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Title: Oil Extractor
Post by: tunnie on 12 September 2016, 11:24:21
Can those who use an oil extractor give any recommendations?

With my new VW TDi, as the oil filter is accessible from above, I plan on using one.

Would need to have 5-6L capacity I think.  :-\
Title: Re: Oil Extractor
Post by: Lazydocker on 12 September 2016, 11:37:36
They're all much the same. Pela are supposed to be the best but I've used Sealey ones to good effect... Just be sure to empty and clean it properly after use :y
Title: Re: Oil Extractor
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 12 September 2016, 11:38:00
There's a perfectly good drain plug underneath...

Use that :y
Title: Re: Oil Extractor
Post by: Nick W on 12 September 2016, 11:53:59
There's a perfectly good drain plug underneath...

Use that :y

Exactly. Unless you're using it all day, every day it isn't worth buying one. There's a different amount of faffing about using one, so you're unlikely to save any time for the couple of times a year that you will use it.
Title: Re: Oil Extractor
Post by: tunnie on 12 September 2016, 12:03:17
They're all much the same. Pela are supposed to be the best but I've used Sealey ones to good effect... Just be sure to empty and clean it properly after use :y

Thanks Will do  :y

This one gets good reviews, reasonable price too:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sealey-TP696-Vacuum-Extractor-Manual/dp/B000WZF74M/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1473677736&sr=8-2&keywords=oil+extractor+car+diy (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sealey-TP696-Vacuum-Extractor-Manual/dp/B000WZF74M/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1473677736&sr=8-2&keywords=oil+extractor+car+diy)

There's a perfectly good drain plug underneath...

Use that :y

I'm yet to jack up the CC  :-[

There is no decent jack point for a full fat 3ton jack I use, so looking at couple of options:

1) Use a pad adaptor that sits in the 'groove' like this:

http://www.purems.com/Products/PROTECHSIDEPADProtech-Side-Lift-Jack-Pad (http://www.purems.com/Products/PROTECHSIDEPADProtech-Side-Lift-Jack-Pad)

2) Look at better ramps, or look at reducing the incline of the current ones.


Finally 3rd option, which I like the "idea" of the most, but unsure if it's good way to do it. Is using jack pads... you use this kit:

https://www.ecstuning.com/Volkswagen-CC-FWD-2.0T/ES2583/ (https://www.ecstuning.com/Volkswagen-CC-FWD-2.0T/ES2583/)

Petrol listed, but all same. You basically remove a grommet under the chassis, these are pressed in and provide the jack point. My concern is that some say they are only for use on 4 post lifts, not for a one wheel/corner of car lifed.

YouTube Vid:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMS2fUDiWhU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMS2fUDiWhU)
Title: Re: Oil Extractor
Post by: tunnie on 12 September 2016, 12:04:03
There's a perfectly good drain plug underneath...

Use that :y

Exactly. Unless you're using it all day, every day it isn't worth buying one. There's a different amount of faffing about using one, so you're unlikely to save any time for the couple of times a year that you will use it.

See above, jacking the CC is not so simple.

I'm keen on the jack pad adaptors, but not sure if they are the best way.  :-\
Title: Re: Oil Extractor
Post by: Andy B on 12 September 2016, 13:12:02
Pela 6000 for me too  :y
Title: Re: Oil Extractor
Post by: Andy B on 12 September 2016, 13:13:04
There's a perfectly good drain plug underneath...

Use that :y

Exactly. Unless you're using it all day, every day it isn't worth buying one. There's a different amount of faffing about using one, so you're unlikely to save any time for the couple of times a year that you will use it.

