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Title: Litter- where did it go wrong?
Post by: Varche on 04 March 2016, 12:02:37
A lot of us will be of the era when there was a big anti litter campaign - was it keep Britain tidy in the late 60' ? and we probably stuck to that.

I am always appalled at the amount of litter everywhere Uk and here in Spain. Two things that bug me are the folk who walk along unwrapping something (cigarettes, new phone, ice cream etc) and the wrapping just drops out of their hands. Who do they think picks it up? The other one here are the actual farmers (many claim to love the countryside compared to towns) . They have a litre bottle of beer at lunch and just leave the bottle propped up against a tree or a stone on their own land. Eventually it smashes. They also leave none biodegrable stuff like empty tuna tins and sometimes tidy up by tieing it in a poly bag and leaving it near a tree stump. Next day a wild animal has ripped it open.

I am not sure I like the tag clean for the quean but anything that tidies up our environment has got to be good.

What do you think? Is it another one of my I blame it on the parents?

(typo will be spotted by avid Scrabblers)
Title: Re: Litter- where did it go wrong?
Post by: Mr Gav on 04 March 2016, 14:48:14
Probably the parents and the society in which we live nowadays.

My personal hatred is people chucking their Maccy D`s crap out of the car window.
Title: Re: Litter- where did it go wrong?
Post by: Entwood on 04 March 2016, 15:03:59
Walking the hound the other night a guy was stopped by a hedge on the estate emptying his rubbish/cans/ashtray etc INTO the hedge, on the opposite side of the road is a bin. :(  He got pretty upset and gave me quite a mouthful when I got out the phone and started taking pictures - flash was a bit of a give away - but when I included his registration plate he suddenly picked most of it up, dumped it on the back seat (why not use the bin I had shown him ??) and drove away at great speed ....  with that mentality we have no chance of a tidy country.  :(
Title: Re: Litter- where did it go wrong?
Post by: aaronjb on 04 March 2016, 15:11:11
I live down a small private (well, unadopted) road with a parking/turning area at the end.

One neighbour leaves his bins there all the time, as it's clearly too difficult to take them back to his house (he has the largest, longest drive and most parking available yet always uses the visitor parking..).  The bins are usually overflowing and so paper, cardboard and sometimes even food end up littered around the road - he's never made any effort to clear any of it up and it makes it look like we live like pikeys. >:( Drives me mad.

He also habitually puts the wrong things in the recycling bin so every month it will end up taped shut with a big label on it explaining what he's doing wrong.. of course it remains un-emptied until the bin men take pity and empty it anyway, and in the mean time he tends to pile his rubbish up in bags in the car park..
Title: Re: Litter- where did it go wrong?
Post by: STEMO on 04 March 2016, 18:45:03
It's dog shit that gets people going up here. Loads of it in every green space.
Never used to be like that, folk were quite diligent in bagging it up and dropping it in the appropriate bin. Until the council decided they couldn't afford to pay anyone to empty the bins and took them all away. Now, if you're a good, law abiding citizen, you have to carry your poo bag all the way around the walk, because dogs invariably crap as soon as they're out of the car.
Title: Re: Litter- where did it go wrong?
Post by: Varche on 04 March 2016, 19:15:53
No litter bins or poo bins? Well straight away we can see one problem. What the hell is wrong with councils? What next can't afford to empty household rubbish bins?

Title: Re: Litter- where did it go wrong?
Post by: Bigron on 04 March 2016, 21:11:50
They cannot afford these facilities because of a process known as virement - the re-allocation of funds from one budget to another. In the case of councils, it helps to pay for their inflated salaries.......

Ron.
Title: Re: Litter- where did it go wrong?
Post by: andyc on 04 March 2016, 21:17:04
We have a guy in our town who has taken it on himself to clear the rubbish out of the local rive about twice a week, lets just say most of the cans have names on them that I cannot pronounce.

He post on the local forum a couple of days ago that he collect sixty pieces of rubbish from mile stretch of the river.

