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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: tunnie on 16 July 2008, 20:27:38
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Lot of people seam to be selling their Omega's to 'save' money and get a derv oil burner, or something smaller at a cost of £1,000's my question is WHY!!!
Selling your Omega, which lets be honest are worthless now, 2k max you get for most now?
Spend 5k on or 10k on a derv, its going to take you years to recoup the costs in fuel unless you do megga miles (talking 25k + a year)
Another excuse seams to be the road tax rise, its another £200 for V6, just £100 for 4 pots.... again, why change!??
So what if you get a derv thats £150 cheaper to tax a year, £5k on a oil burner buys a lot of tax! ;)
I really don't understand the thoughts of people selling!!!
If you want to save money, keep your Omega, swapping it won't save you money!
end of rant! ;D
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overall costs in general, in my case, i will save quite a substantial amount each year and i dont think it'll make a difference how much my car sells for
i need a house
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I agree!! The mig also offers so much!! Could never get rid of them, my babies! :y
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if its a good one lpg it.mines 12 years old so i dont think its worth it,if it was a lot younger i would be doing it.
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overall costs in general, in my case, i will save quite a substantial amount each year and i dont think it'll make a difference how much my car sells for
i need a house
i am saving for one too Danny, swapping my Omega for a Corsa, may save me a little but talking few hundred quid here, maybe £200 for insurance, be slighly better on fuel.
Can't see it making a big difference
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I'm not selling up mate. Slightly higher mpg & ins. but my age & low mileage covers that, plus it cost less than a "bag of sand" to buy in the first place. Cheap Migging! :y
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overall costs in general, in my case, i will save quite a substantial amount each year and i dont think it'll make a difference how much my car sells for
i need a house
i am saving for one too Danny, swapping my Omega for a Corsa, may save me a little but talking few hundred quid here, maybe £200 for insurance, be slighly better on fuel.
Can't see it making a big difference
believe me a few hundred makes one HELL of a difference!
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The extra money I spend on petrol I save by buying cheap tobbacco off a mate of a mate who goes to europe! So stick that brown boy!!! ;D
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I'm not selling up mate. Slightly higher mpg & ins. but my age & low mileage covers that, plus it cost less than a "bag of sand" to buy in the first place. Cheap Migging! :y
Excellent Idea.... bury it with your sand, then dig it back up in another 10-15 years when Omega's are worth a fortune ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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My car is (almost) my only (well .. main) vice ....so I am keeping it. I like to drive around in comfort in a car with presence --- my dad can keep his baked bean tin (clit) ---- I don't burn £25+ a week on cigarettes, or filter the same in booze through the old kidneys, so I will spend it on fuel and tax (thankyou GB) -- as luck would have it I just escape the retrospective tax hike -- unless they tinker with that and take the date back further.
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overall costs in general, in my case, i will save quite a substantial amount each year and i dont think it'll make a difference how much my car sells for
i need a house
i am saving for one too Danny, swapping my Omega for a Corsa, may save me a little but talking few hundred quid here, maybe £200 for insurance, be slighly better on fuel.
Can't see it making a big difference
believe me a few hundred makes one HELL of a difference!
£300 a year? really :-/
If you buying a house and £300 a year difference makes or breaks it, i would hold off for a bit.
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also have to take into account the OOF, this forum has save me so much money.
I am servcing my car at trade prices, i suspect a clit or VW Polo would be more expensive to maintain!
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Keeping ours while viable to do so.
Wont be long before there is no point to a well performing car, be too many cameras / black boxes recording everything.
We have every intention of enjoying them while we can.
These mig's go on for years, big reliable engines, to get a similar condition small car, it has to be newer, and therefore more expensive.
Migs = cheap to buy, resonable to maintain, reasonable - dear to run.
corsa = expensive to buy, cheaper to maintain, cheaper to run.
I want a big practical fun car. I need to fully load it up from time to time. I know where I am staying!
Now LPG, that is becoming appealing :y
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I need RWD, room for three growing children, and towing a caravan
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Well i must be the only one selling (well very nearly) my Omega V6 only to replace it with a twin turbo V6 Audi... mad or what?
