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Title: So...Boris has decided not to run
Post by: STEMO on 30 June 2016, 12:22:33
for the leadership of the conservative party. What a shithouse. Light the blue touchpaper and retire.
Title: Re: So...Boris has decided not to run
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 30 June 2016, 12:25:12
for the leadership of the conservative party. What a shithouse. Light the blue touchpaper and retire.

That nice Mr Gove has plunged a dagger in his back.
Title: Re: So...Boris has decided not to run
Post by: STEMO on 30 June 2016, 12:29:00
for the leadership of the conservative party. What a shithouse. Light the blue touchpaper and retire.

That nice Mr Gove has plunged a dagger in his back.
And why would that make difference? Boris should have told the little squirt to get stuffed and see who succeeded at the ballot.
Title: Re: So...Boris has decided not to run
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 30 June 2016, 12:37:18
for the leadership of the conservative party. What a shithouse. Light the blue touchpaper and retire.

That nice Mr Gove has plunged a dagger in his back.
And why would that make difference? Boris should have told the little squirt to get stuffed and see who succeeded at the ballot.

You'll need to ask Boris. It is strange he has quit so easily though. :-\

Prime Minister Gove.......Hmm not sure about that. :-\
Title: Re: So...Boris has decided not to run
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 30 June 2016, 12:42:12
I think the problem is that world leaders would struggle to take Boris seriously.

I have a vision of Boris turning up with clown shoes, a loud check suit, and and a squirting flower in his lapel.

......not to mention the comedy buzzer in the palm of his hand.

Great fun but........ :-\
Title: Re: So...Boris has decided not to run
Post by: zirk on 30 June 2016, 12:44:46

You'll need to ask Boris. It is strange he has quit so easily though. :-\

By stepping to one side at this stage in the game means he can probably still further he's career in Politics, or by talking the bull by the horns now and possible messing up or not getting his deal from EU, game over.
Title: Re: So...Boris has decided not to run
Post by: Lazydocker on 30 June 2016, 12:52:07

You'll need to ask Boris. It is strange he has quit so easily though. :-\

By stepping to one side at this stage in the game means he can probably still further he's career in Politics, or by talking the bull by the horns now and possible messing up or not getting his deal from EU, game over.

Whoever takes over will end their political career... If they don't initiate article 50 then they will be voted out by the leave team. If they do then the remain lot will vote against.

That's a simplified version but... ::)
Title: Re: So...Boris has decided not to run
Post by: zirk on 30 June 2016, 12:58:05

You'll need to ask Boris. It is strange he has quit so easily though. :-\

By stepping to one side at this stage in the game means he can probably still further he's career in Politics, or by talking the bull by the horns now and possible messing up or not getting his deal from EU, game over.

Whoever takes over will end their political career... If they don't initiate article 50 then they will be voted out by the leave team. If they do then the remain lot will vote against.

That's a simplified version but... ::)
The Calm Storm before the Storm Hurricane.
Title: Re: So...Boris has decided not to run
Post by: Nick W on 30 June 2016, 13:27:28

You'll need to ask Boris. It is strange he has quit so easily though. :-\

By stepping to one side at this stage in the game means he can probably still further he's career in Politics, or by talking the bull by the horns now and possible messing up or not getting his deal from EU, game over.

Whoever takes over will end their political career... If they don't initiate article 50 then they will be voted out by the leave team. If they do then the remain lot will vote against.

That's a simplified version but... ::)


Exactly, and anyone who has watched Boris in action should be aware that he has no skills to even pretend to do the job. Like him or loathe him, it is impossible to deny that he is a very capable politician, but his value to the Conservative party has always been as a rabble rouser. My prediction that he is elevated to the House of Lords soon still stands.




Title: Re: So...Boris has decided not to run
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 30 June 2016, 13:34:15
I suspect Boris, being the canny man he is (though pretends not to be) he may reappear next time round. As said, whoever takes over will be the man in charge of the battered, disabled ship, limping to safer waters. All the graft will be done by Macaroon's successor, who will eventually be booted out for 'ruining' the country, leaving someone else to take the repaired and repainted ship  to triumph...ish.

In a way Churchill immediately post-war was wrong, but once the dust had settled, a certain amount of nostalgia had set in, he sat well in the 50s when he returned as PM.


