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Omega Help Area => Omega Electrical and Audio Help => Topic started by: martin341 on 25 October 2015, 16:03:22
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So windows dosen't work but if i touch the circuitboard of the main switch it comes to life. Remove finger from board all dead again. Lighting works normal. Ground issue? Where to look?
It's the second Omega with the same fault...
Martin
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Sounds like a broken track on the board... should be fixable if you're capable at soldering :-\
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I had the same thing.....take it out and take it apart an inspect the electrical board....look very carefully at the silver track on the board...on mine at first i did not notice it but then on very close inspection a very small part,,,about an half inch of track was broken......
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Changed the main switch, still the same. Plus noticed the pas.side switch illuminated all the time.
Thoughts? :(
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If it works when you apply pressure then it can only be a broken track... Fix that and see what issues remain :y
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I don't need to apply pressure just put finger against it. And i have replaced a new switch, used but tested and good, with no cure. That is a bit strange that the problem remaines.
But i will get my "new" Omega :D tomorrow so will swap the switches to test once more and if needed check the tracks.
I will report back the results.
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So now that my radio "drama" is sorted I can report back on the window probleem. Took the third switch out of my latest miggy and it does not work. Tested the old switch in my latest omega and it works as is the second replacement switch. So i think we can rule out a broken track on the switch.
What would be the next step? New harness? Anyone has the part number for new one because harness from breakers is a bit of gamble i think...
Martin
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Having issues with passenger window switch works from drivers side but won't work with passenger side switch tried new loom still the same, got a drivers side switch coming tomorrow I hope, as apparently it may not be closing the circuit completely in turn not allowing the passenger switch to work
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Fitted New switch drivers side didn't make a difference had enough of it put it back together can stay as it is
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Having issues with passenger window switch works from drivers side but won't work with passenger side switch tried new loom still the same, got a drivers side switch coming tomorrow I hope, as apparently it may not be closing the circuit completely in turn not allowing the passenger switch to work
Rather than frig around randomly changing parts, get a meter out and PROVE the fault ;)
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Ok so got new passenger switch still not working can someone please tell me if I get a meter tomorrow how do I test if the wires are getting power to them there are 5 on the plug or do I test from the circuit board please help no sarcastic comments please also even though it operates from drivers side could it be the window motor not communicate with the switch
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Trace the wires from the switch to the motor and test them all for continuity.
Are we talking front door or rear? If rear, is the safety switch showing green or red?
Either way, if the switch on the drivers door moves the window then the door and motor are receiving power, which limits the problem to the loom between passenger switch and motor :y
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There's a white wire which feeds the passenger door switches from the drivers switch...
It exits the drivers switch at Pin 29.
Leaves the drivers door at Pin 31.
Enters passenger door at Pin 31.
Enters passenger switch at Pin 4.
Also to check...
GreyGreen wire between switch Pin 2 and motor Pin 2.
BlueRed wire between switch Pin 1 and motor Pin 3.
Door switch Pin 4 GreyYellow and Pin 5 Brown are only for switch illumination.
If the drivers switch doesn't operate the passenger window and the switch doesn't illuminate, then you probably have a break in the brown wire at Pin 1 on the door loom. This goes to the grounding point just above the passenger kick panel... the break most likely being inside the rubber hose between the door plug and the Apost :y
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Thankyou for your help it's very much appreciated it's the front passenger side it operates drivers side fine I have a spare loom I have untaped it to trace wires the red /blue and green grey split on to other parts of the door
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The blue and red and grey and green are likely to be where a fault is as the window opens from drivers side also everything else on the door works and switch does light light up the two wires spit to the motor and switch
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The blue and red and grey and green are likely to be where a fault is as the window opens from drivers side also everything else on the door works and switch does light light up the two wires spit to the motor and switch
That should be straightforward enough to check through... if there appears to be nothing untoward you can always swap the affected section over... but don't dismiss the white wire out of hand... it is this which supplies the switching current to the passenger door :y
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Ok so out of curiosity I unplug the motor and switch and connected to the other loom then plug into the door still the same so I imagine the problem is in the flexible connection
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Is there a wire on another part of the loon that's working and use that feed if theres a break in the flexible connection from the mirror electrics or something?
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Ok so out of curiosity I unplug the motor and switch and connected to the other loom then plug into the door still the same so I imagine the problem is in the flexible connection
If I have read that correctly, then that is correct :y
Is there a wire on another part of the loon that's working and use that feed if theres a break in the flexible connection from the mirror electrics or something?
Don't think so, mirror wiring is only connected to the window wiring by virtue of the switch being integral to the drivers door switch assembly and sharing the plugs between the body and doors... oh and some tape ;)
As an aside, does the passenger mirror do what you expect?
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Yes mirror works fine
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Is it possible to swap the white wire with the blue red or green grey just to find out which one is the problem?
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Connecting the White wire at the window switch to either the BlueRed or GreenGrey wire at the window motor with the ignition on should make the window move...
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Thanks will try