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Title: Cam cover gaskets
Post by: thebeast on 22 January 2016, 21:22:38
Looking for someone to change cam cover gaskets any one please message me with a quote
Title: Re: Cam cover gaskets
Post by: 05omegav6 on 22 January 2016, 21:24:52
Looking for someone to change cam cover gaskets any one please message me with a quote
Where are you and what engine as both have a bearing ;)
Title: Re: Cam cover gaskets
Post by: Nick W on 22 January 2016, 21:25:00






£451.


Knowing where you are would make a much more realistic quote.


Title: Re: Cam cover gaskets
Post by: thebeast on 22 January 2016, 21:27:32
Am in bedfordshire 2.6 V6 automatic 2002
Title: Re: Cam cover gaskets
Post by: Bigron on 22 January 2016, 21:53:04
Serek.
No argument - brilliany, painstaking work and a good price. He will also do those essential breathers whilst he is at it.
PM him.

Ron.
Title: Re: Cam cover gaskets
Post by: EMD on 22 January 2016, 21:55:27
Serek.
No argument - brilliany, painstaking work and a good price. He will also do those essential breathers whilst he is at it.
PM him.

Ron.

Bet serek is sick of these bleedin omegas  ;D Seriously though he's can do them blindfolded  :)
Title: Re: Cam cover gaskets
Post by: thebeast on 22 January 2016, 22:43:56
I just had a quote for £50 quid that's just labour  is it to good to be true I wonder maybe a cowboy, is it worth the risk I will get a quote from my dealer see what they say, last time I done my old omega at my local garage it still kept leaking after replacement took it back they just plastered it sealer just got fed up of burning oil I just got rid of  it done 300k in the last omega this one just done 100k last week now leaking oil only when I put my foot done but it's getting worse as I can smell buring oil,  why do the gaskets go one these?  Is it a bad design I suppose, another way for vauxhall to make money
Title: Re: Cam cover gaskets
Post by: 05omegav6 on 22 January 2016, 22:50:12
I just had a quote for £50 quid that's just labour  is it to good to be true I wonder maybe a cowboy, is it worth the risk I will get a quote from my dealer see what they say, last time I done my old omega at my local garage it still kept leaking after replacement took it back they just plastered it sealer just got fed up of burning oil I just got rid of  it done 300k in the last omega this one just done 100k last week now leaking oil only when I put my foot done but it's getting worse as I can smell buring oil,  why do the gaskets go one these?  Is it a bad design I suppose, another way for vauxhall to make money
If that's from who I think, then you'll get a job well done ;)
Title: Re: Cam cover gaskets
Post by: Andy B on 22 January 2016, 22:52:23
I just had a quote for £50 quid that's just labour  is it to good to be true I wonder maybe a cowboy, is it worth the risk I will get a quote from my dealer see what they say, last time I done my old omega at my local garage it still kept leaking after replacement took it back they just plastered it sealer just got fed up of burning oil I just got rid of  it done 300k in the last omega this one just done 100k last week now leaking oil only when I put my foot done but it's getting worse as I can smell buring oil,  why do the gaskets go one these?  Is it a bad design I suppose, another way for vauxhall to make money

they go cos the breathers get blocked and the gaskets harden with age. Garages replace the gaskets with pattern which harden even faster but leave the breathers & then plaster the cam covers with instant gasket ......  ::)
Title: Re: Cam cover gaskets
Post by: thebeast on 22 January 2016, 23:04:22
Well even dealers use patterns as they don't make original ones anymore as it's not cost effective, as gm use approved gm parts as to genuine, after 10 years they don't stock parts as the life expectancy of a car is only 10 years define genuine and pattern parts? it's all about cost cutting , I had  a heat shield fall of my cat converter to get a genuine cat would cost £1200 and yet I can get the same part from London for £287, but a cat should last for life of the car as they say they don't make cars like they use to
Title: Re: Cam cover gaskets
Post by: Lazydocker on 22 January 2016, 23:19:39
Well even dealers use patterns as they don't make original ones anymore as it's not cost effective, as gm use approved gm parts as to genuine, after 10 years they don't stock parts as the life expectancy of a car is only 10 years define genuine and pattern parts? it's all about cost cutting , I had  a heat shield fall of my cat converter to get a genuine cat would cost £1200 and yet I can get the same part from London for £287, but a cat should last for life of the car as they say they don't make cars like they use to

Not sure where you heard that but if it's true then the genuine set I have must be worth good money now!!

