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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: Diamond Black Geezer on 26 October 2015, 14:14:10
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Basically in the right-hand lane of a dual carriageway, which was the straight ahead and right lane. An Insignia to the left of me (and slightly behind) in the ahead and left hand lane decided that he wanted to be right, and so drove into me, my girlfriend, my mate who was up for the weekend I hadn't seen in over a year, and my beloved V6 'Pissy Ho' (P151 HOH)
The results below.... :'(
A crunched wing, door, and a scrape running the entire length of her - wing, both doors and rear wing. Took the indicator lens, the rubbing strip, passenger door rubbing strip.
(http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm240/leflemmy/20151018_130741_zpssge03m4o.jpg)
(http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm240/leflemmy/20151018_130738_zpsmk1wru12.jpg)
Basically the crucial damage is the wing and door. The rear door and rear wing are paint-only damage. After an exchange of words at the roadside, where the guy was patiently explaining I was in the wrong, and suggesting things like why did I undertake him on the outside :o ::) after a call to the insurers all is sorted. Well, sorted int he sense that it was his fault, and I can claim. However, I have yet to find out exactly how much I'm going to have to play with to repair her. Assuming all replacement parts are free he paint and labour comes to just under £900, using new parts of course takes that bill to £1900-2000.
Aside from actually removing the bloke's testes with a chainsaw, anyone got any advice when (I assume it's a case of when, not if) the insurers tell me they're not willing to pay out the £1900 repair bill. In theory we will get the repair bill down to a level which they are willing to pay. But at this point I'm just waiting for them to get back to me, re: 'authorisation' by the engineers for the work.
Having never been in an accident, I don't want to get sold guff by insurers and lose out, or miss out on anything I'm entitled. I'm just looking for a way I can get my beautiful girl back to how she should look. Not after retribution, revenge, just a shiny Omega again. :(
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Meh! >:(
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I admit I had a little more than that to say when it happened ;)
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To the point Sir Tig...
When I get home I can give you the official times for that repair... Parts costs you can work out, and you can presume an insurance rate of around £25 per hour... This will then give you an idea of the repair costs vs value... And thereby what the likely outcome will be :-\
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Been to the Insurers super specialist repair peoples 'Just Car Clinic' ('the Autoglass of the car bodywork work', I think Taxi Al knows what I mean by this :y) and then to my local bodyshop place who did the roof respray (as good as the factory, really brilliant job) who have given me their opinion and costs.
But yes, Al, any further info would be gratefully received. After all, I'm sure my bodyshop guy is straight, and decent, however, as I've said before everybody has that mechanic who they'd recommend, some are good, some are bad. For all I know he's charging way too much, very good job though it is.
Our Plan A is - to get a vast bag of gold brought to me by a leprechaun (yeah right ::) ) through, of course, then use as many second hand parts as poss, to help bring the expenditure down. Hence my recent requests for PFL doors, trims etc. I'm aiming to use this as an opportunity to get my back arches (or at least 1 side) done, plus the odd other bits of bodywork.
Plan B is - when I get told they'll give me £1.97 for my car, I do something else. Not sure what that something is yet...
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Remember that until an insurer pays out it's YOUR car .... not theirs, so when they want to take it to their compound for assessment, you can tell them they can assess it on your drive/outside your house.
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Remember that until an insurer pays out it's YOUR car .... not theirs, so when they want to take it to their compound for assessment, you can tell them they can assess it on your drive/outside your house.
Dealing with insurers 101...
Even if it costs £750 to get your car towed home from Preston services :-[ :-X
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Yes. That I have been told by several people, but thank you nevertheless. There's been no mention of an assessor, but that may come. :y
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It's a simple insurance write-off. Just painting the side, let alone buying the parts and making the repairs to fit them, will exceed the value of the car.
So, argue like hell over what they offer you, and 'buy' the car back. They probably won't want much as it isn't worth anything.
