gay cowboys call each other! ;D

wasnt chief brown tongue well hung for rogering roy. or was it roy rogers  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Yup! (?) ;D
Title: Re: Fuel prices forcing car sales??
Post by: bob.dent on 09 July 2008, 09:31:26
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Anyone else feel like parting with their car for something that runs a fair bit more economically??

At an average of 29.9mpg since I have had her (6 months), I am finding the rising fuel costs a tad crippling, and as such am considering selling my rather lovely Omega for something a little less juicy.  Fuel has gone up over 20% since I bought the car, it's way beyond a joke now.

Ride it out cos the fuel has to come down at some point. Some members may now think i am on the glue but i do think it will plus the bigger cars are not selling well at the mo so you could stand to loose a lot of money selling it just to buy a car that you might not like and try to save £10 a week on fuel.
Have a good long think about it but i can tell you now my two migs are staying :y

Trouble is I'm not so sure it will come down significantly and even if it did, you can bet your bottom dollar that the Chancellor would bang a few extra pence tax on it that he was planning to do anyway. >:(
Title: Re: Fuel prices forcing car sales??
Post by: Nickbat on 09 July 2008, 09:47:24
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Anyone else feel like parting with their car for something that runs a fair bit more economically??

At an average of 29.9mpg since I have had her (6 months), I am finding the rising fuel costs a tad crippling, and as such am considering selling my rather lovely Omega for something a little less juicy.  Fuel has gone up over 20% since I bought the car, it's way beyond a joke now.

Ride it out cos the fuel has to come down at some point. Some members may now think i am on the glue but i do think it will plus the bigger cars are not selling well at the mo so you could stand to loose a lot of money selling it just to buy a car that you might not like and try to save £10 a week on fuel.
Have a good long think about it but i can tell you now my two migs are staying :y

Trouble is I'm not so sure it will come down significantly and even if it did, you can bet your bottom dollar that the Chancellor would bang a few extra pence tax on it that he was planning to do anyway. >:(


Interesting article here: http://www.physorg.com/news134646313.html

Extract: "Since 2003, worldwide oil prices have quadrupled. According to a new study, the price of oil is rising at a faster-than-exponential rate, and cannot be sustained. In other words, we’re in the midst of an oil bubble, say researchers Didier Sornette and Ryan Woodard of ETH Zurich in Switzerland and Wei-Xing Zhou of the East China University of Science and Technology in Shanghai, China...

...A comparison of supply and demand showed that, most recently, supply has been exceeding demand by more than a half million barrels per day."

Yes, it IS a bubble. Question is, when will it burst?
Title: Re: Fuel prices forcing car sales??
Post by: psychnurse on 09 July 2008, 10:10:55
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Anyone else feel like parting with their car for something that runs a fair bit more economically??

At an average of 29.9mpg since I have had her (6 months), I am finding the rising fuel costs a tad crippling, and as such am considering selling my rather lovely Omega for something a little less juicy.  Fuel has gone up over 20% since I bought the car, it's way beyond a joke now.

Ride it out cos the fuel has to come down at some point. Some members may now think i am on the glue but i do think it will plus the bigger cars are not selling well at the mo so you could stand to loose a lot of money selling it just to buy a car that you might not like and try to save £10 a week on fuel.
Have a good long think about it but i can tell you now my two migs are staying :y

Trouble is I'm not so sure it will come down significantly and even if it did, you can bet your bottom dollar that the Chancellor would bang a few extra pence tax on it that he was planning to do anyway. >:(


Interesting article here: http://www.physorg.com/news134646313.html

Extract: "Since 2003, worldwide oil prices have quadrupled. According to a new study, the price of oil is rising at a faster-than-exponential rate, and cannot be sustained. In other words, we’re in the midst of an oil bubble, say researchers Didier Sornette and Ryan Woodard of ETH Zurich in Switzerland and Wei-Xing Zhou of the East China University of Science and Technology in Shanghai, China...

