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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: chrisgixer on 18 July 2015, 12:11:16
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Some interesting posts by members on this recently
Jusme and his Lexus
Dbug and his Jag
Both very nice cars. Time to re visit the subject perhaps...?
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Just to add, the Sportbrake is catching my eye recently. :-\
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Signum.......one with a muscular turbocharged 2.8 litre engine?..... ::) ::) ::) ;) ;D
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Mercedes CLS 320 is top on my list currently.
Lexus LS looks tempting, 2014 ones are really nice. Look forward to those dropping in value
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Mercedes CLS 320 is top on my list currently.
Lexus LS looks tempting, 2014 ones are really nice. Look forward to those dropping in value
Good choice, Mr Tunnie.
As standard the CLS 320 comes with conventional suspension. The expensive and frail air suspension was standard on the CLS 500.
This should be good news if you buy one.
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V8 Monaro LPG'd for me.
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Mercedes CLS 320 is top on my list currently.
Lexus LS looks tempting, 2014 ones are really nice. Look forward to those dropping in value
Good choice, Mr Tunnie.
As standard the CLS 320 comes with conventional suspension. The expensive and frail air suspension was standard on the CLS 500.
This should be good news if you buy one.
Thanks. Lots of choice of them too, not silly money either :)
Like the looks inside and out of the CLS, only niggle is even the diesel is not brilliant on fuel. About same cost per mile if i LPG'd the 3.2 :-\
The Lexus would have to be very cheap with an outstanding good ride, to get past the looks for me.
Jag XJ diesel on the list too, but more taken with the CLS at the moment.
Trouble is, need good 7-10k for something decent, where as I could get 3.2 LPG'd even via a garage for 1-1.5k. Then continue with DIY service, thus saving even more.
CLS, XJ, Lexus etc, means no more DIY :(
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As standard the CLS 320 comes with conventional suspension. The expensive and frail air suspension was standard on the CLS 500.
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I like my Airmatic :y
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I've worked on a few Insignias of late. They, to me, are really nice.
Other than that ferrari 458 gets my vote :y
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Only one on the realistic list.. jag s type supercharged.
lottery win would have to jag f type
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As standard the CLS 320 comes with conventional suspension. The expensive and frail air suspension was standard on the CLS 500.
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I like my Airmatic :y
Not for much longer, Mr B...eanz. ;D
It's only a matter of time. :)
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Not for much longer, Mr B...eanz. ;D
It's only a matter of time. :)
It had something done to it under warranty ;)
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Not for much longer, Mr B...eanz. ;D
It's only a matter of time. :)
It had something done to it under warranty ;)
Life expectancy is around 5-6 years.
Still, a man with your wealth won't miss the £5000 to replace all four. Back of the sofa money. :y
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I think when my Omega eventually dies it'll be something dull but practical like a Mundano estate..... :-\
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I think when my Omega eventually dies it'll be something dull but practical like a Mundano estate..... :-\
That's my current choice to replace mine, apart from another mig, main factor is the fold flat rear seats
Also the Merc E class estate to keep rear wheel drive and some luxury/toys
Guess which Mr Beanz recommended during a recent conflab ::) :-X
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Saw brand spankers new shape Mondeo Estate last week. Nice looking car
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Saw brand spankers new shape Mondeo Estate last week. Nice looking car
I'd forgot about that. yep, new shape looks fantastic. TBH any model for me from 2006 (the mk4) I love.
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Centre exhaust looks very sexy. Is that the rs models?
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For me it could be a Jag XJ (really fancy one of those at the moment, 7series Beemer, or a bid Lexus.
As mentioned by many in the other thread, the later Lexus are pretty ugly externally, but otherwise superb cars.
Hadnt thought of the Merc SLS before now, but that could be a possibility too.
Its a decision I may have to make later this year, as Im starting to think that me and my Omega are getting a bit jaded with each other.
Maybe time for a change. :)
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It's got to be an estate for me so that limits things. I miss my Range Rover so that is tempting
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No love for the vxr8 of Phaeton? (Neither available in Estate in the UK)
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No love for the vxr8 of Phaeton? (Neither available in Estate in the UK)
Monaro and VXR8 are overpriced.