Andy
Title: Re: Litter- where did it go wrong?
Post by: 2boxerdogs on 04 March 2016, 23:53:36
We have a guy in our town who has taken it on himself to clear the rubbish out of the local rive about twice a week, lets just say most of the cans have names on them that I cannot pronounce.

He post on the local forum a couple of days ago that he collect sixty pieces of rubbish from mile stretch of the river.

Andy
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Similar here, by the river empty cans of beer I've never heard of, and burger boxes & other general rubbish .Such a shame used to be a lovely little market town 30 years ago when we came here, now ruined will move from here when SWMBO retires.Some people have no pride & no thought for others.
Title: Re: Litter- where did it go wrong?
Post by: Bigron on 05 March 2016, 00:06:08
Tilbo, one of my favourite places to go and stare at the sea is Portland Bill, in Dorset - apart from in August/high season, it is quiet and unspoiled, which is why most people go there.
Why, oh WHY do the behaviourally-challenged seek to destroy the very things that they came to find with their litter, noise and unruly kids?

Ron.
Title: Re: Litter- where did it go wrong?
Post by: SteveAvfc. on 05 March 2016, 00:22:37
I find it totally sickening the amount of rubbish that is around the area where i live. I take my dog out twice a day one being 4am in the morning and it beggars belief what turns up from the previous evening. Its not just household waste ie black bags but its mattress its fridges its settees its every thing that fills a home. I for one hate it, and whilst never wanting big brother to watch over me would welcome more cameras to catch and prosecute these dirty individuals. 
Where has peoples pride gone in where they.  :'(
Title: Re: Litter- where did it go wrong?
Post by: 2boxerdogs on 05 March 2016, 05:27:24
Tilbo, one of my favourite places to go and stare at the sea is Portland Bill, in Dorset - apart from in August/high season, it is quiet and unspoiled, which is why most people go there.
Why, oh WHY do the behaviourally-challenged seek to destroy the very things that they came to find with their litter, noise and unruly kids?

Ron.





Ron, I don't know the answer to the problem I have challenged people who do this some pick their rubbish up ,some hurl abuse at me but I can deal with that, I just wonder what this country will be like a few years down the road. We moved from South London to Spalding 30 years ago but now our town centre is worse than what we moved away from,and I realise some may feel I am being inappropriate but the Eastern European businesses are a complete blight on the town. The once tidy & pleasant riverside walk is littered with rubbish & the factory workers who are now mostly Eastern Europeans use the banks as a meeting place & a toilet.Can't wait to get away from here.


Mick.
Title: Re: Litter- where did it go wrong?
Post by: ronnyd on 05 March 2016, 12:17:13
Why do some dog owners day up their dogs crap up then just chuck it into the nearest hedge?  Some places where I walk have loads hanging there, looks horrible :(
Title: Re: Litter- where did it go wrong?
Post by: GastronomicKleptomaniac on 05 March 2016, 18:29:57
I speak as a man who has never dropped a single piece of litter in his many years on the planet... and also as one who dumped a girl for throwing a McDs bag of rubbish from his car window.
 There is no excuse at all, its pure selfish laziness.
Title: Re: Litter- where did it go wrong?
Post by: 2boxerdogs on 05 March 2016, 19:04:13
I speak as a man who has never dropped a single piece of litter in his many years on the planet... and also as one who dumped a girl for throwing a McDs bag of rubbish from his car window.
 There is no excuse at all, its pure selfish laziness.





Totally agree, lazy selfish ba**ards.
Title: Re: Litter- where did it go wrong?
Post by: STEMO on 05 March 2016, 19:25:11
If my dog does a turd in the park, and there's no one about....I have one too.  ;D
Title: Re: Litter- where did it go wrong?
Post by: V8S on 08 June 2016, 14:50:52
The estate where my girlfriend lives is habitually littered with rubbish, mainly because the wind knocks bins over and then spreads it about. People aren't allowed to bungi the bins shut, because it's too much work for the bin men. It's also caused by proximity to a local shop, so people buy drinks and snacks and by the time they've finished them it's just about near my girlfriend's house so just gets dropped.

