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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: peter the butcher on 25 July 2016, 13:50:50
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OK, so had new trackrods and drop links done, all went well, but now there is a bearing going at the rear, its really PI***** me off now, so it has to be done. It will be a garage job, as there Is no way I am capable with my health, and thats not an option. can anyone supply a link to recommended new one, and if its a pattern part, its ok, as am sure the bits that the garage fitted last month were not genuine parts, as its sas, andrew page and europarts they use. Also a "ball park" fitting figure for said work, did not want to pay daft money, as cars not worth it lol
Thanks in advance :y
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OK, so had new trackrods and drop links done, all went well, but now there is a bearing going at the rear, its really PI***** me off now, so it has to be done. It will be a garage job, as there Is no way I am capable with my health, and thats not an option. can anyone supply a link to recommended new one, and if its a pattern part, its ok, as am sure the bits that the garage fitted last month were not genuine parts, as its sas, andrew page and europarts they use. Also a "ball park" fitting figure for said work, did not want to pay daft money, as cars not worth it lol
Thanks in advance :y
Last time I looked, a decent branded(SKF I think) bearing was about £40 from Eurocarparts; my car has a cheaper one fitted.
This isn't a difficult job but many people, including garages, make it so. A bill for 2hours work would be reasonable, much more than that is taking the piss. Some easily improvised tooling makes the job much easier, which something traditional mechanics just handle, many modern technicians seem to struggle.
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:y thanks Nick
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When mine was done by a fellow OOFer down in Trowbridge it was 40 minutes from start to finish ... he did have some very "interesting" home made tools just for the job... :) that 40 minutes did include 5-6 minutes making up a piece on a lathe that he couldn't find in his box .... very impressive. 'Tis a real shame he no longer frequents the forum, he was a major asset and a REALLY nice bloke as well.
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When mine was done by a fellow OOFer down in Trowbridge it was 40 minutes from start to finish ... he did have some very "interesting" home made tools just for the job... :) that 40 minutes did include 5-6 minutes making up a piece on a lathe that he couldn't find in his box .... very impressive. 'Tis a real shame he no longer frequents the forum, he was a major asset and a REALLY nice bloke as well.
Agreed, is a real shame
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When mine was done by a fellow OOFer down in Trowbridge it was 40 minutes from start to finish ... he did have some very "interesting" home made tools just for the job... :) that 40 minutes did include 5-6 minutes making up a piece on a lathe that he couldn't find in his box .... very impressive. 'Tis a real shame he no longer frequents the forum, he was a major asset and a REALLY nice bloke as well.
Agreed, is a real shame
Yup .. still a member but not been here since October 2015 ... :(
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IF, and its a big IF, a member of this forum offers their services, (money of course lol) I would travel, but just in Yorkshire or maybe Lincolnshire :D
any takers? PM me
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If you were to trael a bit further down to Huntingdon, Serek would be able to sort you out. A very nice bloke, top work been done for many members
Keith ABS
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Daz in Stoke may be able to help ??
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sadly both venues are out :( as well over 2 hours away
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sadly both venues are out :( as well over 2 hours away
I would sooner travel 2 hrs away to get a job done properly than go round the corner and get a bodge job :y
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sadly both venues are out :( as well over 2 hours away
It's not rocket science. Any capable mechanic should be able to do it in a couple of hours.
I've done three in the street!
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sadly both venues are out :( as well over 2 hours away
It's not rocket science. Any capable mechanic should be able to do it in a couple of hours.
I've done three in the street!
take it a puller/press is needed along with that metal plate ?.. what else do you need to buy Nick ?
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=130619.0
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take it a puller/press is needed along with that metal plate ?.. what else do you need to buy Nick ?
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=130619.0 (http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=130619.0)
You'll need ordinary hand tools, including Allen and Torx bits.
There are three mildly tricky aspects:
Undoing the hub nut: it's tightened to 300Nm and is under the car.
Extracting the hub from the bearing:the worst part of the job, I made a tool that bolts on the brake backplate and pushes the hub out
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/e9j714mi95s81o4/HubExtractor%20%28360x640%29.jpg?dl=1)
Refitting the hub: I pull it through the bearing using the hub nut with a couple of spacers as packers.