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love the phaeton chris. forgot about those also ::) :-[
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would wamt to hold out for the w12 verson though :-X
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201507125139572?fuel-type=petrol&search-target=usedcars&sort=default&page=1&make=volkswagen&radius=1501&postcode=nn37bl&onesearchad=used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew&channel=cars&model=phaeton&logcode=p
6 litres of 12 cylinder goodness 8) 8) 8)
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No love for the vxr8 of Phaeton? (Neither available in Estate in the UK)
Monaro and VXR8 are overpriced.
They seem to have gone up in value over the last year or more? I was looking at a high miler of 100k for £11,000 at one point. They seem to be 12-13k at an advertised price. More sensible mileage examples seem to start at 14-15k these days in r8 form. :-\
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No love for the vxr8 of Phaeton? (Neither available in Estate in the UK)
Monaro and VXR8 are overpriced.
They seem to have gone up in value over the last year or more? I was looking at a high miler of 100k for £11,000 at one point. They seem to be 12-13k at an advertised price. More sensible mileage examples seem to start at 14-15k these days in r8 form. :-\
Tunnie has the right idea. You can buy a CLS Merc far cheaper year for year than a a VXR/Monaro.
This is despite the german barge costing twice as much when new.
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No love for the vxr8 of Phaeton? (Neither available in Estate in the UK)
Monaro and VXR8 are overpriced.
They seem to have gone up in value over the last year or more? I was looking at a high miler of 100k for £11,000 at one point. They seem to be 12-13k at an advertised price. More sensible mileage examples seem to start at 14-15k these days in r8 form. :-\
Madness. :-\
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would wamt to hold out for the w12 verson though :-X
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201507125139572?fuel-type=petrol&search-target=usedcars&sort=default&page=1&make=volkswagen&radius=1501&postcode=nn37bl&onesearchad=used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew&channel=cars&model=phaeton&logcode=p
6 litres of 12 cylinder goodness 8) 8) 8)
Yep...10% of the original price sounds good to me.
I like the Phaeton despite it's gargantuan proportions. :y
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would wamt to hold out for the w12 verson though :-X
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201507125139572?fuel-type=petrol&search-target=usedcars&sort=default&page=1&make=volkswagen&radius=1501&postcode=nn37bl&onesearchad=used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew&channel=cars&model=phaeton&logcode=p
6 litres of 12 cylinder goodness 8) 8) 8)
Yep...10% of the original price sounds good to me.
I like the Phaeton despite it's gargantuan proportions. :y
I actually really like the shape and body :-X
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would wamt to hold out for the w12 verson though :-X
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201507125139572?fuel-type=petrol&search-target=usedcars&sort=default&page=1&make=volkswagen&radius=1501&postcode=nn37bl&onesearchad=used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew&channel=cars&model=phaeton&logcode=p
6 litres of 12 cylinder goodness 8) 8) 8)
Yep...10% of the original price sounds good to me.
I like the Phaeton despite it's gargantuan proportions. :y
I actually really like the shape and body :-X
Better than a 458? :)
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No love for the vxr8 of Phaeton? (Neither available in Estate in the UK)
Monaro and VXR8 are overpriced.
They seem to have gone up in value over the last year or more? I was looking at a high miler of 100k for £11,000 at one point. They seem to be 12-13k at an advertised price. More sensible mileage examples seem to start at 14-15k these days in r8 form. :-\
Madness. :-\
People will pay. Hence the prices.
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would wamt to hold out for the w12 verson though :-X
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201507125139572?fuel-type=petrol&search-target=usedcars&sort=default&page=1&make=volkswagen&radius=1501&postcode=nn37bl&onesearchad=used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew&channel=cars&model=phaeton&logcode=p
6 litres of 12 cylinder goodness 8) 8) 8)
Yep...10% of the original price sounds good to me.
