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Title: Heat Shield around main cat.
Post by: tunnie on 09 June 2016, 19:56:34
The heat shield around the main cat on the 2.2 is loose, it's flapping about a fair bit.

Option A: Was thinking self tappers through the shield into the body? Anything to watch out for? Current bolt area is badly rusted, so would need to target fresh metal.

Option B: Remove heat shield completely, any side affects?

Thoughts?  :y
Title: Re: Heat Shield around main cat.
Post by: omegod on 09 June 2016, 20:00:34
Pretty sure I binned mine without any ill effects, you could whack a steel belt type thing round it to keep it on 
Title: Re: Heat Shield around main cat.
Post by: tunnie on 09 June 2016, 20:04:45
Sorry should clarify, it's the heat shield attached to the body of the car. Or partially in my case  ;D
Title: Re: Heat Shield around main cat.
Post by: Nick W on 10 June 2016, 00:19:37
The heat shield around the main cat on the 2.2 is loose, it's flapping about a fair bit.

Option A: Was thinking self tappers through the shield into the body? Anything to watch out for? Current bolt area is badly rusted, so would need to target fresh metal.

Option B: Remove heat shield completely, any side affects?

Thoughts?  :y


Option A: ensure that the screw doesn't pull the carpet threads. And they don't work very well.


Option B: not that I've found. Quick, easy and effective.
Title: Re: Heat Shield around main cat.
Post by: Lazydocker on 10 June 2016, 07:32:25
The heat shield around the main cat on the 2.2 is loose, it's flapping about a fair bit.

Option A: Was thinking self tappers through the shield into the body? Anything to watch out for? Current bolt area is badly rusted, so would need to target fresh metal.

Option B: Remove heat shield completely, any side affects?

Thoughts?  :y


Option A: ensure that the screw doesn't pull the carpet threads. And they don't work very well.


Option B: not that I've found. Quick, easy and effective.

Seconded... Pull it off
Title: Re: Heat Shield around main cat.
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 10 June 2016, 09:11:35
It'll fix itself..... eventually!  :D
Title: Re: Heat Shield around main cat.
Post by: Jimbob on 10 June 2016, 09:13:54
Ive used some of that epoxy metal putty stuff to basically bond an upside down bolt to where the old studs were, then slide heatshield up, and nut to hold in place.
Not much stress involved, so will do the job.  bit of a bodge but will work well enough
Title: Re: Heat Shield around main cat.
Post by: tunnie on 10 June 2016, 13:11:32
The heat shield around the main cat on the 2.2 is loose, it's flapping about a fair bit.

Option A: Was thinking self tappers through the shield into the body? Anything to watch out for? Current bolt area is badly rusted, so would need to target fresh metal.

Option B: Remove heat shield completely, any side affects?

Thoughts?  :y


Option A: ensure that the screw doesn't pull the carpet threads. And they don't work very well.


Option B: not that I've found. Quick, easy and effective.

Seconded... Pull it off

I'm liking that idea  :D

It'll fix itself..... eventually!  :D

By falling off?  ;D

Ive used some of that epoxy metal putty stuff to basically bond an upside down bolt to where the old studs were, then slide heatshield up, and nut to hold in place.
Not much stress involved, so will do the job.  bit of a bodge but will work well enough

Great suggestion, never thought of that. I might have a dig around to see what random bolts I have, see if I have anything suitable.

If not, I'll pull it off as being 2.2 it generates a lot less heat than the V6.
Title: Re: Heat Shield around main cat.
Post by: tunnie on 10 June 2016, 13:12:16
Out of interest Jimbob, which epoxy stuff did you use?
Title: Re: Heat Shield around main cat.
Post by: Jimbob on 10 June 2016, 14:12:54
Out of interest Jimbob, which epoxy stuff did you use?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/201041218566?lpid=122&chn=ps&googleloc=9046493&poi=&campaignid=207297426&device=c&adgroupid=13585920426&rlsatarget=pla-156022130226&adtype=pla&crdt=0

been handy for all sorts of jobs.  Seems good stuff.

Make a blob of the stuff, mould it round the bolt head, mould both bits to underside of car.  Stuck fine.
Title: Re: Heat Shield around main cat.
Post by: 05omegav6 on 10 June 2016, 14:22:28
Not to be a grump, but epoxy softens with heat ::)

Either fix it properly, (but clear the floor inside first as two bloody great cable trays connect the two a pillars across the floor...)

