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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 18 June 2015, 15:50:56
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As the 2.8 V6 is such a lazy old hector a remap should be just what it needs to make it less pedestrian.
So far I've spoken with.
Superchips.
Quantum.
Celtic tuning.
Does anyone have personal experience of a remap, be it petrol or derv?
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Costs average out in the £300-£350 region.
This does not include rolling road (Dyno) 'before and after' power and torque figures.
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The only experience I have had was with another car club. We did a RR day, one of the guys with a diesel wanted his car remapping, being nosey I stopped around to see it done. His was dyno'ed before and after, although I don't remember the gains. The price was £150, although that was 2/3 years ago. From speaking to the guy, other companies use him to write maps for them.
I will add the following day the guy who had the remap had a problem. I was nearby anyway fixing another car and took a look for him. As you can imagine the owner of the car was less than impressed. I rang the guy from the remap place, who was insistent that it wasn't the remap, but he would drive 50 miles to where the car was to check it over for the owner the following day. I thought this was a shining example of good service. As it happens, I found a vacuum end had perished and cracked, a quick swap and the car was running great again.
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Costs average out in the £300-£350 region.
This does not include rolling road (Dyno) 'before and after' power and torque figures.
You won't forget to tell your insurance company........will you? ;D
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Costs average out in the £300-£350 region.
This does not include rolling road (Dyno) 'before and after' power and torque figures.
You won't forget to tell your insurance company........will you? ;D
My memory is not what it was. :)
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The only experience I have had was with another car club. We did a RR day, one of the guys with a diesel wanted his car remapping, being nosey I stopped around to see it done. His was dyno'ed before and after, although I don't remember the gains. The price was £150, although that was 2/3 years ago. From speaking to the guy, other companies use him to write maps for them.
I will add the following day the guy who had the remap had a problem. I was nearby anyway fixing another car and took a look for him. As you can imagine the owner of the car was less than impressed. I rang the guy from the remap place, who was insistent that it wasn't the remap, but he would drive 50 miles to where the car was to check it over for the owner the following day. I thought this was a shining example of good service. As it happens, I found a vacuum end had perished and cracked, a quick swap and the car was running great again.
Apparently turbo diesels give the best gains followed by turbo petrol.
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If you'd bought a decent car in the first place..... ::) ;D
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If you'd bought a decent the diesel car in the first place..... ::) ;D
fixed ::)
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If you'd bought a decent car in the first place..... ::) ;D
Quite nice to drive and very roomy. :y
The performance is adequate but you can tell it has a cork up it's arse that needs removing.
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If you'd bought a decent the diesel car in the first place..... ::) ;D
fixed ::)
derv......seminal juice of the devil. :D ;D
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If you'd bought a decent the diesel car in the first place..... ::) ;D
fixed ::)
derv......seminal juice of the devil. :D ;D
Yes,but with added torque :y :y ;)
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Have you tried dream science? i have spoken to this company in the past whilst at ford fair,and seem very good.
Also get an emissions test done after.
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Might consider swapping the slushbox for a proper gearbox whilst you're at it... ::)
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Check the max torque load of that gay fwd auto before going any further Dr.
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As I was interested, I Googled and found this interesting thread....
http://www.vxronline.co.uk/forum/archive/index.php/t-79276.html
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Might consider swapping the slushbox for a proper gearbox whilst you're at it... ::)
Wifey has to drive it so it has to be an auto.
Women get confused with manual gearboxes and clutches.
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As I was interested, I Googled and found this interesting thread....
http://www.vxronline.co.uk/forum/archive/index.php/t-79276.html
Interesting.
The gains are not so great they would blow the engine (or gearbox) to pieces. Hopefully. ::)
Stock......250 BHP......258 lb ft torque.
Remap...290/310 BHP.....335 lb ft torque.
In my opinion the remap figure is how it should have left the factory. :-\
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What would you like to know?
Bluefin is probably the most convenient. You get a handset that enables you to rewrite the map/return to stock as required. Plus you may be able to sell the unit on when you are finished with this car. Plus they have a 7 day refund policy if you are not satisfied.
The others sound like a single shot map, which may be the better choice if they are cheaper/you plan to keep the car for a prolonged period/are sure you will be happy with the end product..
