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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: Kate on 09 March 2016, 21:13:33
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Hi all.
Got my new Omega yesterday and took it for its MOT. It failed on a few things but I'm not sure what parts I need to buy to get it sorted. Here are the ones I'm confused with:
004 Anto roll bar linkage has excessive play in a pin/bush offside front
005 Suspension arm has excessive play in a ball joint nearside rear (track control arm)
Can anyone help please? :y
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Here is a copy of the fail sheet:
https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=CFCF2657E747879F!3649&authkey=!ANJG25RjCCg1L-A&v=3&ithint=photo%2cjpg (https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=CFCF2657E747879F!3649&authkey=!ANJG25RjCCg1L-A&v=3&ithint=photo%2cjpg)
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Hi all.
Got my new Omega yesterday and took it for its MOT. It failed on a few things but I'm not sure what parts I need to buy to get it sorted. Here are the ones I'm confused with:
004 Anti roll bar linkage has excessive play in a pin/bush offside front
005 Suspension arm has excessive play in a ball joint nearside rear (track control arm)
Can anyone help please? :y
004 is a droplink £10 and 10 minutes work.
005 can only be the rear camber adjuster, but quite how they discovered play in it at an MOT is beyond me. Clarification is required before going any further. Not an expensive part or job, but it should have an alignment session afterwards.
Having looked at you failure sheet:
001 could be a poorly fitted bulb, but a broken adjuster is more likely
002&3 some idiot has fitted directional tyres the wrong way! you might get away with swapping them side to side
006&7 proper repair is new pipes, which will be expected now the fault is on the system.
008&9 photo required, but the bumper isn't metal, so you could probably sort this with duct tape.
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Thanks Nick. :y
They gave me a written quote too:
https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=CFCF2657E747879F!3650&authkey=!ANxrwPXzN9ck47c&v=3&ithint=photo%2cjpg (https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=CFCF2657E747879F!3650&authkey=!ANxrwPXzN9ck47c&v=3&ithint=photo%2cjpg)
https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=CFCF2657E747879F!3651&authkey=!AIQW7Smlcmz6CQE&v=3&ithint=photo%2cjpg (https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=CFCF2657E747879F!3651&authkey=!AIQW7Smlcmz6CQE&v=3&ithint=photo%2cjpg)
Does that help explain it?
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On 001 he said the lenses were frosted and might need polishing.
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On 001 he said the lenses were frosted and might need polishing.
Gradually using finer wet and dry followed by a polish and new bulbs should suffice... Basically they're looking for a defined beam, which cloudy lenses don't show...
As above re drop link and rear track rod... Eurocarparts did have Lemforder rear track rods on offer, about £40 each iirc
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On 001 he said the lenses were frosted and might need polishing.
Even better, as you don't need to remove them from the car. This might help: [size=78%]http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=134048.15 (http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=134048.15)[/size]
quick cheap and easy fix.
I'm still not convinced by the rear balljoint, and you've got to be looking at an hour's work(depending on exactly which pipe) to sort the brake pipes plus the couple of quids worth of materials.
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Thanks I'll have a go at doing the lights myself and I can fix the bumper.
Would I be able to buy the parts I need off eBay? Can anyone point me in the right direction? Or would Euro parts be better? I haven't got a clue what I need to buy tbh.
Thanks for all the help. :y
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Think I paid about £50 each for Rear Track Control Arm - LEMFORDER 16243 01 :)
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i do wonder if they have gone to town on that mot inspection.
my mot place regularly passes the headlights even though i'm sure the adjusters are broken. the beam is ok but not perfect. the lenses are a bit cloudy. they also told me off the record to wire brush and paint the osr brake pipe and it has passed ever since. if i had a sharp edge i hadn't fixed i'm sure they would bash it to non sharp foc. once he said off the record i needed to clean up some rust on the underside - I just wirebrushed it and treated with anti rust and it has never appeared on advisories.
i'm also pretty sure mine wouldn't write down most of those advisories - he'd just have quiet word. only gripe is twice over the years i have been caught with 'not yellow in enough indicator bulbs'. he keeps a stock of news ones and fitted them foc though i had to pay full price for them.
on the other hand maybe your tester has held back and really the car's a complete wreck :'(. it was free though :)
I would suggest taking it to another mot place but i haven't yet worked out if it is all computerised now and the new place will see the recent failures. years back you could get 2 completely different mot results within the same day from different places and that's with a genuine inspection each time.