Note: I am in NO way comparing Churchill to Boris, though!  ;)
Title: Re: So...Boris has decided not to run
Post by: tunnie on 30 June 2016, 13:37:31

You'll need to ask Boris. It is strange he has quit so easily though. :-\

By stepping to one side at this stage in the game means he can probably still further he's career in Politics, or by talking the bull by the horns now and possible messing up or not getting his deal from EU, game over.

Whoever takes over will end their political career... If they don't initiate article 50 then they will be voted out by the leave team. If they do then the remain lot will vote against.

That's a simplified version but... ::)


Exactly, and anyone who has watched Boris in action should be aware that he has no skills to even pretend to do the job. Like him or loathe him, it is impossible to deny that he is a very capable politician, but his value to the Conservative party has always been as a rabble rouser. My prediction that he is elevated to the House of Lords soon still stands.

Indeed, I also think this is big win for the tories. Labour is continuing to tear itself inside out, more so than anyone expected I think. If they can just get on with the job, do this without a massive and divisive leadership battle, they will emerge in a relativity good place.

Perhaps a deal with May and Gove with May being PM and Gove leading Brexit process, I would not be surprised at that.

Then potentially Clinton in the White House? A May/Clinton relationship could be good for UK/US relations, far better than Trump.

I suspect Boris, being the canny man he is (though pretends not to be) he may reappear next time round. As said, whoever takes over will be the man in charge of the battered, disabled ship, limping to safer waters. All the graft will be done by Macaroon's successor, who will eventually be booted out for 'ruining' the country, leaving someone else to take the repaired and repainted ship  to triumph...ish.

In a way Churchill immediately post-war was wrong, but once the dust had settled, a certain amount of nostalgia had set in, he sat well in the 50s when he returned as PM.


Note: I am in NO way comparing Churchill to Boris, though!  ;)

I'd put Money on it being a women.

May the new Thatcher?  ::)
Title: Re: So...Boris has decided not to run
Post by: biggriffin on 30 June 2016, 13:42:03
 may,, clintion,, merkal, not a drop of eye candy among them.

A special relationship. I have a video in mind  ;D
Title: Re: So...Boris has decided not to run
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 30 June 2016, 13:49:53
may,, clintion,, merkal, not a drop of eye candy among them.

A special relationship. I have a video in mind  ;D

Agreed.

I do have a problem with a woman taking hold of the reins.

It is not the natural order of things.
Title: Re: So...Boris has decided not to run
Post by: Entwood on 30 June 2016, 13:54:11
may,, clintion,, merkal, not a drop of eye candy among them.

A special relationship. I have a video in mind  ;D

Agreed.

I do have a problem with a woman taking hold of the reins.

It is not the natural order of things.

Why not ?? The blokes haven't actually done a good job have they ??
Title: Re: So...Boris has decided not to run
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 30 June 2016, 14:23:56
may,, clintion,, merkal, not a drop of eye candy among them.

A special relationship. I have a video in mind  ;D

Agreed.

I do have a problem with a woman taking hold of the reins.

It is not the natural order of things.

Why not ?? The blokes haven't actually done a good job have they ??

It's just the way was I brought up.

Women are superior at cooking and cleaning. Men are better at running the world.

Everyone should do what they are best at. :)
Title: Re: So...Boris has decided not to run
Post by: zirk on 30 June 2016, 14:39:25
Jeremy Clarkson for PM, I mean how hard can it be !!
Title: Re: So...Boris has decided not to run
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 30 June 2016, 14:52:50
Jeremy Clarkson for PM, I mean how hard can it be !!

I fear for the people of the U.S.

They have a choice between Bill Clinton's wife or Donald Trump. :-X
Title: Re: So...Boris has decided not to run
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 30 June 2016, 15:19:08
Jeremy Clarkson for PM, I mean how hard can it be !!

I fear for the people of the U.S.

They have a choice between Bill Clinton's wife or Donald Trump. :-X
You jest, but it is a one horse race... traditional and powerful matriarchs, especially in the south, will be voting for Trump...

Why? Because Hilary as President utterly redifines the role of women in society. Palin only got as close as she did because she was a gun toting loon... Hilary, as wife of a Southerner, should be keeping house rather than office, and her peers quietly hate her for it.

The American people would rather have a first generation, coloured immigrant than a women in the White House.

