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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Nickbat on 15 July 2008, 22:17:02
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No, I don't mean the region, I mean how is it formed?
Give an answer and your degree of confidence in that answer (in %)
I'll come back later to mark your papers!! ;)
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Cue Debs !
Think it's got something to do with organic residue ... :-/
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Cue Debs !
Think it's got something to do with organic residue ... :-/
Sure she will give a good answer, :y :y and at least this post is not another bl@@dy joke. ::)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil
All oils, with their high carbon and hydrogen content, can be traced back to organic sources or space. Mineral oils, found in porous rocks underground, are no exception, as they were originally the organic material, such as dead plankton, accumulated on the seafloor in geologically ancient times. Through various geochemical processes this material was converted to mineral oil, or petroleum, and its components, such as kerosene, paraffin waxes, gasoline, diesel and such. These are classified as mineral oils as they do not have an organic origin on human timescales, and are instead derived from underground geologic locations, ranging from rocks, to underground traps, to sands.
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Well, they're not called fossil fuels for nothing. :)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil
All oils, with their high carbon and hydrogen content, can be traced back to organic sources or space. Mineral oils, found in porous rocks underground, are no exception, as they were originally the organic material, such as dead plankton, accumulated on the seafloor in geologically ancient times. Through various geochemical processes this material was converted to mineral oil, or petroleum, and its components, such as kerosene, paraffin waxes, gasoline, diesel and such. These are classified as mineral oils as they do not have an organic origin on human timescales, and are instead derived from underground geologic locations, ranging from rocks, to underground traps, to sands.
Bleedin 'ell -- I was on the right track --- my brain cell must have divided !!!!
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bin this pls!
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More than likely your camcover gaskets ::)
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My rocker cover gasket!!!!!!!!!!!! 8-)
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bin this pls!
:-?
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Well, they're not called fossil fuels for nothing. :)
Well, you may all be WRONG!
I have read a few articles in the last couple of months which suggest that oil may actually be abiotic, meaning that it is not organically produced - so you may need to stop calling it a fossil fuel. Rather, the earth itself produces oil deep down at pressures of 30Kbar. In the laboratory, pure solid marble (CaCO3) and iron oxide (FeO), wet with triple-distilled water, are subjected to pressures up to 50 kbar and temperatures to 2000 C. With no contribution of either hydrocarbons or biological detritus, the CaCO3-FeO-H2O system spontaneously generates, at the high pressures predicted theoretically, the suite of hydrocarbons characteristic of natural petroleum.
If oil is truly abiotic, there is no "peak oil" to worry about as this process will theoretically continue for millions of years.
Links: http://alfin2100.blogspot.com/2008/02/as-oil-seeps-abiotic-oil-not-if-but-how.html
http://www.gasresources.net/index.htm
Interesting, huh? ;)
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Well, they're not called fossil fuels for nothing. :)
Well, you may all be WRONG!
I have read a few articles in the last few months which suggest that oil may actually be abiotic, meaning that it is not organically produced - so you may need to stop calling it a fossil fuel. Rather, the earth itself produces oil deep down at pressures of 30Kbar. In the laboratory, pure solid marble (CaCO3) and iron oxide (FeO), wet with triple-distilled water, are subjected to pressures up to 50 kbar and temperatures to 2000 C. With no contribution of either hydrocarbons or biological detritus, the CaCO3-FeO-H2O system spontaneously generates, at the high pressures predicted theoretically, the suite of hydrocarbons characteristic of natural petroleum.
If oil is truly abiotic, there is no "peak oil" to worry about as this process will theoretically continue for millions of years.
Links: http://alfin2100.blogspot.com/2008/02/as-oil-seeps-abiotic-oil-not-if-but-how.html
http://www.gasresources.net/index.htm
Interesting, huh? ;)
..............and, theoretically, can be produced to demand, hence no shortage.
I wonder what the economics would be
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Well, they're not called fossil fuels for nothing. :)
Well, you may all be WRONG!
I have read a few articles in the last couple of months which suggest that oil may actually be abiotic, meaning that it is not organically produced - so you may need to stop calling it a fossil fuel. Rather, the earth itself produces oil deep down at pressures of 30Kbar. In the laboratory, pure solid marble (CaCO3) and iron oxide (FeO), wet with triple-distilled water, are subjected to pressures up to 50 kbar and temperatures to 2000 C. With no contribution of either hydrocarbons or biological detritus, the CaCO3-FeO-H2O system spontaneously generates, at the high pressures predicted theoretically, the suite of hydrocarbons characteristic of natural petroleum.
If oil is truly abiotic, there is no "peak oil" to worry about as this process will theoretically continue for millions of years.
