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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: tigers_gonads on 28 January 2016, 10:19:58
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Well i've been a very lucky boy this week and the lad and missus have clubbed together for my birthday to buy me turntable :D :D :D
I've spent the last couple of days picking fluff off the needle and enjoying the warm sound complete with pops of some of my old albums for the first time in about 20 years :-[
The thing is, all my albums have accumulated 20 years of shite so need a bloody good clean.
What are the OOF vinyl lovers out there using to clean their albums ?
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It'll feel good to have a black twelve incher in your hands again, Mr Gonads. :)
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It'll feel good to have a black twelve incher in your hands again, Mr Gonads. :)
You never miss a trick, do you? ;D
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It'll feel good to have a black twelve incher in your hands again, Mr Gonads. :)
Are you giving us the benefit of your vast experience again my lord :P ;D ;D ;D
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Get yourself a "Disco Antistat".
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Knosti-Cleaning-Machine-Generation/dp/B000BFXIVW (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Knosti-Cleaning-Machine-Generation/dp/B000BFXIVW)
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It'll feel good to have a black twelve incher in your hands again, Mr Gonads. :)
Are you giving us the benefit of your vast experience again my lord :P ;D ;D ;D
My experience extends more toward black seven inchers. :y
.....of which I have fondled many.
My first vinyl was 'Wild west hero' by ELO. Around 1976/77 if memory serves.
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Get yourself a "Disco Antistat".
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Knosti-Cleaning-Machine-Generation/dp/B000BFXIVW (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Knosti-Cleaning-Machine-Generation/dp/B000BFXIVW)
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A friend / customer has one of those Kev and swears by it :y
Is that a good price for what is basically a plastic tub with a soft brush and a bottle of distilled water :-\
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It'll feel good to have a black twelve incher in your hands again, Mr Gonads. :)
Are you giving us the benefit of your vast experience again my lord :P ;D ;D ;D
My experience extends more toward black seven inchers. :y
.....of which I have fondled many.
My first vinyl was 'Wild west hero' by ELO. Around 1976/77 if memory serves.
I do have a 12 inch version of Bon Jovi's, Never Say Goodbye in yellow which plays crap at the moment :(
I don't know if I need Kevin's contraption or a visit to the doctors to make it better though ;D ;D ;D
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It'll feel good to have a black twelve incher in your hands again, Mr Gonads. :)
Are you giving us the benefit of your vast experience again my lord :P ;D ;D ;D
My experience extends more toward black seven inchers. :y
.....of which I have fondled many.
My first vinyl was 'Wild west hero' by ELO. Around 1976/77 if memory serves.
I do have a 12 inch version of Bon Jovi's, Never Say Goodbye in yellow which plays crap at the moment :(
I don't know if I need Kevin's contraption or a visit to the doctors to make it better though ;D ;D ;D
I think the hiss and crackle are all part of the experience.
Following this thread I must invest in a turntable myself. :y
I have the Stranglers 'No more heroes' album from 1977. 'Bring on the nubiles' and 'Something better change' being my favourites. :y
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To true that
Imo, anything made before about 1986 when the first fully digital (DDD) compact discs came out will always sound better on good quality vinyl :y
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Moons ago when I used to work for Thorens / Ortofon as a Engineer we would always recommend people stay away from wet cleaners, as its a short fix only to haunt you second time around, try a get some old fashioned anti static wipe block, have a look on the Bay, a company called Metrosound used to make all kinds of stuff.
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When I get my chimney breast knocked out this year my turntable will be coming down from the loft, I`ve got various 12" singles plus over 300 albums to go through :)
I`ve got one of those anti static blocks too, a fibre bottom with carbon brushes front and back :y
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Zirk, that is spot-on! Once played "wet", as in the Lenco brush and reservoir system of those days, you will always have to play them wet. True, the cleaning fluid contains isopropyl alcohol, which is a good and safe solvent (especially important for stylus adhesive), but it cannot suck out the loosened debris like a deep cleanser.
I very much doubt that they are still in business, but Monks Audio used to offer such a service - if they still are, you won't need the capital outlay of a machine yourself.....
Ron.
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Zirk, that is spot-on! Once played "wet", as in the Lenco brush and reservoir system of those days, you will always have to play them wet. True, the cleaning fluid contains isopropyl alcohol, which is a good and safe solvent (especially important for stylus adhesive), but it cannot suck out the loosened debris like a deep cleanser.
I very much doubt that they are still in business, but Monks Audio used to offer such a service - if they still are, you won't need the capital outlay of a machine yourself.....
Ron.
Point taken, but if you thoroughly clean them wet, the effect is permanent. Most vinyl these days is dirty enough that dry cleaning doesn't help, although I'll always clean with a fibreglass brush before playing.
A vacuum record cleaner is better, of course, but an order of magnitude more expensive than the Disco Antistat, which I've found good enough to render the roughest "charity shop vinyl" as good as new.
Imo, anything made before about 1986 when the first fully digital (DDD) compact discs came out will always sound better on good quality vinyl :y
A lot of stuff since then is very poorly produced on CD too, and you simply can't get away with as much compression when making vinyl. Vinyl is undoubtedly a much poorer medium than CD from a technical perspective, but, the music available is better produced, for certain genres, at any rate. Classical music : CD every day of the week, though. Vinyl just doesn't have the dynamic range.