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Stop pissing around.. bring it over here... this one passed, But had a advisory on a track rod end... (but he let it go)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/70807181/scrap.jpg)
The cars in the background have all passed and are awaiting collection
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It was o/s before you ask ;D ;D ;D
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all the sharp edges seem to have been bent back nicely...
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That really made me laugh ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Stop pissing around.. bring it over here... this one passed, But had a advisory on a track rod end... (but he let it go)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/70807181/scrap.jpg)
The cars in the background have all passed and are awaiting collection
Waste.of a perfectly good lamp post by the looks of it... :D
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Hi Kate
What a shame ,it just goes to show the inconsistency of the MOT test and testers.
When I took it for test it failed on the jacking point corrosion and that was it!!! Did they not pick up on that?
The brake pipes were an advisory I think,the fail sheet is in the car with you.
I did however swap the wheels and tyres over so its not on the same ones and to be honest I did not really look at them to hard as they were legal and I thought it was probably going for scrap.
It sounds to me like you got the wrong tester on the wrong day.
All the best
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Stop pissing around.. bring it over here... this one passed, But had a advisory on a track rod end... (but he let it go)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/70807181/scrap.jpg)
The cars in the background have all passed and are awaiting collection
Waste.of a perfectly good lamp post by the looks of it... :D
I dunno. One less Panzerwagen... ;)
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i do wonder if they have gone to town on that mot inspection.
my mot place regularly passes the headlights even though i'm sure the adjusters are broken. the beam is ok but not perfect. the lenses are a bit cloudy. they also told me off the record to wire brush and paint the osr brake pipe and it has passed ever since. if i had a sharp edge i hadn't fixed i'm sure they would bash it to non sharp foc. once he said off the record i needed to clean up some rust on the underside - I just wirebrushed it and treated with anti rust and it has never appeared on advisories.
i'm also pretty sure mine wouldn't write down most of those advisories - he'd just have quiet word. only gripe is twice over the years i have been caught with 'not yellow in enough indicator bulbs'. he keeps a stock of news ones and fitted them foc though i had to pay full price for them.
on the other hand maybe your tester has held back and really the car's a complete wreck :'( . it was free though :)
I would suggest taking it to another mot place but i haven't yet worked out if it is all computerised now and the new place will see the recent failures. years back you could get 2 completely different mot results within the same day from different places and that's with a genuine inspection each time.
Yes, the details are on the computer and any tester will see them. Now that it actually has failed on corroded brake pipes, nobody with any sense will pass it until they have been replaced. Any tester I've seen would have marked the actual corrosion he was unhappy with. As no dismantling or deliberate damage is allowed, you err on the side of caution especially for safety related things that often only get fixed because they've failed an MOT! There is still an element of judgement for much of the MOT, this is where your relationship with the garage comes into play - I've had them tell me that should have been an advisory, but I didn't write it up because I know you'll fix it.
Kate's failure sheet looks bad, but most of it is actually pretty cheap to deal with. The brake pipes are the job where DIY will make the biggest saving.
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I found a used track control arm on eBay. Would it be okay to use that?
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Hi Kate
What a shame ,it just goes to show the inconsistency of the MOT test and testers.
When I took it for test it failed on the jacking point corrosion and that was it!!! Did they not pick up on that?
The brake pipes were an advisory I think,the fail sheet is in the car with you.
I did however swap the wheels and tyres over so its not on the same ones and to be honest I did not really look at them to hard as they were legal and I thought it was probably going for scrap.
It sounds to me like you got the wrong tester on the wrong day.
All the best
No corrosion was found Andy. It's magically fixed itself. ;D
I'll get everything sorted for the test so no worries. Maybe the tester was strict but I don't have to pay for welding so it's six and two three's really. :y
Thanks again for letting me have your Omega. I'm really really pleased with it. :y
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I found a used track control arm on eBay. Would it be okay to use that?
Physically you can... in reality it is probably seized solid and or bent. Also, considering the price will be most of a new one... ::)