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Title: How to. Help please:)
Post by: Webby the Bear on 29 March 2016, 20:45:42
Evening guys.

Please don't mock. But we have a focus of 05 vintage that needs a near side inner cv boot fitting. I have never replaced one of these. What's the procedure in general? Presuming drive shaft out, inner joint will tap off, new boot and reverse of removal. Anything to be cautious of? Thinking needle bearings flying out everywhere but any info would be sweet :-)
Title: Re: How to. Help please:)
Post by: STEMO on 29 March 2016, 20:47:24
Al is the new focus expert, although that one is a bit modern for him.
Title: Re: How to. Help please:)
Post by: Nick W on 29 March 2016, 20:51:59
Inner joints are often an integral part of the driveshaft, so you will probably have to stretch the new boot into place.
Title: Re: How to. Help please:)
Post by: 05omegav6 on 29 March 2016, 20:58:31
Al is the new focus expert, although that one is a bit modern for him.
:P
Title: Re: How to. Help please:)
Post by: Webby the Bear on 29 March 2016, 21:01:37
Inner joints are often an integral part of the driveshaft, so you will probably have to stretch the new boot into place.

Cheers Nick. If that's the case could I not take off the outer joint to get my new inner boot on?
Title: Re: How to. Help please:)
Post by: Lazydocker on 29 March 2016, 21:14:29
TBH, most places just replace the shaft.

But yes, probably. But surely your place have got the stretchy fitter?
Title: Re: How to. Help please:)
Post by: Webby the Bear on 29 March 2016, 21:19:03
TBH, most places just replace the shaft.

But yes, probably. But surely your place have got the stretchy fitter?

As in the cone? Yeah we've got that so should be ok. But occasionally if a stretchy boot isn't available we've had to get the joints off and mess about a bit.
Title: Re: How to. Help please:)
Post by: Lazydocker on 29 March 2016, 21:23:00
TBH, most places just replace the shaft.

But yes, probably. But surely your place have got the stretchy fitter?

As in the cone? Yeah we've got that so should be ok. But occasionally if a stretchy boot isn't available we've had to get the joints off and mess about a bit.

There's a fancy air operated one too ::)
Title: Re: How to. Help please:)
Post by: Bigron on 29 March 2016, 21:25:10
I may well get ridiculed for this suggestion, but back in the days when I had a Renault 4  :-[ and needed to change the CV joint boots for MOT purposes, even though the joints themselves were ok, my then garage used "zippable" boots that could be fitted without disturbing the joints. Are they available for your car, I wonder? No idea who manufactured them, sorry........

Ron.
Title: Re: How to. Help please:)
Post by: BazaJT on 29 March 2016, 21:35:03
I remember seeing that type of thing for sale as a "universal" fitting for sale in motor factors,not seen any for yonks though,but then it's not an item I go looking for.
Title: Re: How to. Help please:)
Post by: serek on 29 March 2016, 21:39:34
TBH, most places just replace the shaft.

But yes, probably. But surely your place have got the stretchy fitter?

As in the cone? Yeah we've got that so should be ok. But occasionally if a stretchy boot isn't available we've had to get the joints off and mess about a bit.

There's a fancy air operated one too ::)
thats what we use on daily bases https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEKY0uFlBpc
Title: Re: How to. Help please:)
Post by: lee4206 on 29 March 2016, 21:49:23
If it's the type I think it is remove the drive shaft from hub, release the larger clip from the inner boot and pull the shaft out.  There's a joint with 3 bearings on that is held on by a circlip, remove the clip and you should be able to pull/tap the joint off. (pay attention to the order the washers etc are in). Remove the boot and reassembly is the reverse. 
Oh be careful of the bearings they can full apart ( I normally stick a rubber glove or wrap tape over them)

Hope that helps (as long as I've got the correct type joint). If not ignore everything I've said.
Title: Re: How to. Help please:)
Post by: Webby the Bear on 30 March 2016, 17:51:35
Right then ladies. First off I got the wrong car lol it was an 05 corsa, not a focus.

It was a piece of pish. Drive shaft out. The inner was part of the shaft and wouldn't come off. As the boot was NOT a stretchy type I had to take outer joint off by spreading the circlip and knocking it off. New boots on and bands on. Job done. Thanks for all your input though guys 😀👍
Title: Re: How to. Help please:)
Post by: Andy B on 30 March 2016, 18:57:41
....

It was a piece of pish.  ....

As is often the case .... by the time it's been discussed to death on a forum, the job could have been done in half the time!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: How to. Help please:)
Post by: Webby the Bear on 30 March 2016, 21:46:35
Lol that's very true, Andy. And I think doing this 'professionally' I've learned to be able to work things out on the fly without having to have done the exact same job previously.

Though having said that I like to be armed with info cos that's just the way I am.
Title: Re: How to. Help please:)
Post by: aaronjb on 31 March 2016, 11:55:28
thats what we use on daily bases https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEKY0uFlBpc

Bet it's still never quite as easy (or clean) as the demonstration video, though! ;D
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Post by: Terbs on 01 April 2016, 12:16:34
thats what we use on daily bases https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEKY0uFlBpc

Bet it's still never quite as easy (or clean) as the demonstration video, though! ;D

Exactly my thoughts, Aaron....It looks so easy when its not on the car or covered with rust and crap. I had a book once called AA Book of the car (70's) showed you how to do everything. But all jobs showed a brand new car, on ramps ,etc. Totally different to reality :(
Title: Re: How to. Help please:)
Post by: BazaJT on 01 April 2016, 19:03:42
Similar with Haynes where they say undo nut and withdraw bolt or something along those lines,quite overlooking the possibility that some heavy handed monkey has rounded the nut off in the past and the bolt is seized solid in whatever it happens to pass through.
Title: Re: How to. Help please:)
Post by: Tick Tock on 01 April 2016, 19:06:37
Similar with Haynes where they say undo nut and withdraw bolt or something along those lines,quite overlooking the possibility that some heavy handed monkey has rounded the nut off in the past and the bolt is seized solid in whatever it happens to pass through.

..... and if only I'd had a quid every time I come across that!!!!  :(
Title: Re: How to. Help please:)
Post by: Webby the Bear on 01 April 2016, 19:12:33
Just watched the vid. Sorry must've missed that.

I have seen that tool before but we don't have one. Only trouble is it has to be a stretchy type boot (we normally get 'shaftech' stretchy boots). But sometimes they're not available.

Did another cv boot today. Outer one this time on a golf. Stretched it over using the cone. Took a couple of attempts. I am a bit of a pussy though. And omg I'm covered in cv grease. And this shit don't come off! Lol