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When I get my chimney breast knocked out this year my turntable will be coming down from the loft, I`ve got various 12" singles plus over 300 albums to go through :)
I`ve got one of those anti static blocks too, a fibre bottom with carbon brushes front and back :y
Your chimney breast is blocking access to the loft? Weird. ;D
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When I get my chimney breast knocked out this year my turntable will be coming down from the loft, I`ve got various 12" singles plus over 300 albums to go through :)
I`ve got one of those anti static blocks too, a fibre bottom with carbon brushes front and back :y
Your chimney breast is blocking access to the loft? Weird. ;D
Ha ha ha No but my living room will be getting moved about and will accommodate my turntable and vinyl ;D
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You can still buy those old style fluff brush things but if its badly scratched just place an old penny or two on top of the needle while it plays :D Thats what i do and it still works on me shawaddywaddy album ;D ;D
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We don't own a turntable nor a cd player. I only listen to music occasionally in the car, as I always have the dog in the back and she goes a bit mental if I have it too loud. Mrs and boy do 'streaming', whatever that is, or listen to their devices with headphones.
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Get yourself a "Disco Antistat".
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Knosti-Cleaning-Machine-Generation/dp/B000BFXIVW (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Knosti-Cleaning-Machine-Generation/dp/B000BFXIVW)
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But you'd never fit a gold wrapped Lamborghini into that?
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I still have the first single I ever bought as a child in the early sixties Little White Bull by Tommy Steele !
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I still have the first single I ever bought as a child in the early sixties Little White Bull by Tommy Steele !
Mine was, of course, the Beatles.
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Heard it on Radio2 only yesterday that storing vinyl records vertically as opposed to horizontally is best-so at least I've got something right!-and that for some reason the coloured vinyl records deteriorate faster than the ordinary black ones.My first record purchase was Johnie Remember me by John Leyton :-X
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Heard it on Radio2 only yesterday that storing vinyl records vertically as opposed to horizontally is best-so at least I've got something right!-and that for some reason the coloured vinyl records deteriorate faster than the ordinary black ones.My first record purchase was Johnie Remember me by John Leyton :-X
All mine are in proper LP boxes so they`ll be fine too :y
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You can still buy those old style fluff brush things but if its badly scratched just place an old penny or two on top of the needle while it plays :D Thats what i do and it still works on me shawaddywaddy album ;D ;D
:o <sharp intake of breath> Not on my Benz MC cartridge!
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/26795734/Smilies/4199675334_66c3e3d61d_z.jpg)
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You can still buy those old style fluff brush things but if its badly scratched just place an old penny or two on top of the needle while it plays :D Thats what i do and it still works on me shawaddywaddy album ;D ;D
:o <sharp intake of breath> Not on my Benz MC cartridge!
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/26795734/Smilies/4199675334_66c3e3d61d_z.jpg)
;D ;D
Ive got an old hifi stacking system in the loft with the record player on top , Technics i think . Uses a lot of power but the sounds from the vinyl are great :) We have one of those retro looking lp players at the moment as it takes up less space but cant match the stacking system for sound quality .
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Some of the retro "record players" are a bit Neanderthal, and tend to gouge the tracks out of your vinyl in a few plays too. I reckon the Technics would be a better bet. :y
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I have an old Goldring Lenco GL75 turntable (the platter weighs nearly 10lbs), it was a refurb that my nephew sourced for me when he worked there 40+ years ago. Still sounds great.
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Yep, the old Lencos are quite respectable decks. :y
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I have a Rega Planer II, had over twenty years now, can`t remember which cartridge it has though.
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I chucked my B&O turntable and amp in a skip a few years back. Now of course I regret it, as I still have some of my old vinyl collection in the loft. ::)
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It'll feel good to have a black twelve incher in your hands again, Mr Gonads. :)
Are you giving us the benefit of your vast experience again my lord :P ;D ;D ;D
My experience extends more toward black seven inchers. :y
.....of which I have fondled many.
My first vinyl was 'Wild west hero' by ELO. Around 1876/77 if memory serves.
An original Edison wax cylinder that must be worth a princely sum M'lud. :) :) :)
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Heard it on Radio2 only yesterday that storing vinyl records vertically as opposed to horizontally is best-so at least I've got something right!-and that for some reason the coloured vinyl records deteriorate faster than the ordinary black ones.My first record purchase was Johnie Remember me by John Leyton :-X
Yep, same goes for Tape, anything from a Cassette, 8 Track, VHS right up to 2 inch Reel Masters, always store vertically. ;)
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Ordered the one in Kevin's link :y
Thanks for the advise lads.
I think due to the amount of crap on the discs, it will be a case of a few good wet cleans then a quick wipe with a antistatic brush before use.
Had a dig around yesterday and found a old sticky roller which I used to use.
Are these any good ?
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The fluid that comes with the Disco I find to be pretty good, by the way.
Once you've run out, a mixture of distilled water and IPA plus a little wetting agent is a good cheap substitute. :y
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The fluid that comes with the Disco I find to be pretty good, by the way.
Once you've run out, a mixture of distilled water and IPA plus a little wetting agent is a good cheap substitute. :y
Nothing like a good drop of Real Ale to get the ears ready for some music noise.