Then, get a second hand wing and door, in the correct colour if possible(or as close to it as you can find). Fit everything yourself, and use the insurance money to have the side of the car painted. Use a small, backstreet firm to do this, as they will be much cheaper. If you strip and refit it yourself it ought to be cheaper still.
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Remember that until an insurer pays out it's YOUR car .... not theirs, so when they want to take it to their compound for assessment, you can tell them they can assess it on your drive/outside your house.
Dealing with insurers 101...
Even if it costs £750 to get your car towed home from Preston services :-[ :-X
Ouch :o :(
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It's a simple insurance write-off. Just painting the side, let alone buying the parts and making the repairs to fit them, will exceed the value of the car.
So, argue like hell over what they offer you, and 'buy' the car back. They probably won't want much as it isn't worth anything.
Then, get a second hand wing and door, in the correct colour if possible(or as close to it as you can find). Fit everything yourself, and use the insurance money to have the side of the car painted. Use a small, backstreet firm to do this, as they will be much cheaper. If you strip and refit it yourself it ought to be cheaper still.
Suspecting this will be Plan B, thanks again Nick :)
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If you're lucky, they might agree to a percentage of the bill rather than the whole write off/ buy back thing :-\
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That's interesting... Thanks. :) Will put that to them
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Mr Geezer
I've still got my pfl sat on the side of the house ;)
Shame I didn't know about this yesterday because I was sat in The Smugglers Arms having a beer / watching footy ::)
Could have popped round :(
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Ahh, thanks!
Not a worry, to be honest today is the first day I've managed to get my head straight with everything, and see things a bit clearer, less fuzzed my emotion etc.
PM incoming :)
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As said, they will write it off before even looking at it, in which case it'll probably be cat D, then you'll have to get a VIC and an MOT to get it back on the road then repair it with 2nd hand bits. :(
Failing that, drop your claim and repair it yourself with 2nd hand bits.
I doubt there'll be a lot financially between the 2 options and the latter will be much less hassle.
You could try pricing up a DIY repair and see if your insurers will just pay up. Maybe they will. :(
I would play heavy on any other benefits you're entitled to - courtesy car, etc. in the event that they do talk about a write off, as this will cost them far more than just settling with you for a couple of hundred quid's worth of parts.
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Thanks Kevin :)
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They will definatly write the car off on the year unless it was a Ferrari. Do the big haggle on valuation by rejecting the first two offers of half a bag of crisps then the half a bag of crisps and a Mars bar. Obtain the replacement parts yourself and get the fitted and/or painted by the body man you know and trust. Once done, you will have to contact DVLA to book a VIC check. Do not let the car be taken away by the insurance company or surrender the log book. Haggle, haggle. pester and haggle them over and over until they get fed up and you may get a settlement before Christmas and some where near your own figure. My own experiance took 4 1/2 years from incident to payout and they still stiffed me despite me complying with all there criteria
Keith ABS
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As of the 25th of October the VIC check no longer applies there is a form v62 I think you use to apply for the new V5
https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-identity-check
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Assuming it's the same shade you can buy this one near me as it looks to have the decent panels you need, I can give you a hand if you want with it being local
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/121794690283?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
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You could talk to the engineer and agree a cash in lieu settlement i have done this twice and it works out well for all.
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Hi, firstly, thanks to all.
Kevin, I've got a backup plan with locally sourced bits, including a Diamond Black saloon, some panels ok, some panels had an average respray during their lives. So it's not ideal but will get me straight and on the road again. I like your suggestion re: courtesy car etc, none of which I'm currently claiming, they can pay up a decent amount, or I can say 'right, I'll kick my car off the road, and you can pay for me to have a rental for as long as it takes to find me an equivalent Omega. Which won't happen until hell freezes over.' sort of logic.
