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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: JamesV6CDX on 19 July 2008, 13:44:26
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Given that anyone who drives at the speed limit seems to be regularly tailgaited (despite driving very defensively) and so many muppets on the motorway pull out without looking, I've decided to invest in a couple of descreet dash cams. One pointing forwards, one at the rear.
2gb SD cards = about 4 hours of driving.
Would make things so much easier to prove, should one of the muppets give you a nudge ;D
Not bad at £38 a peice :y
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(http://www.ubergizmo.com/photos/2007/12/carcam_468.jpg)
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what about those dummy cams in poundland- look ok and may sh^t crap drivers up when they notice them? ;D
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Could prove a useful asset :y How would it stand as evidence if presented? would it be given weight is what I am trying to ask
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what about those dummy cams in poundland- look ok and may sh^t crap drivers up when they notice them? ;D
Given the low cost, I'd rather have the real article.. :y
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Could prove a useful asset :y How would it stand as evidence if presented? would it be given weight is what I am trying to ask
I honestly don't know, but I think it would be worth having up your sleeve..... :y
A Police Force recently got a sucesfull prosecution from a low res youtube video ::)
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I don't think it would be admissible? Thats even assuming that firstly the police, and secondly the CPS, give a monkeys.
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Could prove a useful asset :y How would it stand as evidence if presented? would it be given weight is what I am trying to ask
I honestly don't know, but I think it would be worth having up your sleeve..... :y
A Police Force recently got a sucesfull prosecution from a low res youtube video ::)
:o :o So would it run when parked also? To act as a further deterant? That would be even better :y
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I don't think it would be admissible? Thats even assuming that firstly the police, and secondly the CPS, give a monkeys.
I think it would only be useful in the event there was a serious accident, I'm sure it would at least be looked at under those circumstances.
I wouldn't want it for any other reason tbh
Just hope the camera doesn't get destroyed in the smashup ;D
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Could prove a useful asset :y How would it stand as evidence if presented? would it be given weight is what I am trying to ask
I honestly don't know, but I think it would be worth having up your sleeve..... :y
A Police Force recently got a sucesfull prosecution from a low res youtube video ::)
:o :o So would it run when parked also? To act as a further deterant? That would be even better :y
I'd be more worried about some scrote nicking the camera ;D
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I was wondering about something similar. How about fitting it to say the passenger's headrest?. That way you would get a pic including your speed, and poss a view of the mirrors, so you would get a better pic of what what was actually happening, eg if someone sideswiped you while passing. The other thing is to get one on a headset so the camera actualy sees what you see. Mind you, do you think having one of these would make you modify your driving habits?.
Ken
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Mind you, do you think having one of these would make you modify your driving habits?.
Ken
Possibly so, but only for the better :y
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I don't think it would be admissible? Thats even assuming that firstly the police, and secondly the CPS, give a monkeys.
Maybe not but in the event of a crash I think your insurance company would be interested in the footage.
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Could prove a useful asset :y How would it stand as evidence if presented? would it be given weight is what I am trying to ask
I honestly don't know, but I think it would be worth having up your sleeve..... :y
A Police Force recently got a sucesfull prosecution from a low res youtube video ::)
:o :o So would it run when parked also? To act as a further deterant? That would be even better :y
I'd be more worried about some scrote nicking the camera ;D
Well yeah! Had not considered that. the estate got broken into the other night.... what did they nick..... my elton john CD, and my fags :D I did laugh.
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I don't think it would be admissible? Thats even assuming that firstly the police, and secondly the CPS, give a monkeys.
I think it would only be useful in the event there was a serious accident, I'm sure it would at least be looked at under those circumstances.
I wouldn't want it for any other reason tbh
Just hope the camera doesn't get destroyed in the smashup ;D
I would. I want to mount one on the bottom of the nosecone of the westfield and give it a serious caning drive around carefully observing the speed limits for a while and see what the footage looks like form 4" off the tarmac. ;D
BTW PM Sent, James. Little LPG query - like how the break do you work an LPG pump? :-[
Kevin
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How long before in this society that is rapidly heading towards 1984, all cars are fitted with cameras, permanently recording everything, and once a month you get a bill for all speeding tickets, parking tickets, and automatically sent on "driving improvment" courses. :P And the next step is to lock all bonnets, so they can only be serviced by garages, for safety reasons of course. :P :P :P
Ken
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No PM received yet ::)
Usually just, place over filler, locating lugs, turn clockwise, pull handle and clamp down the little locking button, and then hold the button on the pump..
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Should have a PM now. :y
I thought there shouldn't be too much to it, but would it play ball? >:(
Incidentally, I have seen "Police Stop!" type programs full of footage from cameras like these. I think there is a system you can get that instantly uploads a video via GPRS in the event of a crash so there is an audit trail and no possibility of the footage getting tamered with. Not sure if our antiquated court system would appreciate it though.
Kevin
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I don't think it would be admissible? Thats even assuming that firstly the police, and secondly the CPS, give a monkeys.