Short of turning my Smart upside down I can't get the oil out ..... no drain plug  ;) Not sure how much faffing they involve ...... remove dipstick, stick tube in, pump ....... that's it.  ::)
Title: Re: Oil Extractor
Post by: tunnie on 12 September 2016, 13:21:40
Pela 6000 for me too  :y

This one?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Pela-6000-Oil-Pump-Extraction/dp/B002EJ2GUC (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Pela-6000-Oil-Pump-Extraction/dp/B002EJ2GUC)

Looks straight forward, pop feed pipe in, make sure it's at the bottom. Pump a few times and it's off, should remove all oil.  :)

Title: Re: Oil Extractor
Post by: Andy B on 12 September 2016, 13:22:39
Pela 6000 for me too  :y

This one?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Pela-6000-Oil-Pump-Extraction/dp/B002EJ2GUC (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Pela-6000-Oil-Pump-Extraction/dp/B002EJ2GUC)

Looks straight forward, pop feed pipe in, make sure it's at the bottom. Pump a few times and it's off, should remove all oil.  :)

The very one  :y
Title: Re: Oil Extractor
Post by: TheBoy on 12 September 2016, 13:29:45
If the sump is designed for a pump, I assume you can get most of it out.  If its not, would it leave a load of oil in?

Think I'd prefer to drain it properly if the manufacturer included such a feature...
Title: Re: Oil Extractor
Post by: Andy B on 12 September 2016, 13:35:47
....  If its not, would it leave a load of oil in?
 ....

Why?  ???
Title: Re: Oil Extractor
Post by: TheBoy on 12 September 2016, 13:38:42
....  If its not, would it leave a load of oil in?
 ....

Why?  ???
Would the pipe naturally sit right at the bottle? Not idea how rigid pipe is TBH.

Do cars designed for pumps ensure the pump can only ever end up in the lowest bit, possible even having a small well there?
Title: Re: Oil Extractor
Post by: tunnie on 12 September 2016, 13:41:59
Most guides for the TDi suggest a pump, looking at what they extract, looks like it's same amount from the sump drain.

In December with it freeing outside, this method does appeal. I could just about get nose of the car in the garage, meaning dry/warm for oil change.
Title: Re: Oil Extractor
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 12 September 2016, 13:56:47
A tool from Satans toolkit. I would never use one, unless the car didn't have a sump plug. And then I probably wouldn't buy the car in the first place.  :)
Title: Re: Oil Extractor
Post by: tunnie on 12 September 2016, 14:16:13
Ordered one Andy uses, as I want to get an oil change done soon ish. As I'm going to be putting some miles on it soon  :)
Title: Re: Oil Extractor
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 12 September 2016, 15:51:57
50p for a suitable block of 2"x4" :-X

You can even notch it if required...
Title: Re: Oil Extractor
Post by: tunnie on 12 September 2016, 15:52:57
50p for a suitable block of 2"x4" :-X

You can even notch it if required...

assume this is for other thread  :D
Title: Re: Oil Extractor
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 12 September 2016, 15:55:17
50p for a suitable block of 2"x4" :-X

You can even notch it if required...

assume this is also on the other thread  :D
Fixed for accuracy  :y
Title: Re: Oil Extractor
Post by: TheBoy on 12 September 2016, 16:09:06
In December with it freeing outside, this method does appeal. I could just about get nose of the car in the garage, meaning dry/warm for oil change.
So change the oil in the Autumn then.

If it has a drain plug, I'd use it.

TBH, my experience of pumps has never been worth the effort.
Title: Re: Oil Extractor
Post by: tunnie on 12 September 2016, 16:47:01
50p for a suitable block of 2"x4" :-X

You can even notch it if required...

Hunting in the garage I found a load of 2x4 I forgot about, just need to notch it and make a rubber patch of some kind
Title: Re: Oil Extractor
Post by: TheBoy on 12 September 2016, 16:59:40
Would an old cut-off of carpet suffice?  Glued and screwed to wood if reqd?
Title: Re: Oil Extractor
Post by: tunnie on 12 September 2016, 17:08:56
Need to do some digging around, I won't need the car mats in the 2.2 any more  ::)  :D
Title: Re: Oil Extractor
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 12 September 2016, 18:25:41
Would an old cut-off of carpet suffice?  Glued and screwed to wood if reqd?