Keith, I can see we'll be chatting more on this, you've clearly been through the ringer with them. Doesn't bode fabulous for me...
btc, good to know the rules, thanks :)
omegod, That's much appreciated. I've gone and 'played my joker', by accepting this local Omega for panels. So I've now used up the favour (my girlfriend's nanas driveway) for car storage. However, if there's any way I can get that car, or in an ideal world, just the driver's door, then I will. :y
rikki_essex, can you tell me more about this cash in lieu settlement, and how it works, please? Thanks :)
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My apologies, I got side tracked by some post when I got home and completely forgot about the methods timing :-[
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No worries. As and when. My car isn't sat undriveable in a compound racking up storage fees or anything, still perfectly driveable. :)
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No worries. As and when. My car isn't sat undriveable in a compound racking up storage fees or anything, still perfectly driveable. :)
If they write it off, it will no longer be drivable, so make it clear that, if they go that route, you will expect a courtesy car immediately, etc. etc. Alternatively, they can give you a cash settlement to fix it yourself. Make the latter option attractive enough and they will hopefully go for it. :y
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Oooohhhh, of course!!! Yes, you're quite right, soon as they do that I'm entitled to that! Right. this could start going good in the near future.
Had the engineer ring, who's going to send someone out to view the car (NOT take it away, just view, or he will be denied to ability to reproduce swiftly, using a 3/8 Halfords long ratchet :D) hopefully when I present the ring binder full of receipts for the last 6 months, and show him the jet black, brand new suspension that will at least present the case this is not an old banger that was headed for the scrappy in a few months anyway. I'm not expecting to be given a pot of gold, but her overall condition should at least present a reasonable case for repairing her, on some level. :)
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A bit of a bummer but circumstances may play out pretty well in the end. :y
I was initially offered £11.000 which I rejected immediately. We later agreed on £32,550 which I was more than satisfied with.
A conservatory not an Omega but the principle is the same.
Good luck. :y
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I have rung my insurance company and told them that I own a Vauxhall Conservatory 2.5 V6 :y
being serious, thanks, :) - just proves that hanging on will at the very least, mean they will be prepared to help a little more. :)
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I have rung my insurance company and told them that I own a Vauxhall Conservatory 2.5 V6 :y
being serious, thanks, :) - just proves that hanging on will at the very least, mean they will be prepared to help a little more. :)
Tell them it is the very rare Vauxhall Viceroy. :y
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Bugger. That's the killer for these old barges now, insurance killing them off for accidents.
I just put my reg into webuyanycar.com, came out at £50 value ;D ;D :'(
Would best option not to do claims via insurance? That way it won't be cat C or D, just repair it yourself?
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Hear what you're saying Tunnie, in theory, of course then I lose my no claims, which will cost me an extra hundred or whatever per year for the next couple of years until it starts to shrink again (or we hope, unless I/someone else runs into me one day) Of course that extra money spent on insurance may well still be cheaper than the many hundreds of personal cost I may have to run up simply doing her back up again.
What I think I'll be saying when Mr Engineer chappy appears is 'ok, feel free to write that car off, that's fine. Now what I need is for you to go and find me another. I don't want a CD, or an Elite, I want a CDX, thank you. Oh, not a facelift, please, prefacelift. Oh, and you should know that there's currently only 69 registered, that's it. And please note that the instant you declare that a writeoff I can't drive it, so I'll be needing a courtesy car for free, until such time as you find me a vehicle that does not exist.
Personally I think it'll be lots cheaper for you to give me something to help with the repairs to my car which wan't even my fault in the first place.
:)
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I had a non fault accident on a motorbike a few years ago and it didn't affect my premiums at all. :y
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Ok... see, either way I'm a little muddled. If I'm claiming off his insurance, for the damage to my vehicle, or claiming from mine for damage, either way both insurers must be effectively keen to shrug and not pay out? Sorry to be thick :)
It would help if I knew what monetary level I'm at least looking at currently, are they wanting to 'only' pay £1800 of the £1900 bill ( ::)) or are they only wanting to pay £50 of the £1900 bill?? The guy did mention over the phone '...if it's only worth say £6-700.." not sure if that was the value that was presented on his screen or he was simply using that as as off the top of his head figure for a 'paltry' sum for a car. As we all know, rather tragically, £700 could buy you a very nice Omega :( Not my Omega, of course, there's only one of them.