Removing the bearing is easy with normal FWD type bearing tools:
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/9qkv2q354qdmv7d/BearingPullerSet%20%281%29.jpg?dl=1)
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as an update to this, took car to a very competent garage, they did my MOT etc, and a grease monkey had it up on the ramps, and seemed to be making a "mountain out of a molehill", the resulting figure for this work was £234.90, will be glad to see the breakdown of charges >:(
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as an update to this, took car to a very competent garage, they did my MOT etc, and a grease monkey had it up on the ramps, and seemed to be making a "mountain out of a molehill", the resulting figure for this work was £234.90, will be glad to see the breakdown of charges >:(
For a £50 part(retail price remember) and a couple of hours work that doesn't seem unreasonable to me.
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Well £30 be for the bearing. Assume they fitted the correct one, as saloon and estate are different.
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Well £30 be for the bearing. Assume they fitted the correct one, as saloon and estate are different.
The unbranded one I fitted to my Estate 3(4?) years ago was £20 with a trade discount, but no garage is going to pass that price onto a customer.
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5 Series ones are £40-80 each... But that includes a new hub nut (fitted from outside) and the four bolts that hold the bearing on... ;D
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mine cost me £180 inc the bearing and that was mates rates, it's the VAT which is the killer.
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I don't do mate rates on this job :-[
Fag wheel bearing supply and fit £120 Inc vat each
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I don't do mate rates on this job :-[
Fag wheel bearing supply and fit £120 Inc vat each
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/70807181/Sold.png)
When do you wanna do it ? ;D ;D ;D ;D
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I don't do mate rates on this job :-[
Fag wheel bearing supply and fit £120 Inc vat each
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/70807181/Sold.png)
When do you wanna do it ? ;D ;D ;D ;D
Ring01480 700655 and book it in. :)
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ok, so had it done, what a cock up, first they billed me for extra hours, which I suppose may be fair enough, mine must have been a right barsteward, as when putting it all back, it was attacked with a hammer, and copious amounts of strength from 3 different people, trying to get a ball joint back in, the result was....... a broken ball joint, and car was kept in for another day, as it was fri @3pm, and they could not get one until sat morning.... £371 incl VAT, they dit NOT charge for the ball joint, just extra (again) labour :'(
and was going to get them to do a service and cam belt next month £1000 probably and something will go wrong, think I will get a push bike ;D
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ok, so had it done, what a cock up, first they billed me for extra hours, which I suppose may be fair enough, mine must have been a right barsteward, as when putting it all back, it was attacked with a hammer, and copious amounts of strength from 3 different people, trying to get a ball joint back in, the result was....... a broken ball joint, and car was kept in for another day, as it was fri @3pm, and they could not get one until sat morning.... £371 incl VAT, they dit NOT charge for the ball joint, just extra (again) labour :'(
and was going to get them to do a service and cam belt next month £1000 probably and something will go wrong, think I will get a push bike ;D
Be cheaper, to drive to serek, have a day in hoof'land, then drive home, still be quids in me thinks.
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Certainly time to find a new garage...???
Cambelt and full service will be £450 tops...
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You need to find a better garage.
I've done three wheel bearings, in the street, in about two hours(each)without ever using a hammer or undoing the balljoint. You should be aware that you car should have an alignment check as they will have altered the rear camber and toe settings.
This is not a difficult job, despite Vauxhall's efforts to make it so.
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Find another garage. Even if you ignore the fact that they have made an awkward job seem near impossible they then charged you labour to replace something they broke? :o :o ::) ::)
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You need to find a better garage.
I've done three wheel bearings, in the street, in about two hours(each)without ever using a hammer or undoing the balljoint. You should be aware that you car should have an alignment check as they will have altered the rear camber and toe settings.
This is not a difficult job, despite Vauxhall's efforts to make it so.
I am going to get alignment done next week. It drives fine now, beeter than before, obviously, BUT was coming back from Durham last night on th A1M, and gradually increased speed on a deserted motorway, vibrations started at 88, and backed of at a ton 10 ;D
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must have been a right barsteward, as when putting it all back, it was attacked with a hammer, and copious amounts of strength from 3 different people,
Hitting a bearing in with a hammer is never a good idea as it can damage the internals of the bearing. Keep your receipt some where safe just incase it fails in the near future.
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must have been a right barsteward, as when putting it all back, it was attacked with a hammer, and copious amounts of strength from 3 different people,
They obviously didn't leave the bearing in the freezer for 24hrs or clean the wishbone then.
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Have to say my mate tends to just fit a replacement wishbone in the event of rear bearing issues on Omegas. He breaks them fairly regular, so effectively gets rear wishbones for 'free', when you consider how relatively quickly a rear wishbone can be swapped, if you've got another sitting there, it's a bit of a no-brainer.
At least you're sorted, but yes, as above, keep the receipt!! :)