I told my mrs i wanted a superbike to cut through all the traffic to and from work and to save mega money on fuel, but she was having none of it and said she doesn't mind paying more for fuel or tax!! :D She wan't an Audi.
But thinking about it, for any Omega owner, a few hundred squids should't make or break it, after all you must have know the Omega was a thirsty car to start with... and to think some of you have more than one on the drive (MarkDTM!!) he's got some nice examples too. Greedy boy ;)
Rant over :P
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also have to take into account the OOF, this forum has save me so much money.
I am servcing my car at trade prices, i suspect a clit or VW Polo would be more expensive to maintain!
Now that tunnie is one hell of a point! I got the estate (aka the-state) had every will to do the work myself... which I did, however, I wandered what vx would charge for the same! Just to see what a rip off it was.
needed; cam belt (and waterpump) cam cover gasket collant change, plugs, breather clean, and throttle body, oil change and filter, air filter.
vx - £1200
I did - £175
It pays to be in the right place :y
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Tunnie - you are forgetting some people do slightly more than you 20m round trip to Bicester every day...
Diesels generally start to cost in (if buying new) from around 18k per year - that figure will usually be lower if buying 2nd hand.
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Keeping ours while viable to do so.
Wont be long before there is no point to a well performing car, be too many cameras / black boxes recording everything.
We have every intention of enjoying them while we can.
These mig's go on for years, big reliable engines, to get a similar condition small car, it has to be newer, and therefore more expensive.
Migs = cheap to buy, resonable to maintain, reasonable - dear to run.
corsa = expensive to buy, cheaper to maintain, cheaper to run.
I want a big practical fun car. I need to fully load it up from time to time. I know where I am staying!
Now LPG, that is becoming appealing :y
Come on jimbob, join the LPG crew, you know you want to!
The quicker you do it, the more you'll save :y
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Tunnie - you are forgetting some people do slightly more than you 20m round trip to Bicester every day...
Diesels generally start to cost in (if buying new) from around 18k per year - that figure will usually be lower if buying 2nd hand.
Even so, with the resources this forum gives people to save money, i think the off set of derv would be quickly gone in service bills.
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Migs also come out better when hit by a corsa or clit you can`t get 4 kid`s wife and a wheelchair in a corsa/clit. ;D ;D
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Tunnie - you are forgetting some people do slightly more than you 20m round trip to Bicester every day...
Diesels generally start to cost in (if buying new) from around 18k per year - that figure will usually be lower if buying 2nd hand.
Sadly not, I worked out that even by taking a company car in diseasel format, it would not pay off
Seem to recall that depreciation aside, I would save 1600 quid a year with a diseasel when doing 20K miles per annum.....and thats without depreciation!
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My car is (almost) my only (well .. main) vice ....so I am keeping it. I like to drive around in comfort in a car with presence --- my dad can keep his baked bean tin (clit) ---- I don't burn £25+ a week on cigarettes, or filter the same in booze through the old kidneys, so I will spend it on fuel and tax (thankyou GB) -- as luck would have it I just escape the retrospective tax hike -- unless they tinker with that and take the date back further.
Thats my take on my meega too! I dont smoke, dont drink (much) but i do like a big, fun car!!
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Tunnie - you are forgetting some people do slightly more than you 20m round trip to Bicester every day...
Diesels generally start to cost in (if buying new) from around 18k per year - that figure will usually be lower if buying 2nd hand.
Sadly not, I worked out that even by taking a company car in diseasel format, it would not pay off
Seem to recall that depreciation aside, I would save 1600 quid a year with a diseasel when doing 20K miles per annum.....and thats without depreciation!
Saving just £1.6k? :o
Better off to LPG!
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Tunnie - you are forgetting some people do slightly more than you 20m round trip to Bicester every day...
Diesels generally start to cost in (if buying new) from around 18k per year - that figure will usually be lower if buying 2nd hand.