I suspect, however, that it's a bit of BS from somewhere ;)

I just had a quote for £50 quid that's just labour  is it to good to be true I wonder maybe a cowboy, is it worth the risk I will get a quote from my dealer see what they say, last time I done my old omega at my local garage it still kept leaking after replacement took it back they just plastered it sealer just got fed up of burning oil I just got rid of  it done 300k in the last omega this one just done 100k last week now leaking oil only when I put my foot done but it's getting worse as I can smell buring oil,  why do the gaskets go one these?  Is it a bad design I suppose, another way for vauxhall to make money

Because people don't maintain them correctly and don't keep the breathers clean ;)
Title: Re: Cam cover gaskets
Post by: tunnie on 22 January 2016, 23:21:20
Cam cover gaskets easily last 10 years /100k without a problem, assuming basic maintenance takes place.

Gaskets fail due to poor breather system cleaning, keep on to of this and oil changes and gaskets last very well.

The advice here after over decade of this forum running, is use genuine GM gaskets if you want it to last. Along with new o-rings and correct sealant.
Title: Re: Cam cover gaskets
Post by: steve6367 on 22 January 2016, 23:27:16
Well even dealers use patterns as they don't make original ones anymore as it's not cost effective, as gm use approved gm parts as to genuine, after 10 years they don't stock parts as the life expectancy of a car is only 10 years define genuine and pattern parts? it's all about cost cutting , I had  a heat shield fall of my cat converter to get a genuine cat would cost £1200 and yet I can get the same part from London for £287, but a cat should last for life of the car as they say they don't make cars like they use to

My genuine VX dealer managed to supply me some genuine GM gaskets a couple of weeks ago - had to order in, but the computer showed plenty of stock. They are expensive even on TC but just work and I only intend to do them once.
Title: Re: Cam cover gaskets
Post by: VXL V6 on 22 January 2016, 23:34:01
Well even dealers use patterns as they don't make original ones anymore as it's not cost effective, as gm use approved gm parts as to genuine, after 10 years they don't stock parts as the life expectancy of a car is only 10 years define genuine and pattern parts? it's all about cost cutting , I had  a heat shield fall of my cat converter to get a genuine cat would cost £1200 and yet I can get the same part from London for £287, but a cat should last for life of the car as they say they don't make cars like they use to

Yes you can get genuine gaskets from the dealers as they are still available. The ruling is that manufacturers do not have to maintain spares after eight years from the end of production but that doesn't mean they haven't still got stock though. Vauxhall do not have enough storage space for spares for all the models that meet this criteria so the parts get sent back to the central stores in Germany. Both the MV6 springs and genuine windscreen I have had to be shipped back here!

On an Omega the heat shield falling off the pre-cat due to corrosion of the welds where it is tacked on is very common and not an issue.

Quote
I just had a quote for £50 quid that's just labour  is it to good to be true I wonder maybe a cowboy, is it worth the risk I will get a quote from my dealer see what they say

Most dealers will charge around £70+ per hour for labour and cam cover gaskets on a V6 isn't a quick job so I wouldn't even walk through the dealers front door to ask the price!
Title: Re: Cam cover gaskets
Post by: Bigron on 22 January 2016, 23:59:43
Sorry to repeat myself, OP, but if you are under 100 miles from Huntingdon, it will be cost-effective to go to see Serek. Be prepared to wait a while (or go shopping) as he likes the engine to cool down first, but it will be a perfect job.
NO, we are not related; he did mine and I was delighted, so telling you about it is what this forum is for, yes?