Or remove it :y

Leaving it is a non option... over time you'll forget, and one day it will fall off... the car behind probably won't appreciate it when it does :-X
Title: Re: Heat Shield around main cat.
Post by: Entwood on 10 June 2016, 14:24:13
Out of interest Jimbob, which epoxy stuff did you use?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/201041218566?lpid=122&chn=ps&googleloc=9046493&poi=&campaignid=207297426&device=c&adgroupid=13585920426&rlsatarget=pla-156022130226&adtype=pla&crdt=0

been handy for all sorts of jobs.  Seems good stuff.

Make a blob of the stuff, mould it round the bolt head, mould both bits to underside of car.  Stuck fine.

'Tis useful stuff indeed .. I get mine from this link ... (nearly half your links price !)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Abro-Steel-QuickSteel-Reinforced-Epoxy-Metal-Instant-Repair-Putty-Weld-2OZ-AS224-/131724543804

and find one of their suggestions "interesting" although I've not yet tried it ...

"To re-tap a worn thread, fill the hole with Abro Steel, treat the bolt or screw with WD40 and force it into the putty, wait 2-3 minutes and give the screw a half turn. Once the Abro Steel has hardened you can remove the screw to find a new thread."

:)

Edit ... following HKT's post may I add this from the tech spec ??

"Abro Steel is resistant to temperatures between -70ºC and +260ºC and, once cured, is impervious to most acids and solvents (including petrol and diesel). "

I've never had it soften on anything I've mended with it .. including the exhaust on the mower !!

Title: Re: Heat Shield around main cat.
Post by: tigers_gonads on 10 June 2016, 14:36:54
Out of interest Jimbob, which epoxy stuff did you use?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/201041218566?lpid=122&chn=ps&googleloc=9046493&poi=&campaignid=207297426&device=c&adgroupid=13585920426&rlsatarget=pla-156022130226&adtype=pla&crdt=0

been handy for all sorts of jobs.  Seems good stuff.

Make a blob of the stuff, mould it round the bolt head, mould both bits to underside of car.  Stuck fine.

'Tis useful stuff indeed .. I get mine from this link ... (nearly half your links price !)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Abro-Steel-QuickSteel-Reinforced-Epoxy-Metal-Instant-Repair-Putty-Weld-2OZ-AS224-/131724543804

and find one of their suggestions "interesting" although I've not yet tried it ...

"To re-tap a worn thread, fill the hole with Abro Steel, treat the bolt or screw with WD40 and force it into the putty, wait 2-3 minutes and give the screw a half turn. Once the Abro Steel has hardened you can remove the screw to find a new thread."

:)

Edit ... following HKT's post may I add this from the tech spec ??

"Abro Steel is resistant to temperatures between -70ºC and +260ºC and, once cured, is impervious to most acids and solvents (including petrol and diesel). "

I've never had it soften on anything I've mended with it .. including the exhaust on the mower !!


Kin ell, Double Bond reborn   :y

Used to use that stuff for allsorts of things when at Binbrook  ;)
In fact, along with Araldite, that was what held Lightnings together in the last few years of service  :D
Title: Re: Heat Shield around main cat.
Post by: Entwood on 10 June 2016, 14:39:35
Out of interest Jimbob, which epoxy stuff did you use?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/201041218566?lpid=122&chn=ps&googleloc=9046493&poi=&campaignid=207297426&device=c&adgroupid=13585920426&rlsatarget=pla-156022130226&adtype=pla&crdt=0

been handy for all sorts of jobs.  Seems good stuff.

Make a blob of the stuff, mould it round the bolt head, mould both bits to underside of car.  Stuck fine.

'Tis useful stuff indeed .. I get mine from this link ... (nearly half your links price !)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Abro-Steel-QuickSteel-Reinforced-Epoxy-Metal-Instant-Repair-Putty-Weld-2OZ-AS224-/131724543804

and find one of their suggestions "interesting" although I've not yet tried it ...

"To re-tap a worn thread, fill the hole with Abro Steel, treat the bolt or screw with WD40 and force it into the putty, wait 2-3 minutes and give the screw a half turn. Once the Abro Steel has hardened you can remove the screw to find a new thread."

:)

Edit ... following HKT's post may I add this from the tech spec ??