Links: http://alfin2100.blogspot.com/2008/02/as-oil-seeps-abiotic-oil-not-if-but-how.html
http://www.gasresources.net/index.htm
Interesting, huh? ;)
What a load of nonsense. Next thing, they'll be telling us that the world is round and that the earth revolves around the sun. Bloody heretics!!!! >:(
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Well, they're not called fossil fuels for nothing. :)
Well, you may all be WRONG!
I have read a few articles in the last couple of months which suggest that oil may actually be abiotic, meaning that it is not organically produced - so you may need to stop calling it a fossil fuel. Rather, the earth itself produces oil deep down at pressures of 30Kbar. In the laboratory, pure solid marble (CaCO3) and iron oxide (FeO), wet with triple-distilled water, are subjected to pressures up to 50 kbar and temperatures to 2000 C. With no contribution of either hydrocarbons or biological detritus, the CaCO3-FeO-H2O system spontaneously generates, at the high pressures predicted theoretically, the suite of hydrocarbons characteristic of natural petroleum.
If oil is truly abiotic, there is no "peak oil" to worry about as this process will theoretically continue for millions of years.
Links: http://alfin2100.blogspot.com/2008/02/as-oil-seeps-abiotic-oil-not-if-but-how.html
http://www.gasresources.net/index.htm
Interesting, huh? ;)
What a load of nonsense. Next thing, they'll be telling us that the world is round and that the earth revolves around the sun. Bloody heretics!!!! >:(
It can't be -- I can see the edge :-/
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bin this pls!
Huh? >:(
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bin this pls!
Huh? >:(
Yes, why :question
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bin this pls!
Huh? >:(
Yes, why :question
Perhaps it's code for something intelligent?? ::)
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bin this pls!
Huh? >:(
Yes, why :question
Perhaps it's code for something intelligent?? ::)
Gotta be beyond my ken, then !!!!
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bin this pls!
If we all "bin" our oil, won't we contribute to World Pollution ?? and won't the council refuse to empty our bins ?? and won't the ................
;D ;D ;D
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Just to underline that I'm not saying this abiotic theory is true, but I've a hunch that it may be. I've always wondered why, if oil was just dead animals and forests, there should be such a difference in type, i.e. why Middle East crude is heavy and sulphurous, whereas West Texas is "light and sweet". The makeup of the surrounding fissures in the crust where this theoretical abiotic oil is formed would presumably have an effect on the sulphur content. On the other hand, if oil was just dead bodies and trees, why the difference?
Of course, the Greenies won't like this at all. Peak oil is everything to them. ;)
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Never mind all that!! Is this an oil thread masquerading as a general knowledge quiz??? ::)
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Never mind all that!! Is this an oil thread masquerading as a general knowledge quiz??? ::)
Yes, Martin, and as usual you lost! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
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Never mind all that!! Is this an oil thread masquerading as a general knowledge quiz??? ::)
Yes, Martin, and as usual you lost! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
;D
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As a sideline to this topic (and to give Golfbuddy a chance in the next pub quiz! ;)) here are a few questions and answers:
Q. How much oil, in cubic miles, does the world consume each year?
A. Approximately 1 (one)
Q. What would it take to replace the amount of energy in a cubic mile of oil?
A. Roughly 4.2 billion solar rooftops, 3 million wind turbines, 2,500 nuclear power plants or 200 Three Gorges Dams
..according to Menlo Park, Calif., nonprofit research institute SRI International.
In other words, no single category of renewable energy is growing anywhere near the speed it needs to bear the full brunt of displacing carbon-emitting fossil fuels anytime soon.
Source: http://alfin2100.blogspot.com/search/label/energy
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Mind you, abiotic or not, there seems to be quite a bit of oil around according to this article:
http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fpcomment/archive/2008/07/12/abundant-energy-will-power-future-growth.aspx
So why the high price? Investment and speculation, I'd say. :(
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Mind you, abiotic or not, there seems to be quite a bit of oil around according to this article:
http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fpcomment/archive/2008/07/12/abundant-energy-will-power-future-growth.aspx
So why the high price? Investment and speculation, I'd say. :(
and the hope is that the bubble bursts and they all get their fingers burnt
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bin this pls!
Huh? >:(
Yes, why :question
Perhaps it's code for something intelligent?? ::)
Gotta be beyond my ken, then !!!!
I ken wot you mean :y ;D
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bin this pls (Anagram of Blips hints)
Sorry, I meant to delete my post!
SWMBO was nagging to go out and I posted without fully reading the the first post. Realised what I'd written was junk but didn't have time to explain.
Gave you something to think about though ;)
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And for tomorrows lesson......................? ;D