Ron.
Title: Re: Cam cover gaskets
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 23 January 2016, 01:29:22
Where in Beds are you? I am in Bucks and potentially across the border. I no longer do it as a business but I've done more of these than you can shake a stick at.

IF you are close to me, I'd happily help you out in return for a small contribution towards my elite project, if we can find a suitable time.

If however you're in a rush for the next couple of weeks, please contact Serek as stated, he is a sound tradesman and does this for a living :y

Title: Re: Cam cover gaskets
Post by: 05omegav6 on 23 January 2016, 01:36:16
Well even dealers use patterns as they don't make original ones anymore as it's not cost effective, as gm use approved gm parts as to genuine, after 10 years they don't stock parts as the life expectancy of a car is only 10 years define genuine and pattern parts? it's all about cost cutting , I had  a heat shield fall of my cat converter to get a genuine cat would cost £1200 and yet I can get the same part from London for £287, but a catshould last for life of the car as they say they don't make cars like they use to
Piffle...

The design life expectancy of a car is 100K. That's why so many cars seem to fall apart when they reach that magic number. The reality is that a car from thirty or forty years ago would struggle to reaching double figures, yet even the youngest Omega is thirteen years old, the oldest are 21/22 and are still going strong ::)
Title: Re: Cam cover gaskets
Post by: Kevin Wood on 23 January 2016, 17:42:46
I wouldn't mind betting genuine cam cover gaskets would last the life of the car if oil change intervals were sensible. Without filthy oil the breathers don't block and the gaskets don't fail.
Title: Re: Cam cover gaskets
Post by: thebeast on 23 January 2016, 18:41:55
When I had the car it was 15w40 oil then my dealer changed it to 10w 40 now it's gone over 100k it's now 15w 40 so which weight oil is best for leak free and block free breathers?
Title: Re: Cam cover gaskets
Post by: 05omegav6 on 23 January 2016, 19:02:25
When I had the car it was 15w40 oil then my dealer changed it to 10w 40 now it's gone over 100k it's now 15w 40 so which weight oil is best for leak free and block free breathers?
10w40 is fine, as is 5w30... and avoid Castrol as it mayos really easily... easily done as Vauxhall/GM oil costs peanuts, so no reason not to use it :y
Title: Re: Cam cover gaskets
Post by: thebeast on 23 January 2016, 19:10:40
Thanks  :)
Title: Re: Cam cover gaskets
Post by: TheBoy on 24 January 2016, 09:21:07
Well even dealers use patterns as they don't make original ones anymore as it's not cost effective, as gm use approved gm parts as to genuine, after 10 years they don't stock parts as the life expectancy of a car is only 10 years define genuine and pattern parts? it's all about cost cutting , I had  a heat shield fall of my cat converter to get a genuine cat would cost £1200 and yet I can get the same part from London for £287, but a cat should last for life of the car as they say they don't make cars like they use to
Nope, not true, the 2 I picked up on Friday where genuine, one of each type. Not dealer stock either, as had to be ordered in.
Title: Re: Cam cover gaskets
Post by: EMD on 24 January 2016, 13:46:26
Apart from blocked breathers causing problems im convinced that a lot of leakage/failure is caused by the cam covers that are warped by over tightening  ::) I had vx gaskets and my old elite still leaked from the sides  :( Put new covers on and it stopped all leaks for good  :)
Title: Re: Cam cover gaskets
Post by: krabi_one on 24 January 2016, 18:44:17
Long long time ago , I walked to the dealer and asked about the price for replacing gaskets on the 3.2 - the Labour was around £350 + the gasket = better buy another Omega and this one take a time a definitely DIY :)
Title: Re: Cam cover gaskets
Post by: thebeast on 25 January 2016, 18:08:31
Omegas are not cheap to run the last omega was a 2.5 V6 cd had it for 10 years done 300-350k I think or near that mark and driving to the max everyday but cost me about 12-15k over 10 years that's tyres, service, parts,  and all repairs at dealer kept me going just got rid of due to the last repair at my local garage messed my car up as considering  that new cars are so not reliable and light as a feather, omegas are solid cars just some bad designs in engine making it hard to repair which needs experienced mechanics even the dealer mechanics are all very young, hence why it's best to pay a little more then a little less as I did to my last repair ending up getting rid of the car,  I drove  a 2.2 automatic was light as feather and had no punch or shift  :)
Title: Re: Cam cover gaskets
Post by: TheBoy on 25 January 2016, 18:12:00
Omegas are not cheap to run the last omega was a 2.5 V6 cd had it for 10 years done 300-350k I think or near that mark and driving to the max everyday but cost me about 12-15k over 10 years that's tyres, service, parts,  and all repairs at dealer kept me going just got rid of due to the last repair at my local garage messed my car up as considering  that new cars are so not reliable and light as a feather, omegas are solid cars just some bad designs in engine making it hard to repair which needs experienced mechanics even the dealer mechanics are all very young, hence why it's best to pay a little more then a little less as I did to my last repair ending up getting rid of the car
Dealers do not know how to fix cars, be it a 20yr old V6 Omega that will scare the bejesus out of them, or a 65 plate Renault Captur.