Sadly not, I worked out that even by taking a company car in diseasel format, it would not pay off
Seem to recall that depreciation aside, I would save 1600 quid a year with a diseasel when doing 20K miles per annum.....and thats without depreciation!
Saving just £1.6k? :o
Better off to LPG!
only so long as LPG continues to be considerably cheaper than petrol.
Once it gets to about 80% of the cost of petrol it will stop being a viable option for a lot of people.
Me, i am not selling mine, even though it is going to cost £400 to tax, i do 30K a year at least and like to travel in comparative luxury, like many others i have no other vices aside from the occasional pint
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Tunnie - you are forgetting some people do slightly more than you 20m round trip to Bicester every day...
Diesels generally start to cost in (if buying new) from around 18k per year - that figure will usually be lower if buying 2nd hand.
Sadly not, I worked out that even by taking a company car in diseasel format, it would not pay off
Seem to recall that depreciation aside, I would save 1600 quid a year with a diseasel when doing 20K miles per annum.....and thats without depreciation!
Actually, with the heavily increased price of diesel, my figures are out of date from when petrol and diesel similar priced...
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Tunnie - you are forgetting some people do slightly more than you 20m round trip to Bicester every day...
Diesels generally start to cost in (if buying new) from around 18k per year - that figure will usually be lower if buying 2nd hand.
Sadly not, I worked out that even by taking a company car in diseasel format, it would not pay off
Seem to recall that depreciation aside, I would save 1600 quid a year with a diseasel when doing 20K miles per annum.....and thats without depreciation!
Saving just £1.6k? :o
Better off to LPG!
£1.6k saving a year is not to be cast aside - we're not all young, carefree, with a roof provided by parents ;)
There are valid reasons not to lpg...
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The powers that be are openly trying to get us all into little bland boxes to lower our global/carbon/emission/footprint or whatever they're calling it this week. What they don't & probably never will understand is that to some folk their car is also their hobby, not just transport. I only cover 3k a year, equate that to a "friendlier" car covering 10 or 20k a year & that p*sses on their parade. I no longer have a wife & children to run here there & everywhere when i don't feel like it & i do'nt hop on a plane once or twice a year for holidays.
Just to clarify, i'm not having a pop at anyone (i'm open about it if i am) but sick & tired of the media telling us how we should'nt run gas guzzlers when they clearly hav'nt researched properly.
Not ranting but admit to having a chip on my shoulder!!! ::)
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okay....we all know i am the social outcast ::)
MV6 had usual rust spots, it annoyed me immensly. Wanted also a newer car but couldnt find the MV6/Elite that I wanted. Decided to go elsewhere as I got the FSH Jag Sport for A LOT less than you may think.
My sale had nothing to do with costs - obviously runnning an AWD Jag-Deo.
Just replaced wifes 2.5 CDX Facelift - with a clit 182Sport.
Again its newer and for her town only runs it actually saves money. She is sitting on 37mpg today from it, and it still does a 0-60 time in under 7 seconds.
I hang my head :-[
...But admit i still miss the MV6 despite the Jag doing nothing wrong, having stunning acceleration and great looks ( matter of opinion i know)
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Tunnie - you are forgetting some people do slightly more than you 20m round trip to Bicester every day...
Diesels generally start to cost in (if buying new) from around 18k per year - that figure will usually be lower if buying 2nd hand.
Sadly not, I worked out that even by taking a company car in diseasel format, it would not pay off
Seem to recall that depreciation aside, I would save 1600 quid a year with a diseasel when doing 20K miles per annum.....and thats without depreciation!
Saving just £1.6k? :o
Better off to LPG!
£1.6k saving a year is not to be cast aside - we're not all young, carefree, with a roof provided by parents ;)
There are valid reasons not to lpg...
Ok so i go out and buy a new oil burner, prob need to pay around 10k for something nice.
Saving 1.6k a year on fuel doing 20k miles a year, going to take 6 years at least to get your 10k investment back.
Then you got to take in depreciation... which will nudge £1k/500 a year..
So saving say £1k a year?
