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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 10 October 2015, 12:14:42
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Im used to Windows 7, but my old laptop has finally fell apart. Ive just bought a Toshiba refurb from Argos which has Windows 8 installed. Its completely alien to me. Cant make head nor tail of it.
Not sure whether to stick with it and try to get used to it.
Install Windows 7 on it - can I do that without buying a new copy of Windows 7 ?
Or use the option of a free upgrade to Windows 10 - which may be even more alien then 8 ?
Decisions, decisions. :-\ :-\ ::)
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It's a bit like asking to choose between an Electric G-Wiz, City Rover or a Lada. ;D ;D
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What are the options then, given that buying a crapple isn't one of them ?
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Just start using it, then you will know how to.
In the olden days, you were told there you go get on with it, use that theory.
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I will try and persevere, but I have read somewhere that Windows 8 was pretty crap from the start and proved unpopular ?
Ive never even heard of it tbh.
Windows 10 is pretty new I believe. Is there a consensus yet as to how good or bad it is ? Is it similar to Windows 8 in everyday use, or more Windows 7 in style ?
I don't like change, see. I turned down the offer of a free iphone last week, as it would have been completely wasted on me. ;D
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I had win7 and upgraded to win8 and didn't much like it but now have win10 and find it much easier to get along with.If you take time to investigate it's features you'll be surprised by what it can do.
John.
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Sounds like an upgrade to 10 might be the best option then. Thanks John. :y
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Either Win7 or 10 if I was forced to choose. Not really used 10 in anger yet, upgraded father-in-laws laptop to it, from general use it's a good improvement over 8.
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Used all three and happy with them all, I think a lot of the Windows 8 hate was due to big bad Microsoft taking away Windows 7 dummy aka the start button/menu ;)
If you are unfamiliar with 8 & 10 then you might as well get the free upgrade to Windows 10 as it is the current operating system.
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Personally, having used all 3, I prefer 7 as for me its the devil you know and technically it is a good platform, having said that, 8 isn't all that bad one you get the hang of it but it is really designed for a touch screen otherwise it can be a bit daunting.
With the lack of 7, Win10 is ok, and probably more suited if you avid 7 user, although for me, its still early days and a few more issues need to be sorted, be prepared to do tons of backups or disk cloning on 10, as at the moment when it goes wrong, it seems to go wrong in style.
My choice would be 7, but Ive got no cost access to it, if I had to go out and buy 7 I'd probably say forget trying to learn 8 and jump in the deep end with win10, after all it supposedly going to be with us for a while.
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In this scenario, I think I would go for the Win10 upgrade, and just accept that its still very new (ie, you are more likely to see unexpected behaviour). The new browser, Edge, is probably the biggest issue with some sites, as it does not support any plugins (for security reasons). IE11 is still there though.
We all know that Win8 is a better underlying OS than Win7, but suffers an inconsistent user interface. Win10 is more Win7 like (non touch devices boot into a traditional desktop interface, with a Win7 start button (on steroids)). It will still take a bit of getting used to, but less so than Win8
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In this scenario, I think I would go for the Win10 upgrade, and just accept that its still very new (ie, you are more likely to see unexpected behaviour). The new browser, Edge, is probably the biggest issue with some sites, as it does not support any plugins (for security reasons).IE11 is still there though.
We all know that Win8 is a better underlying OS than Win7, but suffers an inconsistent user interface. Win10 is more Win7 like (non touch devices boot into a traditional desktop interface, with a Win7 start button (on steroids)). It will still take a bit of getting used to, but less so than Win8
Which is just stupid because you just open it up in IE and then you`re not as secure and if you`re really wanting to do something requiring a plug in then you`re going to do it anyway :-\
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In this scenario, I think I would go for the Win10 upgrade, and just accept that its still very new (ie, you are more likely to see unexpected behaviour). The new browser, Edge, is probably the biggest issue with some sites, as it does not support any plugins (for security reasons).IE11 is still there though.
We all know that Win8 is a better underlying OS than Win7, but suffers an inconsistent user interface. Win10 is more Win7 like (non touch devices boot into a traditional desktop interface, with a Win7 start button (on steroids)). It will still take a bit of getting used to, but less so than Win8
Which is just stupid because you just open it up in IE and then you`re not as secure and if you`re really wanting to do something requiring a plug in then you`re going to do it anyway :-\
I think its a decent step in the right direction. Hopefully all these retarded website "designers" will stop using stupid, pointless plugins that are so inherently insecure. Shame MS didn't quite have the balls not to supply IE in the box.