Several times I've gone round with a litter picker and people look at me like I'm mad, and the next week it's back to looking like crap again.

Most people don't have pride in where they live anymore.

But the main thing that needs doing is less packaging and more bins.

Bought some burgers the other day for a bbq. MASSIVE packaging about twice the size needed.
Title: Re: Litter- where did it go wrong?
Post by: aaronjb on 08 June 2016, 14:54:24
Most people don't have pride in where they live anymore.

Like my next door neighbour who habitually puts non-recycling in his recycling bin, so that hasn't been emptied in months (they have stuck labels on it explaining why, he takes them off, rams more in, they've written to him etc).
Now he just dumps everything next to the bin.
Which he leaves out in the "visitor parking" area at the end of the cul-de-sac.
Which happens to be right outside my front door.

Current occupancy:
Many beer bottles
A fridge/freezer drawer
The box from a four-rotor drone
The box from a golf caddy
And whatever has blown out of his bin
Title: Re: Litter- where did it go wrong?
Post by: V8S on 08 June 2016, 15:08:44
Sounds like posting it back through his letter box might be an idea  :y
Title: Re: Litter- where did it go wrong?
Post by: biggriffin on 08 June 2016, 15:28:45
Most people don't have pride in where they live anymore.

Like my next door neighbour who habitually puts non-recycling in his recycling bin, so that hasn't been emptied in months (they have stuck labels on it explaining why, he takes them off, rams more in, they've written to him etc).
Now he just dumps everything next to the bin.
Which he leaves out in the "visitor parking" area at the end of the cul-de-sac.
Which happens to be right outside my front door.

Current occupancy:
Many beer bottles
A fridge/freezer drawer
The box from a four-rotor drone
The box from a golf caddy
And whatever has blown out of his bin

I'm assuming this gentleman believes, I've paid my council tax it there job, because I'm very important/bizzy.
Title: Re: Litter- where did it go wrong?
Post by: STEMO on 08 June 2016, 17:47:55
Most people don't have pride in where they live anymore.

Like my next door neighbour who habitually puts non-recycling in his recycling bin, so that hasn't been emptied in months (they have stuck labels on it explaining why, he takes them off, rams more in, they've written to him etc).
Now he just dumps everything next to the bin.
Which he leaves out in the "visitor parking" area at the end of the cul-de-sac.
Which happens to be right outside my front door.

Current occupancy:
Many beer bottles
A fridge/freezer drawer
The box from a four-rotor drone
The box from a golf caddy
And whatever has blown out of his bin

I'm assuming this gentleman believes, I've paid my council tax it there job, because I'm very important/bizzy.
Our council would warn him then fine him and, if he didn't pay, take him to court. Seen it done.

Start complaining and asking how they would view it if everyone started behaving in the same manner. Or just go down one night and chuck it all on his doorstep. Yes...do the latter and report back when you get out of hospital.  :)
Title: Re: Litter- where did it go wrong?
Post by: Mister Rog on 08 June 2016, 18:00:09


Round my way people do actually get done for dropping fag butts, usually in the shopping precinct that has CCTV. The real messy litter is the stuff that get thrown out of car windows, usually McDs or similar. They don't get nicked

My Mrs is a bit evangelical about litter. Picks stuff up and puts it into bins. Yes we do have quite a lot of bins that do get emptied  :y
Title: Re: Litter- where did it go wrong?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 08 June 2016, 18:18:29
Probably the parents and the society in which we live nowadays.

My personal hatred is people chucking their Maccy D`s crap out of the car window.