Retail service costs...
There is money to save no doubt but its hardly going to be big money! Have trouble getting anything near 4 figures...
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I guess, being financially in control despite the mess out nation is in, SWMBO and i decided we wanted newer cars, Something the Omega cant do.
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okay....we all know i am the social outcast ::)
MV6 had usual rust spots, it annoyed me immensly. Wanted also a newer car but couldnt find the MV6/Elite that I wanted. Decided to go elsewhere as I got the FSH Jag Sport for A LOT less than you may think.
My sale had nothing to do with costs - obviously runnning an AWD Jag-Deo.
Just replaced wifes 2.5 CDX Facelift - with a clit 182Sport.
Again its newer and for her town only runs it actually saves money. She is sitting on 37mpg today from it, and it still does a 0-60 time in under 7 seconds.
I hang my head :-[
...But admit i still miss the MV6 despite the Jag doing nothing wrong, having stunning acceleration and great looks ( matter of opinion i know)
But the power goes to the wrong wheels....... and its French!! :o
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Tunnie - you are forgetting some people do slightly more than you 20m round trip to Bicester every day...
Diesels generally start to cost in (if buying new) from around 18k per year - that figure will usually be lower if buying 2nd hand.
Sadly not, I worked out that even by taking a company car in diseasel format, it would not pay off
Seem to recall that depreciation aside, I would save 1600 quid a year with a diseasel when doing 20K miles per annum.....and thats without depreciation!
Saving just £1.6k? :o
Better off to LPG!
£1.6k saving a year is not to be cast aside - we're not all young, carefree, with a roof provided by parents ;)
There are valid reasons not to lpg...
Ok so i go out and buy a new oil burner, prob need to pay around 10k for something nice.
Saving 1.6k a year on fuel doing 20k miles a year, going to take 6 years at least to get your 10k investment back.
Then you got to take in depreciation... which will nudge £1k/500 a year..
So saving say £1k a year?
Retail service costs...
There is money to save no doubt but its hardly going to be big money! Have trouble getting anything near 4 figures...
Your maths dont add up. When replacing a car, the petrol varient will still be around £7-8k, so the diesel pays for itself (on fuel alone) in less than 2yrs...
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Tunnie - you are forgetting some people do slightly more than you 20m round trip to Bicester every day...
Diesels generally start to cost in (if buying new) from around 18k per year - that figure will usually be lower if buying 2nd hand.
Sadly not, I worked out that even by taking a company car in diseasel format, it would not pay off
Seem to recall that depreciation aside, I would save 1600 quid a year with a diseasel when doing 20K miles per annum.....and thats without depreciation!
Saving just £1.6k? :o
Better off to LPG!
£1.6k saving a year is not to be cast aside - we're not all young, carefree, with a roof provided by parents ;)
There are valid reasons not to lpg...
Ok so i go out and buy a new oil burner, prob need to pay around 10k for something nice.
Saving 1.6k a year on fuel doing 20k miles a year, going to take 6 years at least to get your 10k investment back.
Then you got to take in depreciation... which will nudge £1k/500 a year..
So saving say £1k a year?
Retail service costs...
There is money to save no doubt but its hardly going to be big money! Have trouble getting anything near 4 figures...
Your maths dont add up. When replacing a car, the petrol varient will still be around £7-8k, so the diesel pays for itself (on fuel alone) in less than 2yrs...
Not thinking about that, talking about people selling their Omegas for oil burners, compared with keeping the Omega, rather than buying another petrol car...
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Tunnie - you are forgetting some people do slightly more than you 20m round trip to Bicester every day...
Diesels generally start to cost in (if buying new) from around 18k per year - that figure will usually be lower if buying 2nd hand.
Sadly not, I worked out that even by taking a company car in diseasel format, it would not pay off
Seem to recall that depreciation aside, I would save 1600 quid a year with a diseasel when doing 20K miles per annum.....and thats without depreciation!
Saving just £1.6k? :o
Better off to LPG!