Any car you wish to keep, you need to find a specialist, not a dealer, if you cant DIY
Title: Re: Cam cover gaskets
Post by: thebeast on 25 January 2016, 18:14:34
Well that's the hard part finding one I have been looking for the last 20 years, it bugs me so much when a clip is broken or a nut missing  :( with a dealer all work is under warranty I had a coolant  leak I took it back 5 times they fixed it in the end, still use them, plus you get a courtesy car, but I do shop around now and try to get work done on days off and do basic stuff my self like brakes and oil change
Title: Re: Cam cover gaskets
Post by: jimbo125 on 26 January 2016, 00:04:48
Omegas are not cheap to run the last omega was a 2.5 V6 cd had it for 10 years done 300-350k I think or near that mark and driving to the max everyday but cost me about 12-15k over 10 years that's tyres, service, parts,  and all repairs at dealer kept me going just got rid of due to the last repair at my local garage messed my car up as considering  that new cars are so not reliable and light as a feather, omegas are solid cars just some bad designs in engine making it hard to repair which needs experienced mechanics even the dealer mechanics are all very young, hence why it's best to pay a little more then a little less as I did to my last repair ending up getting rid of the car
Dealers do not know how to fix cars, be it a 20yr old V6 Omega that will scare the bejesus out of them, or a 65 plate Renault Captur.

Any car you wish to keep, you need to find a specialist, not a dealer, if you cant DIY
Agree totally had my timing belt done a few years back by main dealer wondered what the black powder was at the bottom of the timing belt cover? Toothed belt almost shredded of teeth tensioner set at extreme of range. Got the DVD from here and now do my belts myself not that difficult will be doing my HGs soon again fiddly but doable by a diyer. For a V6 very DIY friendly :y
Title: Re: Cam cover gaskets
Post by: thebeast on 27 January 2016, 15:21:35
Right had few offers to replace cam covers am very impressed with people on here, just need part numbers for what is required can anyone help, been to order they asked ok gaskets how many? o rings how many? I thought it comes all as one set so bit confusing?  and I thought I knew about cars ???
Title: Re: Cam cover gaskets
Post by: TheBoy on 28 January 2016, 17:44:53
Have a look in the guide, there is a shopping list :y.  Generally the intake gaskets are not required.
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Post by: thebeast on 29 January 2016, 19:47:54
Thank you but that shopping list is for X25Xe mine  is Y26se is it same for both engines thanks for replying
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Post by: dbug on 29 January 2016, 22:53:45
Same gaskets will fit + same o-rings + same sealant
Title: Re: Cam cover gaskets
Post by: thebeast on 31 January 2016, 00:12:04
Thank you
Title: Re: Cam cover gaskets
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 31 January 2016, 00:25:09
Good luck getting it sorted :y