I like the Phaeton despite it's gargantuan proportions. :y
I actually really like the shape and body :-X
Better than a 458? :)
No, ;D
slightly off topic of realistic omega replacements..... im going to go out on a limb and say the 458 is the prettiest ever car. I used to like the Modena 360 but that hasn't aged well in my opinion. still love the f430 and having driven one on a track I know theyre awesome. just got to save up thousands of pounds now ::)
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would wamt to hold out for the w12 verson though :-X
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201507125139572?fuel-type=petrol&search-target=usedcars&sort=default&page=1&make=volkswagen&radius=1501&postcode=nn37bl&onesearchad=used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew&channel=cars&model=phaeton&logcode=p
6 litres of 12 cylinder goodness 8) 8) 8)
Yep...10% of the original price sounds good to me.
I like the Phaeton despite it's gargantuan proportions. :y
I actually really like the shape and body :-X
Better than a 458? :)
No, ;D
slightly off topic of realistic omega replacements..... im going to go out on a limb and say the 458 is the prettiest ever car. I used to like the Modena 360 but that hasn't aged well in my opinion. still love the f430 and having driven one on a track I know theyre awesome. just got to save up thousands of pounds now ::)
I'm 'old school'........a nice red Daytona would suit me. :-* :-* :-*
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slightly off topic of realistic omega replacements..... im going to go out on a limb and say the 458 is the prettiest ever car. I used to like the Modena 360 but that hasn't aged well in my opinion. still love the f430 and having driven one on a track I know theyre awesome. just got to save up thousands of pounds now ::)
Prettier than:
(http://cnet3.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2015/02/03/f87630fe-a53b-4863-b40f-041d708371c8/resize/1170x878/255b9afbd7bc867da818d000400a5b14/150031car.jpg)
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hmmmm..... ::);D
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Ok, lets try again:
(http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--KAppxoAS--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/o5ilg9391iyw3ylsvmbl.jpg)
(http://ferrari-4me.weebo.it/static/2-ferrari-laterale-v2-1280x0_GBMRNA.jpg)
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still not sure. the 458 ive loved but I hate to say it.... that looks nicer. I didn't even know about that 488gtb lol
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still not sure. the 458 ive loved but I hate to say it.... that looks nicer. I didn't even know about that 488gtb lol
So fickle. ;D
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This caught my eye on Thursday night and although it`s not a replacement for an Omega it`s what will probably replacing it ;D
(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w75/Gav24v/media%202_zpsz6shehai.jpg)
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For me I'm thinking XF Sportbrake jobbie, in black of course. Black Jags always look the best.
But actually me and my other half are thinking more along the lines of the Volvo C30 as an every day 'do anything' car - as per the above post, not an Omega replacement, but what may be replacing it, as daily driver. Hatchback, it's like a tiny estate, it will go down in history as an interesting little thing, a brief glimmer of when Volvo dared to be different, like the P1800 and the 480. Some super-efficient low carbon low-tax engines. Very very safe. And being a Volvo it'll survive thermo-nuclear devices. :y
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For me I'm thinking XF Sportbrake jobbie, in black of course. Black Jags always look the best.
But actually me and my other half are thinking more along the lines of the Volvo C30 as an every day 'do anything' car - as per the above post, not an Omega replacement, but what may be replacing it, as daily driver. Hatchback, it's like a tiny estate, it will go down in history as an interesting little thing, a brief glimmer of when Volvo dared to be different, like the P1800 and the 480. Some super-efficient low carbon low-tax engines. Very very safe. And being a Volvo it'll survive thermo-nuclear devices. :y
P1800ES...... :-* :-* :-* :-*
Probably drives like a lorry though....or like a Capri.
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I'd suspect like a lorry :)
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I must say, I am unconvinced about the longterm reliability of the Jags :-\
Given someones silence over his parents XF estate, I suspect that all is not as rosy as it looks with the Jag... ::)
If you want a proper estate, then the E Class must be at the top of a very short list... ;)
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I must say, I am unconvinced about the longterm reliability of the Jags :-\
Given someones silence over his parents XF estate, I suspect that all is not as rosy as it looks with the Jag... ::)
If you want a proper estate, then the E Class must be at the top of a very short list... ;)
Yes indeed......but who has one of these ultra rare beasties? ::)
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Not me, that's for sure...