I have a £500 excess (I think £400 voluntary) so as far as I'm concerned that means £500 towards repairs is covered. I'm hoping that will be in my favour for haggling/helping with the claim. I'd have to stump up that from my own pocket if it were my fault, of course, but in this instance as a no-fault claim that's been waved.
This makes my brain ache!
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Has the third party admitted liability?
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He didn't at the scene, but it has now been determined as no-fault on my part. It's black and white, as he
effectively well, in actually left his lane to drive into me. :)
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OK, If the insurers have indicated it's no-fault your excess should be safe. :y
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Good, that's confirmed my thinking / logic. :y At least that means minimum, I've covered for £500 repairs. Which covers me for the £450 I've paid for this Omega locally. Now I need to sort some extra pence for other bodywork (eg: I can't chop and swap the rear wings, for instance)
Had I not already given the guy the nod and wink for his Diamond Black Omega, this £350 spares or repairs one would have been a life-saver. On the plus side, the rear doors on this one are mint. (they just need converting visually to prefacelift spec)
We're getting there :)
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As a guide I got paid £825 and kept the car for a pet 2.2 that had a scratched door, inspector dude was quite honest in that he was there to settle the claim and I basically named my price. If they start arsing around about value just send some Roger Budden links
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Cheers. Is that £825 the total, final; or was that £825 which you then had to buy your own car back, as it were?
I would very much like to have this assessor come round mine, if he just wants me to name my price :y
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Some murk to be cleared up as claims go...
Option one. Claim off TP insurers direct, you pay nuffin. (Ignoring the question of value/settlement vs repair cost).
Option two. Claim off your insurers, you pay your excess, potentially any salvage 'fee' and receive a cheque/keep car. Your insurer then claims costs (excess/payout less salvage fee) back from TP insurer. They then reimburse you your excess and reset your NCD.
Option one should see your car and NCD unaffected with some sort of renumeration/repair agreed.
Option two really screws you start to finish. Sure you keep the car, but it costs you financially and in hassle/stress.
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Ok, the repair times for your damage as you proposed are as follows:
Total repair time of 24.6 decimal hours presuming that neither wing or door was the correct colour and required prep/paint.
This consists of the following:
12 decimal hours to remove, refit and paint NS front wing and NS front door.
12.6 decimal hours to repaint NS rear door and NS wing.
However, if you replace the front wing and BOTH doors with Diamond Black items, then paint just the rear wing then the total repair time would be reduced to 14.1 decimal hours.
This consists of the following:
6.7 decimal hours to remove and refit the NS front wing, NS front door and NS rear door.
7.4 decimal hours to repaint NS rear wing.
In short, assuming an insurance body shop labour rate of £25+vat, so £30 inc per hour...
Option 1.
24.6 hours @ £25 gives a total cost of £615 + vat or £738 inc.
Option 2.
14.1 hours @ £25 gives a total of £352.50 + vat or £423 inc.
Obviously these are the Thatcham TTS times, not a fixed amount, and don't include the cost of parts or materials.
It should however allow you to build a reasoned estimate if you can price the wing/doors and add £75 for paint/materials.
Hth :y
Edit to add following image... this is where the timings came from :y
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Cheers. Is that £825 the total, final; or was that £825 which you then had to buy your own car back, as it were?
I would very much like to have this assessor come round mine, if he just wants me to name my price :y
I valued it at £1k , I got a bit cheeky and said throw a carvery on top ( £25) and I'll settle. Salvage value was £200 at the time so I kept the car and £825. I'd only paid £250 for the car so was quite happy, especially when the scratches buffed out ;D
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In short, assuming an insurance body shop labour rate of £25+vat, so £30 inc per hour...
I'd have thought this is on the low side. No? :-\ More like £40-50 per hour? :(
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In short, assuming an insurance body shop labour rate of £25+vat, so £30 inc per hour...
