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Title: buying a car ?
Post by: powerslinky on 09 September 2016, 08:14:57
Yesterday  I went to view & hopefully buy an omega to replace the Jag .

 Car ticked all the boxes & after some basic checks on the usual omega faults , I wanted it. it was VGC.

Obviously cannot put all details in this post  but ,the seller asked me to meet him at what I thought was his address.  When we came to do the deal, name & address on the V5 did not match to where we were.

 Bear in mind we were in the street doing this deal,  he only pointed up to a flat above a shop saying thats where he lived . He was waiting in the street when I arrived. The address on the V5 was 100 miles away ::).   

I was still keen to have the car ,so, as  the seller told me he had the car from new , I asked him to show me some sort of ID with the same name as on the V5, he could not do this , saying his wallet was in his van at work ::)

So decided to walk away . . . gutted this morning as it was a good one & had real potential . . 

But my question is  . . . if I had brought it  & it was not his to sell  . . .where does

the buyer stand ?   :-\ :-\
 
Title: Re: buying a car ?
Post by: ronnyd on 09 September 2016, 08:24:38
You lose it, end of. Caveat Emptor as always.
Title: Re: buying a car ?
Post by: johnnydog on 09 September 2016, 10:05:03
Sounds like he is a 'part time trader' and it's a car he has picked up to sell on to make a profit.
They are usually not as familiar with the car as they should be if they had owned it from new, and a few questions should reveal if they know the car as well as an owner should do, i.e. operating the boot switch, or the climate control operation, or the location of the jack.
I'd have been tempted to make a note of the keeper details from the V5 and try to contact them.
I don't suppose they were queuing up to buy the car so a few hours investigation could get you a nice car without the heartache later.
An HPI check (at a cost unless you know a friendly car trader) should reveal if there has been recent HPI enquiries on the car, and if so, there's your answer - a dealer or auction wouldn't take on / sell the car without doing their own check on it, which is recorded against the car and can be seen on future checks. Plus you get some peace of mind.
Worth making a few enquiries before you give up on it - don't forget there are a lot of people out there trying to make few easy pounds on used cars and some think that they are untraceable if they do it from another address.
Tread carefully, but you could get yourself a good car with a few checks.
Title: Re: buying a car ?
Post by: powerslinky on 09 September 2016, 10:27:14
Sounds like he is a 'part time trader' and it's a car he has picked up to sell on to make a profit.
They are usually not as familiar with the car as they should be if they had owned it from new, and a few questions should reveal if they know the car as well as an owner should do, i.e. operating the boot switch, or the climate control operation, or the location of the jack.
I'd have been tempted to make a note of the keeper details from the V5 and try to contact them.
I don't suppose they were queuing up to buy the car so a few hours investigation could get you a nice car without the heartache later.
An HPI check (at a cost unless you know a friendly car trader) should reveal if there has been recent HPI enquiries on the car, and if so, there's your answer - a dealer or auction wouldn't take on / sell the car without doing their own check on it, which is recorded against the car and can be seen on future checks. Plus you get some peace of mind.
Worth making a few enquiries before you give up on it - don't forget there are a lot of people out there trying to make few easy pounds on used cars and some think that they are untraceable if they do it from another address.
Tread carefully, but you could get yourself a good car with a few checks.

Won't be going back on this one  . . .seller was bordering on getting abusive because I was being inquizitive asking questions .  Just seemed a "wrong 'un " to me. ;)

Edit:  just got SWMBO to ring on a different phone , seller says "Car is Sold"  ::) ::)
Title: Re: buying a car ?
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 09 September 2016, 10:37:01
It happens. You see something - very cheap/nice/rare etc.. but it just feels wrong. You turn it down... then wonder if you made a mistake. But it's a far better feeling than to have got it, and find you've bought a wrong 'un.  :)
Title: Re: buying a car ?
Post by: Nick W on 09 September 2016, 11:27:07
There will be others.
You were right to walk away as soon as you had doubts.
The same applies when sellers are stupid enough to get abusive or even rude to a possible buyer. They are not worth dealing with.
Title: Re: buying a car ?
Post by: 2boxerdogs on 09 September 2016, 12:00:58
You did the right thing to walk away, a real owner of a cherished vehicle would be pleased to answer your questions, I had a similar experience on e-bay saw a car that looked nice but the seller  blocked me from  making a bid, their reason "you asked too many questions" .My money so entitled to query before making a purchase. As it was a much better vehicle turned up (merc) so it went in my favour as i am sure it will for you, as forgetting nasty & abusive shows the"monkey" you were dealing with.
Title: Re: buying a car ?
Post by: omegod on 09 September 2016, 16:05:05
Some part time traders think there is a need to hide what they are which baffles me, I'm happy enough to look any car over and if all looks good I'll buy it. Did he have the full log book ? 
Title: Re: buying a car ?
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 09 September 2016, 16:12:40
mate of mine bought a banger because ot was cheap, sold it a month or two later, made a couple of quid, bought another one, stuck it out for sale. (so that's two cars in 1 year, in maybe a 6-8 month period) a neighbour came over the road and exclaimed "I know what you're doing and I think it's disgusting!"  :o :o

I think we'll both go to our graves not entirely sure what he was doing wrong! Was it making a profit from a car sale? Not paying tax on maybe £2-300sworth of earnings? The space took up on his drive? Owning two cars at once? No idea!  ???
Title: Re: buying a car ?
Post by: johnnydog on 09 September 2016, 16:48:28
Being pleasant and helpful in any car sale is a big 'yes' but being awkward and abusive a big 'no no'.
Had them like that myself, even at main dealers. Turned and walked away, their loss and invariably your gain.
Sounds like a bit of a jerk to me....
Title: Re: buying a car ?
Post by: dbug on 10 September 2016, 01:33:18
Lucky escape Al - replacing a Jag with an Omega - whatever next  ???
Title: Re: buying a car ?
Post by: powerslinky on 10 September 2016, 18:52:39
Lucky escape Al - replacing a Jag with an Omega - whatever next  ???

Yes but my Jag is not quite the refined beast that you have Colin   ::)

I just find it really difficult to get in & out of  . .high sill  . low seat  . .  low roof

Other than that I really did like it , sorted out most of the little niggles, apart from the bloody fobs  >:( >:(

But the Jag has to go  :( :(