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Title: Handbrake q...
Post by: 05omegav6 on 17 November 2015, 12:06:28
Hand brake release/return spring? Mot item?
Title: Re: Handbrake q...
Post by: Nick W on 17 November 2015, 12:25:04
Well, the H/B needs to release so yes. But it's hardly a precision part, so you must be able to find something suitable. Even if that means robbing one off your other cars.
Title: Re: Handbrake q...
Post by: tigers_gonads on 17 November 2015, 12:35:18
Definitely yes  :y
I know because i've been failed on a week spring before  >:(
Title: Re: Handbrake q...
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 17 November 2015, 13:05:16
I've seen many a spring adapted to work, however, no idea what Vx would charge, but can't imagine being the earth. How soon were you requiring it? (hoping to christ that they won't have to special order it in from Germany and t takes as long as a windscreen to get here  ::) )
Title: Re: Handbrake q...
Post by: 05omegav6 on 17 November 2015, 13:27:33
Ta :y suspected as much...

Typically, the weather has gone from shit to horrific ::)
Title: Re: Handbrake q...
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 17 November 2015, 13:44:49
But on the bright side, the instant you walk indoors, take off the soaking clothes and break our the swarfega, the sun will break out and immediately become unseasonably brilliant and warm. This is how weather works.  :)


I say we vote an OOFer once every week to do a pain of a job, in the foulest of weather. The instant they're finished, the weather will go lovely - as is sod's law - and the rest of us can then rush outside and do our wishbones, idler arms, handbrake shoe change, rear bearings, cambelts in sunshine and warmth!

Hope you get sorted soon.
Title: Re: Handbrake q...
Post by: 05omegav6 on 17 November 2015, 16:43:28
As an aside, should there be one on each side?

I nicked the nearside one with a grinder, don't ask, and have subsequently discovered that offside doesn't have one...

Guessing I need to buy two ::)
Title: Re: Handbrake q...
Post by: Nick W on 17 November 2015, 16:49:01


I say we vote an OOFer once every week to do a pain of a job, in the foulest of weather. The instant they're finished, the weather will go lovely - as is sod's law - and the rest of us can then rush outside and do our wishbones, idler arms, handbrake shoe change, rear bearings, cambelts in sunshine and warmth!



For the full effect, you need to make them start a job just before it gets dark so that they finish at 02:49 hours. At which point there is a power cut so a nice warm shower isn't a possibility.


Count me out of this, by the way, I've done far worse professionally and you couldn't stomach the swearing ;D
Title: Re: Handbrake q...
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 17 November 2015, 16:50:23
You'll probably find Vx sells the springs in packs of 5 or something...  ::)
Title: Re: Handbrake q...
Post by: Nick W on 17 November 2015, 17:21:32
You'll probably find Vx sells the springs in packs of 5 or something...  ::)


Or, they are £0.27 each. But, of the two that are left in the worldwide parts system, one is in Worthing and the other was accidentally sent to Easter Island and will be another 3weeks.
Title: Re: Handbrake q...
Post by: terry paget on 17 November 2015, 17:27:26
They are handed left and right, left hand is sod to get off and I usually cut it off to save time.
Title: Re: Handbrake q...
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 18 November 2015, 09:55:11
They are handed left and right, left hand is sod to get off and I usually cut it off to save time.


Oh, they ruddy would be!
Title: Re: Handbrake q...
Post by: 05omegav6 on 18 November 2015, 10:25:03
Nothing a couple of paperclips won't solve ::)

Will pick up a fittings kit from helfrods on the way home... Spring length is almost irrelevant as I will need to drill new holes in the backing plates :-X
Title: Re: Handbrake q...
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 18 November 2015, 10:36:47
Option 2 is I suppose strip down, fit new/refurbed backplates, requiring new rear bearings while you're at it, but that's turning a pig of a job into a whole field full of pigs.  :(