I'd have thought this is on the low side. No? :-\ More like £40-50 per hour? :(
I suspect insurance companies beat down the hourly rates well below what a paying customer would be offered. Hence why you normally get a half-@rsed job.
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Al, thanks for that it's appreciated. Those times/prices are very close to what I've been quoted. (don't have the sheet on me, but from memory total labour+paint was damn-near £800, so given easily-fluctuating labour charges from place to place, as Sir Tig says, could be £40-50/hr, £8000 vs £731 to me is tomato tomarto)
at present I have a donor car with shiny (just plenty of imperfections in the paint, slight orangepeel) doors. The NSF wing however looks original paint.
In theory that means use the 'free' doors and wing of the donor car, and the only panels which need paint, are rear door and rear wing.
Of course still be arguing whatever I can possibly get from them, not in a money-grabbing sense, but literally to give me room/margin for other things- like ideally a decent paint job on the front door and trims etc.
The direct route of the Third Party's Insurers was suggested to me by a mate, so that's two advocates for that route. As you say, the faff and ballache of my insurance does start to get convoluted.
Omegod, that seems fair do's and you / we are entitled to value our own vehicles at whatever we want, because, biased though we are, we do know the true value of them. At the end of the day, scratches and dings, and age on the bopdywork, I'd like to find the Black Omega PFL with brand new and/or refurbished front suspension and brakes, a recent cambelt, new exhaust, new gearbox oil, and 3-week old roof paint and rain sensing screen. There's only one of those in the world! :y
I'll get in touch with the TP's insurers, and see what they say. :)
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And I'm sure they do, Kevin :y
However my bodyshop managed to undercut the insurer's bodyshop, mainly so that he gets the job, whereupon whatever was left by claiming for new parts, but using second hand, would basically mean we could possibly work on some other areas of bodywork which want attention, with what was left over. :)
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In short, assuming an insurance body shop labour rate of £25+vat, so £30 inc per hour...
I'd have thought this is on the low side. No? :-\ More like £40-50 per hour? :(
I suspect insurance companies beat down the hourly rates well below what a paying customer would be offered. Hence why you normally get a half-@rsed job.
That is exactly what happens, the hourly rate is much lower than a 'cash' customer would be charged. But if you look at the estimate, it will list the times for the work required and include something like parts at MRP. This is where the bodyshop's profit is made as they will NOT be paying Manufacturer's Retail Price!
The recovery business is similar; the providers pay about half what the rate ought to be, so turnover is essential to stay in business. You make your money on the extras that are charged directly to the customer - skates for immobile vehicles, specialist winching etc - or from your own customers who are charged 'correctly'.
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Right, That tallies with what I suspected, in that when I looked at the prices for lenses and trims etc... I was thinking 'hang on, I don't get charged that much when I go into Vx'.. because they always charge me trade these days. :)
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When the slam panel was welded in and painted by my former Vx dealer, they charged £25 an hour as that was all that the insurers would pay, and all that the local competition were charging...
Local place I have used of late, charge £100 per panel for paint only... So probably around the same hourly rate allowing for materials etc :-\
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Yep, about £100 a panel sounds about right. :)
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When the slam panel was welded in and painted by my former Vx dealer, they charged £25 an hour as that was all that the insurers would pay, and all that the local competition were charging...
Local place I have used of late, charge £100 per panel for paint only... So probably around the same hourly rate allowing for materials etc :-\
Al is correct,most bodyshops are members of the Vrba which caps there bodywork labour rate,any mechanical work needed before paint work though is charged at normal dealer rate
http://www.vbra.co.uk
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Well, update:
Including keeping the car, I have been offered £590. >:(
The assessor, who seemed pretty fair, on my side, etc, was only able to find one CDX 2.5V6 for sale anywhere, (FL, which isn't the same of course) at £950. Well my point was if he can find me a prefacelift CDX, which has had new front suspension, full roof respray, full set of 8mm Michelins, new cambelt, refurbished brakes, the lot for £590 then he's a better man than I. :(
Now contacting the bloke who crashed into me's insurers direct, to see what they will offer.