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If you want a proper estate, then the E Class must be at the top of a very short list... ;)
They're far too new yet, so they'd have to get older for me to be able to buy one, but I love the look of the CLS 'estate' Shooting Brake, probably no good for putting anything of any size in, but they look good. (and they not type approved for fitting a towbar, so the caravan would have to roped onto the rear bumper)
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If you want a Saloon;
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201502140957902?price-from=2500&radius=1500&sort=pricedesc&onesearchad=used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew&page=1&fuel-type=petrol&postcode=bs159qu&channel=cars&engine-size-cars=2l_to_2-5l&make=saab&model=9-5&search-target=usedcars&logcode=p
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201506044031478?page=2&engine-size-cars=2l_to_2-5l&model=9-5&channel=cars&sort=pricedesc&onesearchad=used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew&make=saab&postcode=bs159qu&price-from=2500&radius=1500&fuel-type=petrol&search-target=usedcars&logcode=p
Or an Estate;
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201506184441549?channel=cars&page=10&search-target=usedcars&radius=1500&sort=pricedesc&price-from=2500&make=saab&model=9-5&postcode=bs159qu&onesearchad=used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew&logcode=p
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201506184441549?channel=cars&page=10&search-target=usedcars&radius=1500&sort=pricedesc&price-from=2500&make=saab&model=9-5&postcode=bs159qu&onesearchad=used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew&logcode=p
OK, WWD, but bloody good! (Not necessarily the ones I have posted, but that's to give you an idea)
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Why a replacement Omega?? Vauxhall have brought back the Viva...... BRING back the Omega and no sodding FWD thank you :)
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I must say, I am unconvinced about the longterm reliability of the Jags :-\
Given someones silence over his parents XF estate, I suspect that all is not as rosy as it looks with the Jag... ::)
If you want a proper estate, then the E Class must be at the top of a very short list... ;)
Speaking from personal experience? How many have you owned? I'm on my 4th and have to say reliability has not been an issue.
I have also had 5 Omegas, 1 from new, and have been let down by all of them. From crank sensor failure (on 3), and alternator failure (on 2) - not a good advert for Omega reliability!
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Must have been unlucky then... Mine has only been recovered twice... Clutch both times... Not counting accident damage :-X
Omega foibles are very well documented and nothing is that significant...
If you're spending tens of thousands on a nearly new car, the warranty should provide alot of piece of mind, but even so, Jlr still don't have a great track record, however nice the cars look, and if I were to spend a reasonable sum on another car, it would most likely be a left field choice, and probably lefthand drive... Not to mention being a similar age as the Omega or older. A Buick station wagon has a certain appeal, as does an older S class... ::)
If I had nearly new Xj levels of cash to spend, then a VXR8 or Camaro would be on the drive, and if I needed a posh saloon then the Tesla Model S would be top of the list..
In the meantime, two twelve year old Omegas suit me just fine ;)
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Have always wanted one of THESE (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Mustang-GT-4-6L-51000miles-Very-good-condition-20-Wheels-/121703285971?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item1c5614c4d3) and have promised myself one when funds are available :)
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FatherT has new shape XF Saloon, very happy with it. First jag and only had it over a year, but it's clocking up some miles. Very quick too, well built.
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First time you mentioned it... not suspicious, especially given how far up the list of 'New Omega' alternatives the XF sits ::)
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You were mentioning Estate? Shows how much you know :y
Given someones silence over his parents XF estate, I suspect that all is not as rosy as it looks with the Jag... ::)
Do I have to give full updates on my parents cars for you? :-\ ???
Fine. Both cars bought for cash...
MotherT has a 2014 Merc E220 AMG Spec Estate, Half Leather seats and she is very, very happy with it. Zero issues, faultless. Also very happy with Merc dealers, very good experiance. Would I buy one, of course.
FatherT's 2013 Jag XF, it's Portfolio spec, so got every gadget plus some extra's. It's smooth, fast and very refined for a diesel. Again, dealer has been brilliant, whole service from the 'red carpet' session were the car was presented, to being told service information. A video was provided online via the dealers website to approve work, he can see what needs doing, tyres, under bonnect ect, approve online for work to be done. Outstanding.
