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Title: Market for 3.0 manual with no MOT?
Post by: markh1 on 07 December 2015, 17:50:41
Chaps,
The omega has failed its MOT on two broken rear coil springs, no reserve travel in handbrake and inbalance in rear brakes.
I am going to get rid of it at some point in the next 6 months (impending baby and wife wants something new with isofix) and trying to work out if its worth repairing it or getting rid of it as is.
Anyone know the rough difference in value/demand of it as it stands vs with a fresh MOT?
The car is a 3.0 manual Elite that is cosmetically tired with 125k miles but still drives very well
thanks
Title: Re: Market for 3.0 manual with no MOT?
Post by: aaronjb on 07 December 2015, 17:55:21
I got under £500 for a 3.2 Elite with less miles but probably similar condition about a year ago, if memory serves.. and that had a current MOT and no major mechanical problems.
Title: Re: Market for 3.0 manual with no MOT?
Post by: markh1 on 07 December 2015, 17:58:42
ok thanks and I presume with no MOT it is probably scrap value of £100?
Title: Re: Market for 3.0 manual with no MOT?
Post by: STEMO on 07 December 2015, 18:01:07
ok thanks and I presume with no MOT it is probably scrap value of £100?
You'd probably get more stripping for spares if you have the time. Scrap values have plummeted.
Title: Re: Market for 3.0 manual with no MOT?
Post by: TheBoy on 07 December 2015, 18:24:00
Breaking for spares will give the best financial return (and weighing in whats left).
Title: Re: Market for 3.0 manual with no MOT?
Post by: omegod on 07 December 2015, 18:25:48
Gearbox and prop are worth up to £150 if working ok, popular with engine conversions/kit cars   
Title: Re: Market for 3.0 manual with no MOT?
Post by: EMD on 07 December 2015, 19:52:55
Is it an estate  ::)
Title: Re: Market for 3.0 manual with no MOT?
Post by: biggriffin on 07 December 2015, 19:58:55
Chaps,
The omega has failed its MOT on two broken rear coil springs, no reserve travel in handbrake and inbalance in rear brakes.
I am going to get rid of it at some point in the next 6 months (impending baby and wife wants something new with isofix) and trying to work out if its worth repairing it or getting rid of it as is.
Anyone know the rough difference in value/demand of it as it stands vs with a fresh MOT?
The car is a 3.0 manual Elite that is cosmetically tired with 125k miles but still drives very well
thanks

There a circling! Diddly fiddley dee. 
And only 110 posts mmm.
Title: Re: Market for 3.0 manual with no MOT?
Post by: tunnie on 07 December 2015, 20:26:17
Where in Surrey are you?
Title: Re: Market for 3.0 manual with no MOT?
Post by: markh1 on 07 December 2015, 22:33:37
Thanks for the replies gents.

im in south west london now with no driveway.

I have ordered some springs and am going to have a go at sorting it, even if it means lying in the road.

 I have had it nearly 8 years and can't let it be dragged off for scrap!

I won't be keeping it forever so will stick it up for sale on Piston Heads in the spring.
Title: Re: Market for 3.0 manual with no MOT?
Post by: tunnie on 07 December 2015, 22:48:39
I have had it nearly 8 years and can't let it be dragged off for scrap!

I know what you mean, had my 2.2 for over 10 years now  :o

Title: Re: Market for 3.0 manual with no MOT?
Post by: aaronjb on 08 December 2015, 10:41:05
Whereabouts in SW London? You might find someone local willing to lend a hand.. shame it has no MOT as if you could get it over here one weekend there's a dry garage to work in (can't guarantee warm though  ;D)
Title: Re: Market for 3.0 manual with no MOT?
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 08 December 2015, 16:58:50
Sounds a lot of graft, and it will take a bit, but rear springs are dead, dead easy, and the rest isn't really a bad lift of MoT failures. Mine was a failure sheet of 14 items, and I got the lot done in a week!  :D (oh, that included back shocks which are very very nearly the same job/as easy to do as rear springs.


Rip the calipers apart and clean, service ..or.. replace with known good second hand ones. Depending on cost vs time for the fairly small cost of used rear calipers, probably as well to just bang on some new old ones  :)

Nothing insurmountable there  :y
Title: Re: Market for 3.0 manual with no MOT?
Post by: aaronjb on 08 December 2015, 17:00:49
Don't forget resetting the handbrake properly (slacken adjuster at lever, set the shoe adjusters just shy of drag both sides, reset lever adjustment to 'just snug') which is a little annoying but not really difficult.
Title: Re: Market for 3.0 manual with no MOT?
Post by: 05omegav6 on 08 December 2015, 17:03:38
Brake imbalance could be a side effect of the handbrake not releasing...

Also, if you're having work done in relation to an MoT, it can be driven to/from where that work is carried out... not sure if legal that includes private workshops, and certainly, apart from fuel, stopping/carrying passengers/travelling via/shopping en route... would all be frowned upon :-\
Title: Re: Market for 3.0 manual with no MOT?
Post by: JoeRadosavljevich on 08 December 2015, 18:34:43
Thanks for the replies gents.

im in south west london now with no driveway.