Dreamscience do not cater for Vx except the VXR. But their reputation and service is very good. They are predominantly Ford tuners.
With most FWD turbo cars, remaps usually cause issues with the clutch slipping. Especially if it has been previously abused. Drive shafts can go, Ford are particularly notorious for this.
Insurance will go up and most mainstream insurers will refuse to cover the remap. Use someone like Chris Knott or Sky to get better prices.
Link (http://www.mybluefin.co.uk/search?make=37&fueltype=3&model=392&variant=1836)
Edit: Pre and post dyno results are usually a great way for tuner to get more money from you. Results are usually operator dependent, highly variable and of very little use other than bragging rights.
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If I were to have my 1.4 99bhp Astra remapped, the increase in power would be a mahoosive 9bhp, taking me to 108.
I'm not sure I could handle that sort of poke, so I'll leave well alone.
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Check the max torque load of that gay fwd auto before going any further Dr.
Good point I seem to recall that my Signum's 3.0 oiler was reined in a bit to accommodate the aisin Warner slushbox
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Certainly the Vec VXRs were detuned at the factory if fitted with the grotbox... The manual is bordrrline in a full fat one :-\
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There have been several discussions on the signum auto over the years iirc. Most come on the used market at about 60k it seems.
Or am I being unfair? Certainly front wheel drive auto is compromised given the space available between the end of the crank and front wheel. Ie about half that of a rear wheel drive box. Therefor the drive line has to be offset, which means a weakness straight away.
There "may" be room for more power, but it will almost certainly affect the life of the box eventually.
Anyway, all I'm saying is do some research first. The petrol "may" have more leeway....or NOT.
Fixing it means engine out and £1000 to £1600 bill at a guess?
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If I were to have my 1.4 99bhp Astra remapped, the increase in power would be a mahoosive 9bhp, taking me to 108.
I'm not sure I could handle that sort of poke, so I'll leave well alone.
Is the 1.4 Astra without a Turbo? :-\
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If I were to have my 1.4 99bhp Astra remapped, the increase in power would be a mahoosive 9bhp, taking me to 108.
I'm not sure I could handle that sort of poke, so I'll leave well alone.
Is the 1.4 Astra without a Turbo? :-\
God, you're quick. ;D
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There have been several discussions on the signum auto over the years iirc. Most come on the used market at about 60k it seems.
Or am I being unfair? Certainly front wheel drive auto is compromised given the space available between the end of the crank and front wheel. Ie about half that of a rear wheel drive box. Therefor the drive line has to be offset, which means a weakness straight away.
There "may" be room for more power, but it will almost certainly affect the life of the box eventually.
Anyway, all I'm saying is do some research first. The petrol "may" have more leeway....or NOT.
Fixing it means engine out and £1000 to £1600 bill at a guess?
My old Siggy is on 140k now and the gearbox is still sweet,its done some caravan tugging too before its time with me
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If I were to have my 1.4 99bhp Astra remapped, the increase in power would be a mahoosive 9bhp, taking me to 108.
I'm not sure I could handle that sort of poke, so I'll leave well alone.
Is the 1.4 Astra without a Turbo? :-\
God, you're quick. ;D
Never mind. Performance should be enough for a coffin dodger such as yourself. :)
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Can you re-map it's looks? ;D
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Can you re-map it's looks? ;D
What? So it looks like a twelve year old rusty tank? No. ;D
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Can you re-map it's looks? ;D
What? So it looks like a twelve year old rusty tank? No. ;D
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Mr Tunnie may be talking about the Signum.
It's a bit of an ugly fooker. ;D
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I liked your previous choice, the CLS.
Those 500s are cheap, been looking at those. Could LPG one, appear to take well to gas.
One day 8)
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Can you re-map it's looks? ;D
What? So it looks like a twelve year old rusty tank? No. ;D
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Mr Tunnie may be talking about the Signum.
It's a bit of an ugly fooker. ;D
That's subjective. I think they look ok, certainly not ugly.
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Can you re-map it's looks? ;D
What? So it looks like a twelve year old rusty tank? No. ;D
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Mr Tunnie may be talking about the Signum.
It's a bit of an ugly fooker. ;D
That's subjective. I think they look ok, certainly not ugly.
It has a big arse......but some men like that. ;D
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I liked your previous choice, the CLS.