So why are neither on my list for Omega replacements?
Errr cause I don't have £30-40k to spend. I'm not using car finance, that's not the way to do things.
When I buy, it will be for cash, so with my potential budget in next few years a CLS fits in it. Nice XF's are out of budget. Are you ok with that? ::)
Ohh but XJ's are on my list, as they are in budget, which I've mentioned before. ;)
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If you want a Saloon;
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201502140957902?price-from=2500&radius=1500&sort=pricedesc&onesearchad=used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew&page=1&fuel-type=petrol&postcode=bs159qu&channel=cars&engine-size-cars=2l_to_2-5l&make=saab&model=9-5&search-target=usedcars&logcode=p
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201506044031478?page=2&engine-size-cars=2l_to_2-5l&model=9-5&channel=cars&sort=pricedesc&onesearchad=used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew&make=saab&postcode=bs159qu&price-from=2500&radius=1500&fuel-type=petrol&search-target=usedcars&logcode=p
Or an Estate;
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201506184441549?channel=cars&page=10&search-target=usedcars&radius=1500&sort=pricedesc&price-from=2500&make=saab&model=9-5&postcode=bs159qu&onesearchad=used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew&logcode=p
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201506184441549?channel=cars&page=10&search-target=usedcars&radius=1500&sort=pricedesc&price-from=2500&make=saab&model=9-5&postcode=bs159qu&onesearchad=used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew&logcode=p
OK, WWD, but bloody good! (Not necessarily the ones I have posted, but that's to give you an idea)
I would have gone for a Saab with the 2.8 V6 instead of the Signum if I could have sourced a nice example at the right price.
I plumped for the Signum because it was immaculately maintained and very discreet. No boy racer stripes or huge orange spoilers. Owned by a high court judge to boot. :y
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Right. Everything bundle round Tunnies parents for a looksee ;D
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I live in the world of 'bangernomics', my cars are cheap, the parts are cheap and I can ride around in luxury or fun for less than the monthly on a small new car.
As such, I've mainly run Vauxhalls in the past. However I find the newer range of VX's bland, boring, over complicated, poor visibility, slow etc; As such I think the Omega is likely to be my last daily driver Vauxhall. I don't like Mercs (poor build, harsh ride, epic bills), I've had an drAudi - that put me off VAG cars. So without going to the horrid blue oval (which incidentally, I've had a few and am not keen on), I think I'll be looking at a 330 BMW estate. Whilst the initial outlay is above my usual spend, I am now struggling to find an estate I'd want to drive.
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I think I'll be looking at a 330 BMW estate.
Depending on why you need the estate, I'd look carefully at the dimensions of the load area. A guy i know has one, seemed pretty small for a load lugger to me.
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None of the above for me thanks, keeping the three amigos, but will add one other car to the stable later on.....possibly a Yank :-\
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I think I'll be looking at a 330 BMW estate.
Depending on why you need the estate, I'd look carefully at the dimensions of the load area. A guy i know has one, seemed pretty small for a load lugger to me.
From what I remember, they are about the same size as Vectra, so I'm hoping it won't be a problem. I rarely fill the back up, I occasionally need to carry my engine crane. The main reason I like estates, is the level loading. A saloon or hatch requires me to lift toolboxes up to clear the rear lip. An estate allows me to slide a box in. Having said that, it's been a while since I've done mobile spanner swinging.
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YAY! 500 posts, that means I can sell everything twice ;D
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Must have been unlucky then... Mine has only been recovered twice... Clutch both times... Not counting accident damage :-X
Omega foibles are very well documented and nothing is that significant...
If you're spending tens of thousands on a nearly new car, the warranty should provide alot of piece of mind, but even so, Jlr still don't have a great track record, however nice the cars look, and if I were to spend a reasonable sum on another car, it would most likely be a left field choice, and probably lefthand drive... Not to mention being a similar age as the Omega or older. A Buick station wagon has a certain appeal, as does an older S class... ::)
If I had nearly new Xj levels of cash to spend, then a VXR8 or Camaro would be on the drive, and if I needed a posh saloon then the Tesla Model S would be top of the list..