I think it would only be useful in the event there was a serious accident, I'm sure it would at least be looked at under those circumstances.
I wouldn't want it for any other reason tbh
Just hope the camera doesn't get destroyed in the smashup ;D
Wonder if it may be classed as entrapment - you have installed the camera with no other purpose than to try to catch out other drivers.
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I don't think it would be admissible? Thats even assuming that firstly the police, and secondly the CPS, give a monkeys.
I think it would only be useful in the event there was a serious accident, I'm sure it would at least be looked at under those circumstances.
I wouldn't want it for any other reason tbh
Just hope the camera doesn't get destroyed in the smashup ;D
Wonder if it may be classed as entrapment - you have installed the camera with no other purpose than to try to catch out other drivers.
It's not to catch out anyone at all, why do you think that?
It's purely to assist in proving liability in the event of an insurance dispute, if there is an accident..
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I don't think it would be admissible? Thats even assuming that firstly the police, and secondly the CPS, give a monkeys.
I think it would only be useful in the event there was a serious accident, I'm sure it would at least be looked at under those circumstances.
I wouldn't want it for any other reason tbh
Just hope the camera doesn't get destroyed in the smashup ;D
Wonder if it may be classed as entrapment - you have installed the camera with no other purpose than to try to catch out other drivers.
It's not to catch out anyone at all, why do you think that?
It's purely to assist in proving liability in the event of an insurance dispute, if there is an accident..
you have preemptively set up cameras. I think if it went to court, defence would have a field day with that
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I don't think it would be admissible? Thats even assuming that firstly the police, and secondly the CPS, give a monkeys.
I think it would only be useful in the event there was a serious accident, I'm sure it would at least be looked at under those circumstances.
I wouldn't want it for any other reason tbh
Just hope the camera doesn't get destroyed in the smashup ;D
Wonder if it may be classed as entrapment - you have installed the camera with no other purpose than to try to catch out other drivers.
It's not to catch out anyone at all, why do you think that?
It's purely to assist in proving liability in the event of an insurance dispute, if there is an accident..
you have preemptively set up cameras. I think if it went to court, defence would have a field day with that
If I preemptively set up cameras on my house, and then used them to prosecute a someone who drove through my fence = would they have a field day with that too?
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If I preemptively set up cameras on my house, and then used them to prosecute a someone who drove through my fence = would they have a field day with that too?
Sadly they'd probably do you for operating a CCTV system without the required warning signs, etc. and let the crims off with a caution. >:(
Kevin
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If I preemptively set up cameras on my house, and then used them to prosecute a someone who drove through my fence = would they have a field day with that too?
Sadly they'd probably do you for operating a CCTV system without the required warning signs, etc. and let the crims off with a caution. >:(
Kevin
And if there were warning signs ::)
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If I remember you do have to inform people you are filming them. HR rubbish.
Just get guard geese ;) the evil swines ;D
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will definately invest in one of these in a short while
might even inform the insurance company that i have it!
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I will obviously check out the legality and any requirements before proceeding, but I do like the principle.
End of the day, we can't get out of speeding fines because the government "pre-emtively" set up speed cameras to catch us :D ::)
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I will obviously check out the legality and any requirements before proceeding, but I do like the principle.
End of the day, we can't get out of speeding fines because the government "pre-emtively" set up speed cameras to catch us :D ::)
True.
I think it's a good idea, but it would probably have to be a recognised system with the backing of the police, insurers, etc. to carry any weight. However, it can't do any harm, IMHO, and it's valuable even if it is only for your own use in order to remind yourself of the circumstances.
Kevin
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I don't think it would be admissible? Thats even assuming that firstly the police, and secondly the CPS, give a monkeys.
I think it would only be useful in the event there was a serious accident, I'm sure it would at least be looked at under those circumstances.
I wouldn't want it for any other reason tbh
Just hope the camera doesn't get destroyed in the smashup ;D
where are they for sale at that price?
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I will obviously check out the legality and any requirements before proceeding, but I do like the principle.
End of the day, we can't get out of speeding fines because the government "pre-emtively" set up speed cameras to catch us :D ::)
only there are approved types, calibrated regularly (daily in the vans)
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If I preemptively set up cameras on my house, and then used them to prosecute a someone who drove through my fence = would they have a field day with that too?
Sadly they'd probably do you for operating a CCTV system without the required warning signs, etc. and let the crims off with a caution. >:(
Kevin
There should be no problem as long asthe video is only recording your own property, if you go outside that boundary then they may take a different view. :-/
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Or better still, get some of these.........
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Spy-Sunglasses-Camera-With-2GB-Flash-Memory-SD-NEW_W0QQitemZ370069760439QQihZ024QQcategoryZ106260QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742.m153.l1262
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i think i prefer the first one!
i like the idea i've seen before where it's not always constant recording, but has a save function where it saves the last 10 seconds of footage at the press of a button, so if you just missed an incident and hit the button, it captures it