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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: terry paget on 12 December 2015, 21:00:59
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I am scrapping 1998 blue PFL 2.0 manual petrol estate GLS W0L0VBF35W1243950. 2000 PFL 2.5 manual estate V6 CDX WOLOVBM35X1080638 is a lovely car, but the rear doors windows do not move, they have been spragged up with timber (they were originally electrically operated). The GLS has manually wound windows which work. Both cars are the same colour.
Can I simply swop the doors between cars, to give me opening doors on the 2.5 CDX, or is it not that simple?
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Perfect, straightforward swap :y
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Perfect, straightforward swap :y
Thanks, great news.
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Probably not a good idea to post chassis numbers on a public forum :y
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They physical fit.
Removing the black, stuck on rubbing strip without damaging paintwork needs a lot of patience. The bolted on FL one comes off easy :). Need to swap door cards over to match, which may be issue if one is electric and other is manual.
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Ignore that, both are PFL ;D
Front doors are interchangeable across all Omega-Bs, and rears are interchangeable if body style is same (saloon or estate). You need to swap some bits to match style difference between models and variations.
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Perfect, straightforward swap :y
Thanks, Al. As you said, perfect straightforward fit. Job is done. Door card, trim colour is different, though. Donor car was dark blue, recipient car light grey. Cards look interchangeable except there are no holes in the grey cards for the window winders. Simple job with a hole saw?
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Perfect, straightforward swap :y
Thanks, Al. As you said, perfect straightforward fit. Job is done. Door card, trim colour is different, though. Donor car was dark blue, recipient car light grey. Cards look interchangeable except there are no holes in the grey cards for the window winders. Simple job with a hole saw?
I doubt the hole is much bigger than the winder spindle. Which makes it a job for a drill bit. If it goes through cloth, use a handbrace or you will pull a lot of threads.
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Helpful advice for me as well but just to clarify, can I swap doors from a FL to a PFL? Not worried about outside trim I just need doors that are rust free!
Jon
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Helpful advice for me as well but just to clarify, can I swap doors from a FL to a PFL? Not worried about outside trim I just need doors that are rust free!
Jon
Yes. Obviously need to swap out doorcard and possibly door door and mirror.
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Helpful advice for me as well but just to clarify, can I swap doors from a FL to a PFL? Not worried about outside trim I just need doors that are rust free!
Jon
Yes. Obviously need to swap out doorcard and possibly door door and mirror and loom.
Due to window wiring differences :y
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Helpful advice for me as well but just to clarify, can I swap doors from a FL to a PFL? Not worried about outside trim I just need doors that are rust free!
Jon
Yes. Obviously need to swap out doorcard and possibly door door and mirror and loom.
Due to window wiring differences :y
Yup, and SRS sensor wiring if pre 98 door
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Perfect, straightforward swap :y
Thanks, Al. As you said, perfect straightforward fit. Job is done. Door card, trim colour is different, though. Donor car was dark blue, recipient car light grey. Cards look interchangeable except there are no holes in the grey cards for the window winders. Simple job with a hole saw?
I doubt the hole is much bigger than the winder spindle. Which makes it a job for a drill bit. If it goes through cloth, use a handbrace or you will pull a lot of threads.
Good advice Nick. The hole is a 30mm hole, and is marked by indentation on the door card. I am nervous of putting a hole saw straight through the card, even with a brace, lest I pull lots of threads. I am considering bathing the area of cloth to be cut with Araldite to contain the threads. Does this sound sensible, is there a better way of doing it?
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Further thought. If the fabric is synthetic, perhaps I could fuse it with a hot air gun or soldering iron.
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Bear in mind, I haven't seen an Omega door card for a winder, but 30mm seems really large to me.
All of the door cards I've seen have a hole little larger than the spindle and a much larger circular trim piece to cover the gap which would be about your diameter.
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You could always fit the GLS door cards ::)
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Bear in mind, I haven't seen an Omega door card for a winder, but 30mm seems really large to me.
All of the door cards I've seen have a hole little larger than the spindle and a much larger circular trim piece to cover the gap which would be about your diameter.
Terry has door cards with the winder holes so he already knows what size hole is required ;-)
To minimise thread pulling I would drill a pilot hole from the back (or maybe just push a nail through) then cut a cross in the fabric and trim away the unwanted fabric before drilling the full size hole.
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You could always fit the GLS door cards ::)
The GLS door cards came with the doors, but they are dark blue in colour, and the CDX car trim is light grey. I know it's not important, the car had immovable rear windows when I bought it, but jobs are scarce in January, all my 8 cars are running, so I thought I would switch door cards this weekend. The only snag is the CDX cards lacked the manual winder holes. The holes are 27mm in diameter, clearly a hole saw job, so a bit of a challenge.
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Bear in mind, I haven't seen an Omega door card for a winder, but 30mm seems really large to me.
All of the door cards I've seen have a hole little larger than the spindle and a much larger circular trim piece to cover the gap which would be about your diameter.
Terry has door cards with the winder holes so he already knows what size hole is required ;-)
To minimise thread pulling I would drill a pilot hole from the back (or maybe just push a nail through) then cut a cross in the fabric and trim away the unwanted fabric before drilling the full size hole.
Good tip. The hole centre is marked on the CDX cards so I can easily drill through. I had pallned to practise on the blue cards, drill a pilot hole through, then put the hole saw through from the fabric side and see what a mess it made of the fabric. I find my 30mm hole saw is too big so I need to obtain a 27mm hole saw..
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Screwfix do not do a 27mm hole saw; they do 25mm and 29mm. I have a 30mm hole saw. There is a dished washer that fits neatly in the 27mm hole in the GLS door card. I could enlarge the 25mm hole with a file, or pack out the 30mm hole with bluetack. I know it's all trivial, car goes fine, but I must decide what to do!
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Fit all the GLS trims to the CDX :y easy enough to do and you'll be finished in time to help with lunch ;)
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Job is done, thanks to all for advice. 25mm hole was quite bit enough. I had forgotten that putting the winder lever back on is simple, replace the spring clip and push lever on.