In the meantime, two twelve year old Omegas suit me just fine ;)
So you're not talking from personal experience then - never owned a Jag?
??? ??? ???
You were mentioning Estate? Shows how much you know :y
Given someones silence over his parents XF estate, I suspect that all is not as rosy as it looks with the Jag... ::)
Do I have to give full updates on my parents cars for you? :-\ ???
Fine. Both cars bought for cash...
MotherT has a 2014 Merc E220 AMG Spec Estate, Half Leather seats and she is very, very happy with it. Zero issues, faultless. Also very happy with Merc dealers, very good experiance. Would I buy one, of course.
FatherT's 2013 Jag XF, it's Portfolio spec, so got every gadget plus some extra's. It's smooth, fast and very refined for a diesel. Again, dealer has been brilliant, whole service from the 'red carpet' session were the car was presented, to being told service information. A video was provided online via the dealers website to approve work, he can see what needs doing, tyres, under bonnect ect, approve online for work to be done. Outstanding.
So why are neither on my list for Omega replacements?
Errr cause I don't have £30-40k to spend. I'm not using car finance, that's not the way to do things.
When I buy, it will be for cash, so with my potential budget in next few years a CLS fits in it. Nice XF's are out of budget. Are you ok with that? ::)
Ohh but XJ's are on my list, as they are in budget, which I've mentioned before. ;)
Guess you're talking X350/X358 Tunnie - certainly I had good experiences with my X350, and would certainly recommend it as a reliable, competent high speed tourer.
RE your comments about the Jag dealers, I can echo those - even got a bottle of bolly when I picked my V8 up! :y
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Yes X350, assume X358 is face lifted one? Before it went to your shape?
I've driven V8 X350, very nice. Loved driving position, centre arm rest etc. Defo up on the list, CLS looks nicer I think, but yet to drive one.
Around £10k gets some very nice examples, looking for around 80k miles I think. Be a few years as suggested, so one of your shape maybe in my budget when the time comes :D
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I was going to say something about having to be slim to be comfortable in a Jag .. then I remembered who I'm talking to ;D
That said I did find the XF comfortable, if a little cocoon-like in the seating area. The boot (of the Sportbrake) looked cavernous though.
I'm starting to think about Omega replacement-replacements (planning ahead) but so far I'm perfectly happy with the Ranger - not that most people would replace a comfy cruiser with a utilitarian pickup. :D
VW Touareg, maybe. Something like that. Unless I'm done with DIY by then...
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Thing is I know of 406 HDI that is spare, spotless condition, cheap to run, DIY looks straight forward. Also I have an attachment to it, for family reasons. I keep thinking about chopping in the 3.2 for it. :-\
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My X-Type was as unreliable as an unreliable thing having a bad day.
Not a REAL Jag though.....which have moved on since the dark days of the seventies. :y
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I was going to say something about having to be slim to be comfortable in a Jag .. then I remembered who I'm talking to ;D
That said I did find the XF comfortable, if a little cocoon-like in the seating area. The boot (of the Sportbrake) looked cavernous though.
I'm starting to think about Omega replacement-replacements (planning ahead) but so far I'm perfectly happy with the Ranger - not that most people would replace a comfy cruiser with a utilitarian pickup. :D
VW Touareg, maybe. Something like that. Unless I'm done with DIY by then...
Are you thinking of starting a 'rubble removal' business, Aaron?..... ::) ::) :)
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Must have been unlucky then... Mine has only been recovered twice... Clutch both times... Not counting accident damage :-X
Omega foibles are very well documented and nothing is that significant...
If you're spending tens of thousands on a nearly new car, the warranty should provide alot of piece of mind, but even so, Jlr still don't have a great track record, however nice the cars look, and if I were to spend a reasonable sum on another car, it would most likely be a left field choice, and probably lefthand drive... Not to mention being a similar age as the Omega or older. A Buick station wagon has a certain appeal, as does an older S class... ::)
If I had nearly new Xj levels of cash to spend, then a VXR8 or Camaro would be on the drive, and if I needed a posh saloon then the Tesla Model S would be top of the list..