...A comparison of supply and demand showed that, most recently, supply has been exceeding demand by more than a half million barrels per day."

Yes, it IS a bubble. Question is, when will it burst?




Very soon... although I belive, and it is my opinion only that there is some kind of conspiracy surrounding the real reaons oil is highly priced. I question if stocks really are so low??? Just me being a distrusting duff ;)
Title: Re: Fuel prices forcing car sales??
Post by: JueV6 on 09 July 2008, 10:29:53
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Your lucky at 29.9mpg av , my comp reckons im averaging 19mpg  :o
Tho that is on lpg mind....goes up a tad on petrol.

Tho i do a lot of town work.....av speed is usually 19mph.

Im no better off now running an omega on lpg than running a diesel.

I used to be able to get lpg for 30ppl......now im paying 59ppl

Ive chatted to a mate......who runs a VW passat 1.9TD Auto as a taxi........he works roughly the same hours a me......he bungs in £20 of diesel a day........i use £20 of lpg a day.....so no advantage to me anymore.  :(

End of November or sooner......my omega will be for sale.....its got until then left on its plating.....then im going back to diesel.


my nearest forecourt is BP @ 59.9
I have 2 non forecourt within 2 miles and they are both 50p per litre

Try these TD
Dieselec t/a Gas & Go Ltd, Wiltshire
Unit N, Newcombe Drive, Hawksworth Trading Estate, Swindon, SN2 2DZ
hmmmmm maybe not i have just called them and they told me it's just gone up to 58.

or calor in swindon

Bridge End Road, Swindon, SN3 4PD
Surply: Off site
Opening Times: M-F 7am-5pm Sat 8am-12noon
Phone: 01793 613391

hope this helps
Title: Re: Fuel prices forcing car sales??
Post by: Nickbat on 09 July 2008, 11:13:06
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Anyone else feel like parting with their car for something that runs a fair bit more economically??

At an average of 29.9mpg since I have had her (6 months), I am finding the rising fuel costs a tad crippling, and as such am considering selling my rather lovely Omega for something a little less juicy.  Fuel has gone up over 20% since I bought the car, it's way beyond a joke now.

Ride it out cos the fuel has to come down at some point. Some members may now think i am on the glue but i do think it will plus the bigger cars are not selling well at the mo so you could stand to loose a lot of money selling it just to buy a car that you might not like and try to save £10 a week on fuel.
Have a good long think about it but i can tell you now my two migs are staying :y

Trouble is I'm not so sure it will come down significantly and even if it did, you can bet your bottom dollar that the Chancellor would bang a few extra pence tax on it that he was planning to do anyway. >:(


Interesting article here: http://www.physorg.com/news134646313.html

Extract: "Since 2003, worldwide oil prices have quadrupled. According to a new study, the price of oil is rising at a faster-than-exponential rate, and cannot be sustained. In other words, we’re in the midst of an oil bubble, say researchers Didier Sornette and Ryan Woodard of ETH Zurich in Switzerland and Wei-Xing Zhou of the East China University of Science and Technology in Shanghai, China...

...A comparison of supply and demand showed that, most recently, supply has been exceeding demand by more than a half million barrels per day."

Yes, it IS a bubble. Question is, when will it burst?




Very soon... although I belive, and it is my opinion only that there is some kind of conspiracy surrounding the real reaons oil is highly priced. I question if stocks really are so low??? Just me being a distrusting duff ;)

I would agree. The whole thing is tied into the global warming scam, through which lefties want to bring the western industrialised world to its knees. There is a very odd alliance between the hard lefties and people who want power and are making money out of it all. Al Gore, to name just one.
Title: Re: Fuel prices forcing car sales??
Post by: Dusty on 09 July 2008, 12:44:42
If i sell my Omega and buy a small car of the same age it will cost me 2 or 3 times as much to buy.
I would rather spend that money on petrol and tyres.