Trump will be the next President.
Title: Re: So...Boris has decided not to run
Post by: Kevin Wood on 30 June 2016, 15:54:46
The American people would rather have a bigoted onanist than a woman in the White House.
Fixed that for you. :y
Title: Re: So...Boris has decided not to run
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 30 June 2016, 16:39:30
The American people would rather have a bigoted onanist than a woman in the White House.
Fixed that for you. :y
Obama wasn't that bad...
Title: Re: So...Boris has decided not to run
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 30 June 2016, 21:26:23
Given how sick Boris looked in the aftermath of the referendum his plan has gone wrong somewhat.  He planned to lose the referendum by a narrow margin, hoping in the process to endear himself to the Eurosceptics in the Tory Party.  When Cameron resigned in 2018/9 he would have then gone for the leadership with solid Eurosceptic credentials.  ;)

I like Boris, but I suspect we've had a lucky miss having him as PM.  :y

Title: Re: So...Boris has decided not to run
Post by: Kevin Wood on 30 June 2016, 21:29:02
The American people would rather have a bigoted onanist than a woman in the White House.
Fixed that for you. :y
Obama wasn't that bad...

Oh.. Yeah, I meant Trump. As you were. :-[
Title: Re: So...Boris has decided not to run
Post by: Rods2 on 30 June 2016, 21:51:25
To survive as PM they will need swift successful Brexit negotiations, quickly negotiating 11 bilateral trade agreements where we have been contacted by 11 countries already, which range from huge to minnows. Continue to make the UK attractive for overseas investment, our central position (GMT means ROW 12 hours either side with majority within 8 hours), the use of the English language, low taxes including 17% corporation tax by 2020 and good industrial relations. I think you will find the doomungers are wrong as investment and growth accelerate as a result of us being outside of the over-regulated EU zone. Our exports are growing the fastest and we run a trade surplus with the rest of the world.

I was reading today a global challenges, over the next 50 years, article written a couple of weeks before the Brexit vote by a senior research fellow at an Austrian institution. It centred on how the growth of China is going to with the US make it a bi-polar world, how the USD is likely to be challenged by a second reserve currency. How the continued rise of China, Asia, with the BRICS will create new challenges for the US. Her footnote on the EU was interesting. This will continue to be a declining inward looking backwater, where inter-country arguments are more important than engaging with the rest of the world.

We will look back on this like our early lead in leaving the Gold Standard in 1931 which meant we avoided the worst of the 1930's depression compared with the US and France.
Title: Re: So...Boris has decided not to run
Post by: Andy H on 30 June 2016, 22:45:29
may,, clintion,, merkal, not a drop of eye candy among them.

A special relationship. I have a video in mind  ;D
I can't imagine what you have in mind  :-\, oh hang on I think I have it now  :D

OK, thats enough now  :o Mind-bleach! I need Mind-bleach!
Title: Re: So...Boris has decided not to run
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 01 July 2016, 11:57:13
To survive as PM they will need swift successful Brexit negotiations, quickly negotiating 11 bilateral trade agreements where we have been contacted by 11 countries already, which range from huge to minnows. Continue to make the UK attractive for overseas investment, our central position (GMT means ROW 12 hours either side with majority within 8 hours), the use of the English language, low taxes including 17% corporation tax by 2020 and good industrial relations. I think you will find the doomungers are wrong as investment and growth accelerate as a result of us being outside of the over-regulated EU zone. Our exports are growing the fastest and we run a trade surplus with the rest of the world.

I was reading today a global challenges, over the next 50 years, article written a couple of weeks before the Brexit vote by a senior research fellow at an Austrian institution. It centred on how the growth of China is going to with the US make it a bi-polar world, how the USD is likely to be challenged by a second reserve currency. How the continued rise of China, Asia, with the BRICS will create new challenges for the US. Her footnote on the EU was interesting. This will continue to be a declining inward looking backwater, where inter-country arguments are more important than engaging with the rest of the world.

We will look back on this like our early lead in leaving the Gold Standard in 1931 which meant we avoided the worst of the 1930's depression compared with the US and France.


I assume you're kidding on this point, Mr Rods.

We had 3.3 million unemployed men in the early thirties when the population was much less than it is now.

.......and what of the Jarrow March in 1936?.