In the meantime, two twelve year old Omegas suit me just fine ;)
So you're not talking from personal experience then - never owned a Jag?
??? ??? ???
You were mentioning Estate? Shows how much you know :y
Given someones silence over his parents XF estate, I suspect that all is not as rosy as it looks with the Jag... ::)
Do I have to give full updates on my parents cars for you? :-\ ???
Fine. Both cars bought for cash...
MotherT has a 2014 Merc E220 AMG Spec Estate, Half Leather seats and she is very, very happy with it. Zero issues, faultless. Also very happy with Merc dealers, very good experiance. Would I buy one, of course.
FatherT's 2013 Jag XF, it's Portfolio spec, so got every gadget plus some extra's. It's smooth, fast and very refined for a diesel. Again, dealer has been brilliant, whole service from the 'red carpet' session were the car was presented, to being told service information. A video was provided online via the dealers website to approve work, he can see what needs doing, tyres, under bonnect ect, approve online for work to be done. Outstanding.
So why are neither on my list for Omega replacements?
Errr cause I don't have £30-40k to spend. I'm not using car finance, that's not the way to do things.
When I buy, it will be for cash, so with my potential budget in next few years a CLS fits in it. Nice XF's are out of budget. Are you ok with that? ::)
Ohh but XJ's are on my list, as they are in budget, which I've mentioned before. ;)
Guess you're talking X350/X358 Tunnie - certainly I had good experiences with my X350, and would certainly recommend it as a reliable, competent high speed tourer.
RE your comments about the Jag dealers, I can echo those - even got a bottle of bolly when I picked my V8 up! :y
And what do you think of it?
Impressive?
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If looking for an XJ now, I would be seriously tempted by something like this:
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201506124269795?maximum-mileage=up_to_80000_miles&channel=cars&model=xj&search-target=usedcars&postcode=tw89de&onesearchad=used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew&page=2&fuel-type=diesel&make=jaguar&sort=default&radius=1500&logcode=p (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201506124269795?maximum-mileage=up_to_80000_miles&channel=cars&model=xj&search-target=usedcars&postcode=tw89de&onesearchad=used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew&page=2&fuel-type=diesel&make=jaguar&sort=default&radius=1500&logcode=p)
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If looking for an XJ now, I would be seriously tempted by something like this:
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201506124269795?maximum-mileage=up_to_80000_miles&channel=cars&model=xj&search-target=usedcars&postcode=tw89de&onesearchad=used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew&page=2&fuel-type=diesel&make=jaguar&sort=default&radius=1500&logcode=p (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201506124269795?maximum-mileage=up_to_80000_miles&channel=cars&model=xj&search-target=usedcars&postcode=tw89de&onesearchad=used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew&page=2&fuel-type=diesel&make=jaguar&sort=default&radius=1500&logcode=p)
They are nice, but I always felt that space inside was at a premium, especially given how large the car is. The facelift is a different kettle of fish, much more roomy. Just dont like the back end. Yes, infact the backend would put me off buying one, ever. Neighbour had a XJ-R, the supercharged variant. Loud and very nice.
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Must have been unlucky then... Mine has only been recovered twice... Clutch both times... Not counting accident damage :-X
Omega foibles are very well documented and nothing is that significant...
If you're spending tens of thousands on a nearly new car, the warranty should provide alot of piece of mind, but even so, Jlr still don't have a great track record, however nice the cars look, and if I were to spend a reasonable sum on another car, it would most likely be a left field choice, and probably lefthand drive... Not to mention being a similar age as the Omega or older. A Buick station wagon has a certain appeal, as does an older S class... ::)
If I had nearly new Xj levels of cash to spend, then a VXR8 or Camaro would be on the drive, and if I needed a posh saloon then the Tesla Model S would be top of the list..
In the meantime, two twelve year old Omegas suit me just fine ;)
So you're not talking from personal experience then - never owned a Jag?
??? ??? ???