Worst case I get £590 which pays for the donor car I've bought, but means yours truly does every bit of work.
All I can say is don't drive on the roads - there are other people driving on there!
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You may have already done it, but having been through this with my Gold Estate recently I got the settlement up by simply saying that the offer they had made was not sufficient and that I was in no rush and would be happy to wait for them to call me back. A few days went by and they called back with a better offer :y
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I've refused it, so he's said they'll be in touch with me in due course. As you say, they may tweak it up. Who knows?
Not after blood, not after 'have you had an accident in the last three years', not after money to live off my own private island forever, just to see my car back in the same shape that it was 3 weeks ago, after an accident that wasn't my fault. :(
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New update:
rung his insurance (Swinton) and been told because my insurance company are dealing with it they can't do anything. Makes very little sense to me, because Swinton are dealing with it, as it's their driver who caused the incident etc. All my insurance company are here is the 'middle man' between myself and Swinton. Like ringing a factory and saying 'can I buy a pair of boots?' 'no sorry we don't sell boots, go to one of our shops', perhaps?
Don't know if that's rubbish I've been told by Swinton?
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Idiots.
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The word did cross my mind...
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Swinton are not insurers .. they are insurance brokers/agents... the actual insurer of the guy who hit you is NOT and never will be "Swinton" .. but an actual insurer from the bunch that Swinton use.
Unfortunately Swinton will not give you the info .. you need to read the insured drivers Insurance Certificate to be absolutely accurate.
Swinton will have got him to use their claim line which will have appointed a third party Claims Handler... for two reasons .. they make commission from the claim and .. most importantly to them .. they are outside the Insurance Ombudsman system.
Your chances of dealing successfully with Swinton are nil .. if you can get to the insured drivers actual insurance company BEFORE Swintons Claims handlers tell them to write off the vehicle you MIGHT have some luck ... but don't count on it ... their Claims guys wrote Chris's car off without permission and once on the DVLA system it cannot be changed.
I wouldn't touch Swinton with a barge pole, even if I was on fire at the time
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There is a word which most aptly describes Swinton...
Sadly all I recall is that it rhymes with cants... so I shall run with my second choice...
Onanists. :-X
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There is a word which most aptly describes Swinton...
Sadly all I recall is that it rhymes with cants... so I shall run with my second choice...
Onanists. :-X
That's a southern rhyme. Up here it rhymes with punts.
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When mine was written off early this year i was insured through Swinton. If you then go through Swintons claims procedure you will probably, or should say that your 3rd party, will have to deal with Quindell. These are a claims management company with very high costs which other insurers are not very keen on paying. Mine was also a no fault claim but still had to jump through hoops but in the end i got a reasonable deal. Good luck with yours.
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New update:
rung his insurance (Swinton) and been told because my insurance company are dealing with it they can't do anything. Makes very little sense to me, because Swinton are dealing with it, as it's their driver who caused the incident etc. All my insurance company are here is the 'middle man' between myself and Swinton. Like ringing a factory and saying 'can I buy a pair of boots?' 'no sorry we don't sell boots, go to one of our shops', perhaps?
Don't know if that's rubbish I've been told by Swinton?
Same situation I ended up with when dealing with mum's accident in the summer... Never, ever involve your own insurers if you want to deal with theirs ::)
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Sadly I didn't know this before ringing my insurers after the smash.
I did get through to Quindell, actually, but to no avail. We'll see what happens next...
