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Title: VW reach a deal on US rigged cars
Post by: Varche on 21 April 2016, 17:09:08
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36103903

US district court Judge Charles Breyer said the settlement was expected to include a buyback offer for nearly 500,000 2.0-litre vehicles.

I wonder if the rest of the world will be similarly resolved?

More importantly what happens to the bought back vehicles? Sold to third world countries.....
Title: Re: VW reach a deal on US rigged cars
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 22 April 2016, 13:26:25
Or crushed, maybe? That'll be the green answer.


Honestly, the chronic irony of all of this is people have bought a car, on the understanding of its 'green' credentials. They can stare smugly at their neighbors that their car is nicer to dolphins than yours. They have been lied to, which is wrong, so they have the offer to sell back their car to VW, presumably replaced with a different new car, be it a VW or any other from another manufacturer. Which has to be built in a factory.

Title: Re: VW reach a deal on US rigged cars
Post by: Kevin Wood on 22 April 2016, 14:14:26
It's not as if any tractors appear to have been meeting the emissions limits in real-world usage, so more fool the tree huggers for believing the figures in the first place. ;D

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/vehicle-emissions-testing-programme-conclusions (https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/vehicle-emissions-testing-programme-conclusions)
Title: Re: VW reach a deal on US rigged cars
Post by: STEMO on 22 April 2016, 14:58:37
It's not as if any tractors appear to have been meeting the emissions limits in real-world usage, so more fool the tree huggers for believing the figures in the first place. ;D

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/vehicle-emissions-testing-programme-conclusions (https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/vehicle-emissions-testing-programme-conclusions)
I heard a random figure of up to 40X what the lab tests showed.

Osbourne will be all over this in his next budget, wifey's zero tax soot chucker will probably rise to about a grand.  ;D
Title: Re: VW reach a deal on US rigged cars
Post by: Varche on 22 April 2016, 16:03:38
Surely they cannot be going to crush them? Nothing Green in that.

Title: Re: VW reach a deal on US rigged cars
Post by: Broomies Mate on 22 April 2016, 18:39:18
Adjust the ECU to limit the power to around half and that should keep them within limits.

Dirty, stinking, rather horrible piles of shite.
Title: Re: VW reach a deal on US rigged cars
Post by: Andy H on 22 April 2016, 18:40:23
They can be made 'green' - the proof is in the test results.  The problem is that when they are 'green' they are less powerful/economical/pleasant to drive.

Any solution will probably include a legally enforced remap making the cars 'green' but it won't be the car the owner thought they were buying hence the buy-back option.
Title: Re: VW reach a deal on US rigged cars
Post by: Kevin Wood on 23 April 2016, 00:32:50
They can be made 'green' - the proof is in the test results.  The problem is that when they are 'green' they are less powerful/economical/pleasant to drive.

Any solution will probably include a legally enforced remap making the cars 'green' but it won't be the car the owner thought they were buying hence the buy-back option.

Yep, you'd be a mug to accept any "fix" because the performance is only going to go one way.
Title: Re: VW reach a deal on US rigged cars
Post by: BazaJT on 23 April 2016, 14:49:39
Apparently it's being said that at present this is for America only,everyone else can go whistle.But they've revised their estimated costs to 16.5bn :o