You were mentioning Estate? Shows how much you know :y
Given someones silence over his parents XF estate, I suspect that all is not as rosy as it looks with the Jag... ::)
Do I have to give full updates on my parents cars for you? :-\ ???
Fine. Both cars bought for cash...
MotherT has a 2014 Merc E220 AMG Spec Estate, Half Leather seats and she is very, very happy with it. Zero issues, faultless. Also very happy with Merc dealers, very good experiance. Would I buy one, of course.
FatherT's 2013 Jag XF, it's Portfolio spec, so got every gadget plus some extra's. It's smooth, fast and very refined for a diesel. Again, dealer has been brilliant, whole service from the 'red carpet' session were the car was presented, to being told service information. A video was provided online via the dealers website to approve work, he can see what needs doing, tyres, under bonnect ect, approve online for work to be done. Outstanding.
So why are neither on my list for Omega replacements?
Errr cause I don't have £30-40k to spend. I'm not using car finance, that's not the way to do things.
When I buy, it will be for cash, so with my potential budget in next few years a CLS fits in it. Nice XF's are out of budget. Are you ok with that? ::)
Ohh but XJ's are on my list, as they are in budget, which I've mentioned before. ;)
Guess you're talking X350/X358 Tunnie - certainly I had good experiences with my X350, and would certainly recommend it as a reliable, competent high speed tourer.
RE your comments about the Jag dealers, I can echo those - even got a bottle of bolly when I picked my V8 up! :y
And what do you think of it?
Impressive?
Excellent and yes, accelerates like stink for a big car, and fuel not too bad at around 25-26mpg
If looking for an XJ now, I would be seriously tempted by something like this:
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201506124269795?maximum-mileage=up_to_80000_miles&channel=cars&model=xj&search-target=usedcars&postcode=tw89de&onesearchad=used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew&page=2&fuel-type=diesel&make=jaguar&sort=default&radius=1500&logcode=p (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201506124269795?maximum-mileage=up_to_80000_miles&channel=cars&model=xj&search-target=usedcars&postcode=tw89de&onesearchad=used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew&page=2&fuel-type=diesel&make=jaguar&sort=default&radius=1500&logcode=p)
Looks good Tunnie - thats the facelifted car the X358, price a tad heavy though. Personally I don't like diesel motors, prefer petrol, but that's a personal choice.
If looking for an XJ now, I would be seriously tempted by something like this:
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201506124269795?maximum-mileage=up_to_80000_miles&channel=cars&model=xj&search-target=usedcars&postcode=tw89de&onesearchad=used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew&page=2&fuel-type=diesel&make=jaguar&sort=default&radius=1500&logcode=p (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201506124269795?maximum-mileage=up_to_80000_miles&channel=cars&model=xj&search-target=usedcars&postcode=tw89de&onesearchad=used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew&page=2&fuel-type=diesel&make=jaguar&sort=default&radius=1500&logcode=p)
They are nice, but I always felt that space inside was at a premium, especially given how large the car is. The facelift is a different kettle of fish, much more roomy. Just dont like the back end. Yes, infact the backend would put me off buying one, ever. Neighbour had a XJ-R, the supercharged variant. Loud and very nice.
Pleny of space in an XJ (particularly compared to an Omega) - you're not thinking of an X-type or the later XF - they are a bit cramped imo.
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Diesel for cheaper go-go :y
I do like the V8's boot space is not brilliant though, so LPG would be an issue. Don't see many of them on LPG either.
Even the diesel of that shape is not great on fuel, only 35mpg. Your shape is much better. :)
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When they were looking, I know the Xf was on the list... And I knew that they har subsequently bought one, kand having fleetingly seen it in passing I had presumed it was an estate. And given how you normally go on and on and about how good or bad summat is, I found the lack of any comment to be, er, unusual.
The E class would be my preferred choice of the two, and can be had cheaply enough if you shop around. Certainly mine did 30k in 8 months and only required brakes and tyres in that time.time, so would expect nothing less.
Glad they like the Jag as well ;)
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I bought an M5 at the end of last year when the MV6 decided to rupture a head gasket.
My only criticism really is the small boot for the size of the car and lack of folding rear seats.