At least if you did go to that level you'd know the backplates won't need looking at for another 100k+  :-\
Title: Re: Handbrake q...
Post by: 05omegav6 on 18 November 2015, 10:52:26
Not going to happen... Even if I fitted new backing plates, I would still need to drill them as the holes are vanished in making clearance for the calipers... ;)
Title: Re: Handbrake q...
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 18 November 2015, 10:58:51
Ah, fair dos... you run Monaro rear calipers, yes?
Title: Re: Handbrake q...
Post by: 05omegav6 on 18 November 2015, 11:39:24
Ah, fair dos... you run Monaro rear calipers, yes?
Do now, following the debacle in obtaining, or not, new vented calipers...
Title: Re: Handbrake q...
Post by: 05omegav6 on 18 November 2015, 14:40:17
9156405 apparently... Pair on order :y
Title: Re: Handbrake q...
Post by: EMD on 18 November 2015, 16:29:23
They are handed left and right, left hand is sod to get off and I usually cut it off to save time.

They usually fall off  ;D Not too bad putting them back on if you use a small pair of vice grips .
Make sure gloves are worn to prevent hand mutilation when you slip  ::)
Title: Re: Handbrake q...
Post by: Nick W on 18 November 2015, 16:36:40
Anyone fiddling about with brake springs, including the ones inside drums should get one of these  http://sealey.co.uk/PLPageBuilder.asp?gotonode=ViewProduct&method=mViewProduct&productid=12583&promotionid=74630&promotiontitleid=440 (http://sealey.co.uk/PLPageBuilder.asp?gotonode=ViewProduct&method=mViewProduct&productid=12583&promotionid=74630&promotiontitleid=440)  It's worth the retail price listed there, but you can get them cheaper.
Title: Re: Handbrake q...
Post by: EMD on 18 November 2015, 16:39:28
Anyone fiddling about with brake springs, including the ones inside drums should get one of these  http://sealey.co.uk/PLPageBuilder.asp?gotonode=ViewProduct&method=mViewProduct&productid=12583&promotionid=74630&promotiontitleid=440 (http://sealey.co.uk/PLPageBuilder.asp?gotonode=ViewProduct&method=mViewProduct&productid=12583&promotionid=74630&promotiontitleid=440)  It's worth the retail price listed there, but you can get them cheaper.

Hm could quite easily be made  :) Got a few spare tent pegs here .
Title: Re: Handbrake q...
Post by: Nick W on 18 November 2015, 16:43:58
Anyone fiddling about with brake springs, including the ones inside drums should get one of these  http://sealey.co.uk/PLPageBuilder.asp?gotonode=ViewProduct&method=mViewProduct&productid=12583&promotionid=74630&promotiontitleid=440 (http://sealey.co.uk/PLPageBuilder.asp?gotonode=ViewProduct&method=mViewProduct&productid=12583&promotionid=74630&promotiontitleid=440)  It's worth the retail price listed there, but you can get them cheaper.

Hm could quite easily be made  :) Got a few spare tent pegs here .


It's heat treated so that the very fine hook(the key to its usefulness) stays a hook and doesn't straighten out. Unlike a tent peg or the welding rod I've used in the past. I paid less than a fiver for mine, and rarely use anything else on small springs. Saves a lot of swearing, unlike most of the other brake tools I have.
Title: Re: Handbrake q...
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 19 November 2015, 09:44:28
The usual method I use has been levering in a screwdriver, and pinging it out, with the associated parts flying in all directions, some never to be found again. This 'hook' of which you speak does have a certain appeal  :)
Title: Re: Handbrake q...
Post by: terry paget on 19 November 2015, 19:04:27
I put some wire behind the spring, pull the ends towards me, twist them together, put a screwdriver through my loop, and pull. What is tricky is unhooking the spring from the brake lever to release the cable on the LHS. After a minute trying I cut it off.
Title: Re: Handbrake q...
Post by: Shallow Al on 20 November 2015, 23:43:15
Anyone fiddling about with brake springs, including the ones inside drums should get one of these  http://sealey.co.uk/PLPageBuilder.asp?gotonode=ViewProduct&method=mViewProduct&productid=12583&promotionid=74630&promotiontitleid=440 (http://sealey.co.uk/PLPageBuilder.asp?gotonode=ViewProduct&method=mViewProduct&productid=12583&promotionid=74630&promotiontitleid=440)  It's worth the retail price listed there, but you can get them cheaper.
Looks like it might be useful to get radios out....delicately of course ??? ???