Yuk! They look like a suppository. :o Not that the Signum is any oil painting. ::)
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What would you like to know?
Bluefin is probably the most convenient. You get a handset that enables you to rewrite the map/return to stock as required. Plus you may be able to sell the unit on when you are finished with this car. Plus they have a 7 day refund policy if you are not satisfied.
The others sound like a single shot map, which may be the better choice if they are cheaper/you plan to keep the car for a prolonged period/are sure you will be happy with the end product..
Dreamscience do not cater for Vx except the VXR. But their reputation and service is very good. They are predominantly Ford tuners.
With most FWD turbo cars, remaps usually cause issues with the clutch slipping. Especially if it has been previously abused. Drive shafts can go, Ford are particularly notorious for this.
Insurance will go up and most mainstream insurers will refuse to cover the remap. Use someone like Chris Knott or Sky to get better prices.
Link (http://www.mybluefin.co.uk/search?make=37&fueltype=3&model=392&variant=1836)
Edit: Pre and post dyno results are usually a great way for tuner to get more money from you. Results are usually operator dependent, highly variable and of very little use other than bragging rights.
Most seem to charge about £120- £150 for this service.
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I liked your previous choice, the CLS.
Yuk! They look like a suppository. :o Not that the Signum is any oil painting. ::)
Don't know what it is about the CLS, I appear to see them everywhere at the moment. But I like them more and more :-\
Price wise, quite reasonable too.
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What would you like to know?
Bluefin is probably the most convenient. You get a handset that enables you to rewrite the map/return to stock as required. Plus you may be able to sell the unit on when you are finished with this car. Plus they have a 7 day refund policy if you are not satisfied.
The others sound like a single shot map, which may be the better choice if they are cheaper/you plan to keep the car for a prolonged period/are sure you will be happy with the end product..
Dreamscience do not cater for Vx except the VXR. But their reputation and service is very good. They are predominantly Ford tuners.
With most FWD turbo cars, remaps usually cause issues with the clutch slipping. Especially if it has been previously abused. Drive shafts can go, Ford are particularly notorious for this.
Insurance will go up and most mainstream insurers will refuse to cover the remap. Use someone like Chris Knott or Sky to get better prices.
Link (http://www.mybluefin.co.uk/search?make=37&fueltype=3&model=392&variant=1836)
Edit: Pre and post dyno results are usually a great way for tuner to get more money from you. Results are usually operator dependent, highly variable and of very little use other than bragging rights.
Used bluefin unit are virtually worthless as Superchips charge £225 plus VAT for a 'reset'....even if used on the same make of car. Bastards. :(
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I liked your previous choice, the CLS.
Yuk! They look like a suppository. :o Not that the Signum is any oil painting. ::)
Don't know what it is about the CLS, I appear to see them everywhere at the moment. But I like them more and more :-\
Price wise, quite reasonable too.
Yes indeed.
Far cheaper year for year than a Monaro or VXR8 despite costing almost twice as much when new (£70,000). You could do far worse, Mr Tunnie.
Unlike the Cls 500, you will find conventional suspension on the CLS 350 derv drinker. :y
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I liked your previous choice, the CLS.
Yuk! They look like a suppository. :o Not that the Signum is any oil painting. ::)
Don't know what it is about the CLS, I appear to see them everywhere at the moment. But I like them more and more :-\
Price wise, quite reasonable too.
Yes indeed.
Far cheaper year for year than a Monaro or VXR8 despite costing almost twice as much when new (£70,000). You could do far worse, Mr Tunnie.
Unlike the Cls 500, you will find conventional suspension on the CLS 350 derv drinker. :y
Think most of the earlier ones are 320's?
I would be tempted by a 500, then an LPG conversion. If I found a 500 cheap enough, hopefully Josh is still selling cars in a few years time!
By the time I'm ready to get one, the facelift CLS would be an option 8)
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How about JZW? Have a read of this http://www.uksaabs.co.uk/UKS/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=117913 Dai's car is Manual, but if you have the same 5 speed Aisin Warner Autobox that I have in the 9-5, I'm curently running 285BHP and 440Nm Torque, and it handles that perfectly well. I have done 3 fluid changes in quick sucession to ensure there is good oil in it though.