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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Mr Skrunts on 14 February 2016, 00:11:01
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Am bored, dont do much on the PC at all apart from store photo's/pictures and junk. Check my banks and pay bills etc, then on to the OOF forum they doodle on Facebook.
Fancied learning a bit of programming to learn how to make some utillities to help me sort files/photo's etc but thought that might get too complicated.
So now I fancy trying my hand at making my own website.
Problems are I haven't got the faintest idea where to start. Hosting, web design, guides on do's and dont's plus any legal requirements.
Any suggestions? :y
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...at the begining ;)
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Do you want to program and design from scratch - not so easy now on dynamically driven, database driven sites, as the Internet is a very hostile place - or us an off-the-shelf content management system like Wordpress, Drupal, Joomla etc.
Downside of the CMS systems is getting the layout right, as even if you write a new theme, there are often restrictions. Upside is you worry about content, not backend programming.
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1st step passed, I now know what CMS means . . . . I googled it ::)
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<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//IETF//DTD HTML 2.0//EN">
<HTML>
<HEAD>
<TITLE>
Hello World
</TITLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY>
<H1>Hi</H1>
<P>hello world</P>
</BODY>
</HTML>
:)
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1st step passed, I now know what CMS means . . . . I googled it ::)
Bugga . . . I forgot what it means allready. . . . . . :-\ :'(
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What you looking for Skrunts, lets try to narrow down what you have in mind, as I think the scope in your mind is probably too wide.
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Maybe something like MS Frontpage, altho thats a discontinued product now....but an equivalent perhaps :-\
I have used that in the past.....drag and drop.....then a bit of editing if it didn't quite do what you wanted it do ....
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blogger is very user friendly and easily adapted to a static website rather than a blog. free and owned by google. competitor product is wordpress
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What you looking for Skrunts, lets try to narrow down what you have in mind, as I think the scope in your mind is probably too wide.
Thats the problem, at this point I dont know, probably just something basic to learn with. Basically a test site for myself to learn how to set a page border, colour, add shapes then text, picture albums, links to other sites, I supose I would eventually call it my online scrap book with pages for my 1st car, 1st bike, places visited.
I know the above could be done using facebook with photo albums etc but then I learn noting.
A mate of mine taught himself from scratch and now is a self emplayed web designer with quite an interesting portfolio, at the same time he satarted I had no interest in that sort of thing, now my interest is just as a hobby I supppose and if I find I like getting creative then it might keep me out of mischief.
I think one thing I would like to try one day is getting a working spread sheet online or a database to list things for sale (am used to using spead sheets would have to learn how to use database.)
Not in a big rush to learn, am happy to plod along as I said its just knowing where to start. :-\
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If you want to start at the absolute beginning then copy the code I posted above into a text file (use the notepad or wordpad editor in any windows system).
Save the file (somewhere on your pc) with the ".htm" suffix instead of ".txt" and then open it with your preferred internet browser (IE, Firefox, Chrome etc). Voila - your first web page.
Once you have "Hello World" working then Google (and have a play with) 'html tags', 'tables', 'frames' and 'cascading style sheets' (css).
Have fun :y
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Where can I find a list of the basic formating commands. What would I be searching for, HTM or HTML?
1st was sucesful but I didnt get the top Hello world to display, is that correct.
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Where can I find a list of the basic formating commands. What would I be searching for, HTM or HTML?
1st was sucesful but I didnt get the top Hello world to display, is that correct.
Basic commands are called tags.
The first "hello world" is the title that appears on the title bar.
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Where can I find a list of the basic formating commands. What would I be searching for, HTM or HTML?
1st was sucesful but I didnt get the top Hello world to display, is that correct.
Best book I got was HTML for Dummies ... started on 3 then 4 ... latest is 5 plus CSS3 .. well worth buying if you are serious about writing web pages.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/HTML5-CSS3-All-One-Dummies/dp/1118289382
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Have a look here.....
http://www.w3schools.com/
think its exactly what you are looking for, to play with basic website coding
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Yes, Jimbobs link is what I use most frequently.
There is an awful lot on there, so just keep to 1 section to start with, and worry not about ASP(X), PHP, Perl and so on for now.
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Yes, Jimbobs link is what I use most frequently.
There is an awful lot on there, so just keep to 1 section to start with, and worry not about ASP(X), PHP, Perl and so on for now.
Brilliant site. Still playing about on the edit page, seems the simplest way to learn being able to type and see the result side by side. . . . Keeps me out of mischief
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Glad its proving handy :y
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For learning about coding I can heartily recomend a Raspberry Pi/Arduino. The former can even run it's own web server if you want to do your own website :y
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For learning about coding I can heartily recomend a Raspberry Pi/Arduino. The former can even run it's own web server if you want to do your own website :y
Temping but one step at a time. :-\
I have seen the raspberry kits for sale and have considered them but saw the Pine A64 mentioned a couple of weeks ago, maybe worth looking into. :y
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I mentioned programing earlier in this thread, and Guffers has just mentioned the Raspberry.
I have been playing with the idea of buying a desktop CNC engraver, router or laser etcher over the years (thats as far as it gets most times) and now there are 3D printer and scanners, maybe learning the web design might also get me interested in writing code to run programs one day, allthough maybe very different in the way each is written the principle behind all the input seems similar.
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The Raspberry Pi is a great device to play with for learning certain types of web programming. If looking for a LAMP (Linux, Apache, MySQL, PHP/Perl) its not bad, expecially the Raspberry Pi 2 (about £28). Just leave it headless somewhere.
I would use nginx in place of Apache though, for performance/resource reasons.