£1.6k saving a year is not to be cast aside - we're not all young, carefree, with a roof provided by parents ;)
There are valid reasons not to lpg...
Ok so i go out and buy a new oil burner, prob need to pay around 10k for something nice.
Saving 1.6k a year on fuel doing 20k miles a year, going to take 6 years at least to get your 10k investment back.
Then you got to take in depreciation... which will nudge £1k/500 a year..
So saving say £1k a year?
Retail service costs...
There is money to save no doubt but its hardly going to be big money! Have trouble getting anything near 4 figures...
Your maths dont add up. When replacing a car, the petrol varient will still be around £7-8k, so the diesel pays for itself (on fuel alone) in less than 2yrs...
Not thinking about that, talking about people selling their Omegas for oil burners, compared with keeping the Omega, rather than buying another petrol car...
i think you'll find very few doing that (or if they are, downsizing). I guess many just want a change, and consider diesels as part of that
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Petrol is the new Diesel. These new particle trap wee powder superclean Diesels get pants milage. Same pence/mile with direct injection petrol!
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tax alone will be £300 a year cheaper, insurance about £200 cheaper per year (£350 cheaper for this renewal coming up), general running costs will be cheaper, and even fuel will be cheaper!
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Our (LPG converted) Omega has been running a whole week without a warning light. Guess I'll have to give it a stay of execution lol.., so no plans to change from Jue's Elite as yet he he
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Swmbo doesn't know the difference between an ELITE and an MV6 ;D ;D ;D ;D
It's hard to educate brain dead.. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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I guess we can all argue about pounds here and there and, depending on personal circumstances, that can be a critical issue. But my Omega is a passion. In the bad times people will still spend money on non-essentials, just to make life a wee bit more bearable, whether it be meals out, the cinema, golf, footie or whatever. For me, my Omega is my non-essential indulgence. I don't need to justify it. I bought it with my heart and my heart wants me to keep it. I will for as long as I can. :y
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Personally, still looking for a high spec, late model, 3.2 estate in black and happy to pay a fair price for a good example. Dont give a toss about the tax increase or the fuel costs.
Value of the car and its comfort outweighs the other costs, to my mind....
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Personally, still looking for a high spec, late model, 3.2 estate in black and happy to pay a fair price for a good example. Dont give a toss about the tax increase or the fuel costs.
Value of the car and its comfort outweighs the other costs, to my mind....
Same thinking, although, i dont have any patience and got bored searching :(
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Personally, still looking for a high spec, late model, 3.2 estate in black and happy to pay a fair price for a good example. Dont give a toss about the tax increase or the fuel costs.
Value of the car and its comfort outweighs the other costs, to my mind....
Driven Mercs Bmw's XJS( 5.3 V12) Porche 928s Scorpio's shogun range rovers all years and i still think the miggy has to be one if not the most comfortable drive :y :y. Was only a kid when i was taken out in a roller.....naw note for me :(
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According to the main point of the governments change in road tax levies is "the environment" Work it out for yourself what creates the larger carbon footprint? someone who runs a larger engined car keeps it well maintained and keeps it on the road for years, or buys a brand new low emission car with the related" carbon cost "of production. It aint rocket science!
While we are on the subject of carbon footprint (you've got me going now)
Take the case of the parents that have three children they cant afford foreign holidays so the buy a caravan and holiday in this country. They need a large car to tow the van but are going to be penalised. Compare there carbon footprint with that of the family that jet off abroad. This tax is only going to clobber the less well off >:(
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Hmm cars, well when I was unemployed for a while I kept my car on the road, and didn't even think of selling - good job too!
However I went for banger with big engine, and rebuilt the car with repair panels.
THen simply due to a 3 day wait for a throttle cable we needed a newer car, my wifes father at the time worked in a Vauxhall garage and liked them, she suggested a Nova , then Astra - I said I wasn't down trading, she knew I used to deliver Vauxhalls so I went for the smallest cheapest option available.
Rules
RWD
I like them
Engine good
Ended up with E reg 2.0 GLi Carlton when I was on rubbish wages