"Abro Steel is resistant to temperatures between -70ºC and +260ºC and, once cured, is impervious to most acids and solvents (including petrol and diesel). "

I've never had it soften on anything I've mended with it .. including the exhaust on the mower !!


Kin ell, Double Bond reborn   :y

Used to use that stuff for allsorts of things when at Binbrook  ;)
In fact, along with Araldite, that was what held Lightnings together in the last few years of service  :D

You forgot to mention speedtape .....  :)  .. Hercules fleet would have ceased to function without it !!
Title: Re: Heat Shield around main cat.
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 10 June 2016, 14:40:19
Yep, epoxy does soften with heat but, different epoxy will tolerate different levels of heat and that area won't see high levels so all good   :y
Title: Re: Heat Shield around main cat.
Post by: tigers_gonads on 10 June 2016, 15:17:06
Out of interest Jimbob, which epoxy stuff did you use?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/201041218566?lpid=122&chn=ps&googleloc=9046493&poi=&campaignid=207297426&device=c&adgroupid=13585920426&rlsatarget=pla-156022130226&adtype=pla&crdt=0

been handy for all sorts of jobs.  Seems good stuff.

Make a blob of the stuff, mould it round the bolt head, mould both bits to underside of car.  Stuck fine.

'Tis useful stuff indeed .. I get mine from this link ... (nearly half your links price !)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Abro-Steel-QuickSteel-Reinforced-Epoxy-Metal-Instant-Repair-Putty-Weld-2OZ-AS224-/131724543804

and find one of their suggestions "interesting" although I've not yet tried it ...

"To re-tap a worn thread, fill the hole with Abro Steel, treat the bolt or screw with WD40 and force it into the putty, wait 2-3 minutes and give the screw a half turn. Once the Abro Steel has hardened you can remove the screw to find a new thread."

:)

Edit ... following HKT's post may I add this from the tech spec ??

"Abro Steel is resistant to temperatures between -70ºC and +260ºC and, once cured, is impervious to most acids and solvents (including petrol and diesel). "

I've never had it soften on anything I've mended with it .. including the exhaust on the mower !!


Kin ell, Double Bond reborn   :y

Used to use that stuff for allsorts of things when at Binbrook  ;)
In fact, along with Araldite, that was what held Lightnings together in the last few years of service  :D

You forgot to mention speedtape .....  :)  .. Hercules fleet would have ceased to function without it !!



Are yes, the main component of every BDR kit  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Heat Shield around main cat.
Post by: tunnie on 10 June 2016, 16:33:48
Thanks for the replies, that epoxy looks useful to have in the garage anyway, so will have a go with that. (assuming I can find some suitable bolts)
Title: Re: Heat Shield around main cat.
Post by: tunnie on 10 June 2016, 16:35:14
Out of interest Jimbob, which epoxy stuff did you use?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/201041218566?lpid=122&chn=ps&googleloc=9046493&poi=&campaignid=207297426&device=c&adgroupid=13585920426&rlsatarget=pla-156022130226&adtype=pla&crdt=0

been handy for all sorts of jobs.  Seems good stuff.

Make a blob of the stuff, mould it round the bolt head, mould both bits to underside of car.  Stuck fine.

/Stupid Question mode

The underside has that 'rubber' effect underneath, did you mold to this or strip it back to bare metal?

\Stupid Question Mode.
Title: Re: Heat Shield around main cat.
Post by: Jimbob on 10 June 2016, 18:21:59
Out of interest Jimbob, which epoxy stuff did you use?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/201041218566?lpid=122&chn=ps&googleloc=9046493&poi=&campaignid=207297426&device=c&adgroupid=13585920426&rlsatarget=pla-156022130226&adtype=pla&crdt=0

been handy for all sorts of jobs.  Seems good stuff.

Make a blob of the stuff, mould it round the bolt head, mould both bits to underside of car.  Stuck fine.

/Stupid Question mode

The underside has that 'rubber' effect underneath, did you mold to this or strip it back to bare metal?

\Stupid Question Mode.

I found it gripped the rubberry stuff fine :y
Title: Re: Heat Shield around main cat.
Post by: 05omegav6 on 10 June 2016, 18:23:25
 :D bare /painted metal every time :y

Underseal won't take epoxy... well it will, but you'll have a bare patch when it falls off ;D