Sweet fa I suspect! :D
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With mum's car I managed to get the 3rd party to assess the vehicle and they instructed her insurers to more than double their offer to the figure I had in mind :y
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I think I've had the 3rd party's assessor view my car - I will check, however, 'who he was working for' (James Bond style)
Annoyingly the guy seemed very fair, and the bodyshop guy said how decent he was, they'd met before etc. and how he appreciated the rarity of them now. But, upon stating he'd found another sell recently for £950 (a X-plate FL CDX, frankly far more numerous than PFL, but whatever), said he'd "go top end" for me, at £590, given the Glass's guide (out of date, I might add) states the car is worth between £350-£600. ::)
All good fun.
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It,s a sad fact of life that if you own and cherish an older car and you are unlucky enough to be involved in a no fault accident,all the time and effort you have put into your pride and joy is, sadly worth bugger all as far as insurance companies are concerned. By the time mine was sorted out with phone calls and e-mails,( even though the settlement i got in the end was reasonable if not spectacular), i sometimes felt that i was the guilty party, even though i wasn,t anywhere near the car at the time. Screw as much out of the bastids as you can. >:(. rant over ---and breath, aahh. :D
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Yup, sadly I didn't start this with that mentality, but it's getting that way... :)
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Gentlemen, an advance.... just.
Basically, I should have been told this last week... as far as they're concerned the assessor has advised top book price on the car (as per above, an out of date book price) but given the rarity, if I can present some hard evidence, in writing to them, of a different valuation on the car, they can re-consider the claim. I can then pop this into my local Swinton branch (who are five mins walk from my workplace, handily) who will pass it on. :)
So... if anyone can find me a PFL Omega 2.5 V6 CDX / Elite which has had all the major and expensive jobs done recently, suspension front and rear, geometry, timing belt, exhaust, cam covers, brand new Michelins all round, gearbox oil and filter, let me know.
Also, if you can ask the man selling that car if his pet flying pig could give me a lift to the hen dentists, that'd be great. ::)
Seriously, though, if there are any comparable For Sale Omega Ads which we can send them, on OOF or otherwise, it will help me massively. :)
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Thats the problem i had when i contested the valuation on my 2.2. Trying to get similar quotes for a car of the same specs, conditions and values proved, for me, to be akin to the needle in the haystack. Best of luck in your quest mate. :y
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Thanks. :) So far all I've found in the 'decent nick, recently serviced, lots of work done underneath' etc category are FLs of wildly varying specs. And the only PFLs are either, ropey old GLS dogs that haven't had an oil change since Blair was on the Throne or, bizarrely, Limos and Hearses :(
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Get someone on here to stick their omega on eBay for a week, then withdraw it.
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Get someone on here to stick their omega on eBay for a squillion quid for a week, then withdraw it.
I'd do it for you but mines a superior facelift. ;)
I did have an ebay listing of an LPG'd Omega where they wanted £1800 saved for this very purpose, but accidentally deleted it. :(
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Get someone on here to stick their omega on eBay for a week, then withdraw it.
Here do? (http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=133370.0) :-X
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That's a bummer
Speak to the insurers and state you want to buy the car back - I reckon £300 to £500 with paintwork should have it sorted. Panels are negligible cost - just paintwork costly unless you managed to get right colour panels. Even more of an annoyance as I recently scrapped a pfl omega with good NS panels - grrr
Don't let the car out of your sight - don't let it go anywhere!! A mate of mine some years ago wrote off his Sierra cosworth with leather - he finally got the clearance to buy it back adjusted, off the insurance payout, but by that time, the yard it was recovered to assumed it to be a total loss and the leather interior went !!
Good luck
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Thanks all, yes, the potential for someone advertising their Omega, and me handing those details to the insurers would be very handy, not that I'm suggesting anyone advertise their car at a falsely high price, of course :).
Thanks for the link Taxi Al
Will report back :y
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A previous buyer of my Elite had a report done by mycarcheck.com This was on 14/09/10 and it came up with the following:
Number of former keepers 3[4 owners]
Valuation;new [approx.]£27,419
Forecourt;£1,720
Private sale;£1,231
Trade in;£978
Auction;£864
That's for a year 2000 3.0L Elite,so make of those figures what you will.
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Thanks young man :y