Yep. Saw a whole tray of Mc'D's crap fly out of the window of a white van the other day. >:(

They cause such a large proportion of the total litter you see.
Title: Re: Litter- where did it go wrong?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 08 June 2016, 18:19:33
Another bugbear of mine is council bins that get left so full that the contents blow all over the place. "We pay our council tax...", etc.. >:(
Title: Re: Litter- where did it go wrong?
Post by: Mister Rog on 08 June 2016, 18:31:19
Probably the parents and the society in which we live nowadays.

My personal hatred is people chucking their Maccy D`s crap out of the car window.

Yep. Saw a whole tray of Mc'D's crap fly out of the window of a white van the other day. >:(

They cause such a large proportion of the total litter you see.

Of course, packaging in general makes up the bulk of all litter. Very strict where I am about recycling, and we do everything right ( I think  :-\ ) We fill 4 or more Blue recycle bags that get collected every 2 weeks. All packaging of some kind. My empty wine bottles get taken to the bottle bank  ::)
Title: Re: Litter- where did it go wrong?
Post by: biggriffin on 08 June 2016, 20:15:39
Councils, have started to remove litter bins for "cost savings" why not just reduce the top brasses'  wages, be a bigger saving ;D

Why does business always prune fom the bottom and wonders why it dies :o
Title: Re: Litter- where did it go wrong?
Post by: Webby the Bear on 08 June 2016, 20:28:22
It's a bug bear of mine to see pigs dropping litter. Do people not care about crapping on their own doorstep. Then they're the first ones to complain they live in a shite hole.

It's all relative though i suppose. I mean yes I assume the bulk of litter is dropped by younger folk. But the older generation gave us Tony Blair. So good and bad to every generation I suppose lol
Title: Re: Litter- where did it go wrong?
Post by: aaronjb on 08 June 2016, 21:40:04
Yes...do the latter and report back when you get out of hospital.  :)

He's a builder and his surname starts with O' .. I might not make it to hospital! ;D
Title: Re: Litter- where did it go wrong?
Post by: steve6367 on 08 June 2016, 21:53:39
Starts in school - staff employed to pickup rubbish after break and lunch. Starts young people off with the idea that you drop it and someone else picks it up.  :(
Title: Re: Litter- where did it go wrong?
Post by: Mr.OmegaMan on 08 June 2016, 21:53:43
People throwing cigarettes out their vehicles annoys me. Had one the other week it was still glowing as it left the car and somehow bounced onto my windscreen...... At least put the bloody thing out before throwing them if their going to do so or preferably shove it in the ashtray!
Title: Re: Litter- where did it go wrong?
Post by: TheBoy on 08 June 2016, 22:36:21
No litter bins or poo bins? Well straight away we can see one problem. What the hell is wrong with councils? What next can't afford to empty household rubbish bins?
There is a strange tradition in Bletchley - the shithole where I used to work - those that did pick up dogshit would then tie the bag to a branch, perfect for walking into if not paying attention.  WTF?
Title: Re: Litter- where did it go wrong?
Post by: V8S on 08 June 2016, 22:53:02
I work in a very well-to-do town populated by old gits with small dogs like dachshunds. Quite a few of them can't bend down to pick up the plop so it can be a slalom course walking to work sometimes.

Luckily it's rare.
Title: Re: Litter- where did it go wrong?
Post by: Mister Rog on 08 June 2016, 23:32:13
People throwing cigarettes out their vehicles annoys me. Had one the other week it was still glowing as it left the car and somehow bounced onto my windscreen...... At least put the bloody thing out before throwing them if their going to do so or preferably shove it in the ashtray!

preferably shove it . . . . . . . not permitted
Title: Re: Litter- where did it go wrong?
Post by: biggriffin on 09 June 2016, 21:44:03
People throwing cigarettes out their vehicles annoys me. Had one the other week it was still glowing as it left the car and somehow bounced onto my windscreen...... At least put the bloody thing out before throwing them if their going to do so or preferably shove it in the ashtray!

preferably shove it . . . . . . . not permitted

Lots of modern vehicles don't have them.