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Yeah, no point in making something more secure and then providing a means to use something less secure :-\
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There's no Media Centre with Win 10 though is there? I use that everyday and don't want to lose it. :-\
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Yeah, no point in making something more secure and then providing a means to use something less secure :-\
I agree, but if MS banned Firefox, or the particularly insecure Chrome, I suspect there would be uproar.
I guess small steps - make Edge the default, and slowly websites will start to drop the plugins, then we can lose the plugins. Plus MS *HAD* to be more Enterprise friendly than there they were with Win8, and there will be a load of large corporations reliant on Java and the like for ages.
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There's no Media Centre with Win 10 though is there? I use that everyday and don't want to lose it. :-\
Correct. That's why my Media Center remains Win7 until 2020
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There's no Media Centre with Win 10 though is there? I use that everyday and don't want to lose it. :-\
Correct. That's why my Media Center remains Win7 until 2020
Is that when the updates come to a end ?
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There's no Media Centre with Win 10 though is there? I use that everyday and don't want to lose it. :-\
Plex works well once you get your teeth into it, ;)
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There's no Media Centre with Win 10 though is there? I use that everyday and don't want to lose it. :-\
Plex works well once you get your teeth into it, ;)
Current lacks the "just works" (or did about a year ago) that the integrated MCE offers, though I'm sure they'll all improve.
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The last MS bulletin had an urgent update for Edge due to an identify theft issue.
Make sure you update it as soon as you install it.
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Slightly off topic but thinking i'll get a question here faster :-\
The lad has Win 8 on his desktop.
It ran with no problems until he took up the option of upgrading to Win 10.
Win 10 in itself worked great BUT would Microsoft hell as let him register it :(
The desktop was a 400 quid Aldi special and came with OEM Win 8 as standard.
It accepted all updates too so that version seems to have been working okay.
After trying to update it many times either via the web or using the helpline, he gave up and wound it back to Win 8.1 again >:(
Anybody know of a fix for this ?
Tbh, Microsoft have been trying to force the update onto my Win7 laptop recently through the update feature :(
So far, i've resisted by catching it mid update but sooner of later it will probably manage to sneak in >:(
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I have no such problems with my ancient PC running 7. It won't let me update to 10 because the Nvidea? graphics/display are too old. :)
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Slightly off topic but thinking i'll get a question here faster :-\
The lad has Win 8 on his desktop.
It ran with no problems until he took up the option of upgrading to Win 10.
Win 10 in itself worked great BUT would Microsoft hell as let him register it :(
The desktop was a 400 quid Aldi special and came with OEM Win 8 as standard.
It accepted all updates too so that version seems to have been working okay.
After trying to update it many times either via the web or using the helpline, he gave up and wound it back to Win 8.1 again >:(
Anybody know of a fix for this ?
Tbh, Microsoft have been trying to force the update onto my Win7 laptop recently through the update feature :(
So far, i've resisted by catching it mid update but sooner of later it will probably manage to sneak in >:(
Did he attempt an in place upgrade on a good, working Win8, or rebuild to W10? If the latter, that won't work *UNTIL* that specific PC has been through the former first
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Slightly off topic but thinking i'll get a question here faster :-\
The lad has Win 8 on his desktop.
It ran with no problems until he took up the option of upgrading to Win 10.
Win 10 in itself worked great BUT would Microsoft hell as let him register it :(
The desktop was a 400 quid Aldi special and came with OEM Win 8 as standard.
It accepted all updates too so that version seems to have been working okay.
After trying to update it many times either via the web or using the helpline, he gave up and wound it back to Win 8.1 again >:(
Anybody know of a fix for this ?
Tbh, Microsoft have been trying to force the update onto my Win7 laptop recently through the update feature :(
So far, i've resisted by catching it mid update but sooner of later it will probably manage to sneak in >:(
Did he attempt an in place upgrade on a good, working Win8, or rebuild to W10? If the latter, that won't work *UNTIL* that specific PC has been through the former first
This one as far as I know :-\
The pc was running okay (if slow probably due to the amount of Nokia / Blackberry/ QT app software ect crap on the desktop)
I believe he just hit the Win 10 update and let it download :-\
It did work perfectly well (and much faster) on Win10
It just wouldn't let him register it within the required timeframe so he wound it back to 8.1
I'll have a word when he gets his arse out of bed later and see if I got all this right