I have ordered some springs and am going to have a go at sorting it, even if it means lying in the road.

 I have had it nearly 8 years and can't let it be dragged off for scrap!

I won't be keeping it forever so will stick it up for sale on Piston Heads in the spring.


that's the spirit. who cares what wifes say
Title: Re: Market for 3.0 manual with no MOT?
Post by: STEMO on 08 December 2015, 18:57:00
Thanks for the replies gents.

im in south west london now with no driveway.

I have ordered some springs and am going to have a go at sorting it, even if it means lying in the road.

 I have had it nearly 8 years and can't let it be dragged off for scrap!

I won't be keeping it forever so will stick it up for sale on Piston Heads in the spring.


that's the spirit. who cares what wifes say
Errr......not quite. Lying under a car in the road in London carries a lot more risk than just the wife.  ;D
Title: Re: Market for 3.0 manual with no MOT?
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 09 December 2015, 11:35:30
Agree with above, worth resetting / looking at handbrake first before you go ordering replacement calipers. I ownly gravitated to that because I know my rear ones have crumbly, perished dust boots etc, and I already have some spare ones waiting...

Brand new genuine GM rear pads are available for £9.95 presently, including pins and springs, should you find the pads are low/bare steel :y
Title: Re: Market for 3.0 manual with no MOT?
Post by: markh1 on 09 December 2015, 14:34:49
Again, thanks for all the replies and ideas chaps.

New springs have arrived so I will have a stab at fitting those this weekend and will faff about with the handbrake at the same time.

It's been such a great car and has never let me down and will miss it when it finally goes!
Title: Re: Market for 3.0 manual with no MOT?
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 09 December 2015, 16:46:37
The 'drop the diff' method works wonders. How To is about on here somewhere, but having done the job once before with the faff and agony of spring compressors, it's so much easier just dropping everything out of the way first.

Oh, another little hint/tip - make sure the pigtails point rearward (I think I've remembered that right) also the springs can slip slightly out of true as you lower the car/start to nip things up, as as it's pretty dingy and dark under there easy to miss. So make sure the spring, cup etc is 'home' when you do it. But dead easy, really. Frankly easier than an oil change!  :)
Title: Re: Market for 3.0 manual with no MOT?
Post by: markh1 on 12 December 2015, 20:04:02
Managed to change the springs this morning, as you guys said; a fairly easy job! Both of the old springs had broken at the bottom. I will be interested to feel the difference in the drive.

The brake issue was a sticking piston which is hopefully solved now!

I adjusted the handbrake by moving the little adjuster behind the disk but I couldn't get to the handbrake cable before the trolley jack gave up the ghost. It does however feel tighter now so hopefully it will scrape through the restest on Monday.

If it doesn't I will just get the garage to sort it!
Title: Re: Market for 3.0 manual with no MOT?
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 12 December 2015, 20:39:13
Good work! and good luck with the test!  :y
Title: Re: Market for 3.0 manual with no MOT?
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 14 December 2015, 15:36:36
Managed to change the springs this morning, as you guys said; a fairly easy job! Both of the old springs had broken at the bottom. I will be interested to feel the difference in the drive.

The brake issue was a sticking piston which is hopefully solved now!

I adjusted the handbrake by moving the little adjuster behind the disk but I couldn't get to the handbrake cable before the trolley jack gave up the ghost. It does however feel tighter now so hopefully it will scrape through the restest on Monday.

If it doesn't I will just get the garage to sort it!

Please tell us you haven't been crawling around under cars without axle stands?  :o Anyway, looks like the old beast shall live for another year, as you say, if not, the garage will be able to tweak the handbrake etc if needs be. To be honest a cable handbrake is, in principle, the easiest thing to work on; in reality I think I've lost more hours of sleep and skin off my knuckles over handbrakes than any other part of a car!
Title: Re: Market for 3.0 manual with no MOT?
Post by: markh1 on 14 December 2015, 16:43:29
It passed!! 5 hours lying on the road was worth it!

Thanks for all the help guys! much appreciated!

And yes, I was using axle stands. The part of the jack which broke is the the plate that attaches to the piston (weld snapped) It can be mended.
Title: Re: Market for 3.0 manual with no MOT?
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 14 December 2015, 16:45:38
Good news! As you say, well worth it  :)
Title: Re: Market for 3.0 manual with no MOT?
Post by: markh1 on 14 December 2015, 17:48:55
just checked howmanyleft.co.uk and there are only 12 manual Elites left on the road!! Best look after it!
Title: Re: Market for 3.0 manual with no MOT?
Post by: henryd on 14 December 2015, 17:51:20
just checked howmanyleft.co.uk and there are only 12 manual Elites left on the road!! Best look after it!

Look after your other car too,me like them,the Cerbera that is :y :y



                             
                             
                         
Title: Re: Market for 3.0 manual with no MOT?
Post by: Varche on 14 December 2015, 18:05:36
result, well done :y