Only if it's shagpile!  ::)  Tunnie's new baby must be comfortable even with it's legs in the air!  ;D
Title: Re: Oil Extractor
Post by: tunnie on 12 September 2016, 18:28:59
Would an old cut-off of carpet suffice?  Glued and screwed to wood if reqd?

Only if it's shagpile!  ::)  Tunnie's new baby must be comfortable even with it's legs in the air!  ;D

The car or that thing that calls me Daddy?

If it's the latter she is nearly 2 and half now.  :o
Title: Re: Oil Extractor
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 12 September 2016, 18:33:42
Would an old cut-off of carpet suffice?  Glued and screwed to wood if reqd?

Only if it's shagpile!  ::)  Tunnie's new baby must be comfortable even with it's legs in the air!  ;D

The car or that thing that calls me Daddy?

If it's the latter she is nearly 2 and half now.  :o

Don't think a 2 1/2 year old could be described as a new baby.  ::)   :-\

Anyway it's about time you created a little brother or sister for her, and now you have a shiny new car to cart them around in, you've no excuse!  :D  ;D
Title: Re: Oil Extractor
Post by: Andy B on 12 September 2016, 19:17:10
....
Would the pipe naturally sit right at the bottle? Not idea how rigid pipe is TBH.
 .....

Remember the lace curtain wire thingies ..... generally white with a screw in eye at each end? It's the same ast that .... ie flexible but rigid enough to insert down the dip stick tube  :y
Title: Re: Oil Extractor
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 12 September 2016, 22:53:16
Would an old cut-off of carpet suffice?  Glued and screwed to wood if reqd?

Only if it's shagpile!  ::)  Tunnie's new baby must be comfortable even with it's legs in the air!  ;D

The car or that thing that calls me Daddy?

If it's the latter she is nearly 2 and half now.  :o

Don't think a 2 1/2 year old could be described as a new baby.  ::)   :-\

Anyway it's about time you created a little brother or sister for her, and now you have a shiny new car to cart them around in, you've no excuse!  :D  ;D
Now you've gone and done it...

Be twins next, which will see the four seat, four door coupe screwed :D
Title: Re: Oil Extractor
Post by: Andy B on 13 September 2016, 00:20:17
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If it's the latter she is nearly 2 and half now.  :o

Bloody hell ...... and it was only 5 mins ago that Tunnie was a spotty student!  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Oil Extractor
Post by: tunnie on 13 September 2016, 09:43:54
Would an old cut-off of carpet suffice?  Glued and screwed to wood if reqd?

Only if it's shagpile!  ::)  Tunnie's new baby must be comfortable even with it's legs in the air!  ;D

The car or that thing that calls me Daddy?

If it's the latter she is nearly 2 and half now.  :o

Don't think a 2 1/2 year old could be described as a new baby.  ::)   :-\

Anyway it's about time you created a little brother or sister for her, and now you have a shiny new car to cart them around in, you've no excuse!  :D  ;D
Now you've gone and done it...

Be twins next, which will see the four seat, four door coupe screwed :D

Hell no. The 3.2 will be flogged and Galaxy purchased instead!
Title: Re: Oil Extractor
Post by: tunnie on 13 September 2016, 09:44:19
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If it's the latter she is nearly 2 and half now.  :o

Bloody hell ...... and it was only 5 mins ago that Tunnie was a spotty student!  ;) ;)

I know.  :o ;D ;D
Title: Re: Oil Extractor
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 13 September 2016, 10:51:11
Would an old cut-off of carpet suffice?  Glued and screwed to wood if reqd?

Only if it's shagpile!  ::)  Tunnie's new baby must be comfortable even with it's legs in the air!  ;D

The car or that thing that calls me Daddy?

If it's the latter she is nearly 2 and half now.  :o

Don't think a 2 1/2 year old could be described as a new baby.  ::)   :-\

Anyway it's about time you created a little brother or sister for her, and now you have a shiny new car to cart them around in, you've no excuse!  :D  ;D
Now you've gone and done it...

Be twins next, which will see the four seat, four door coupe screwed :D

Hell no. The 3.2 will be flogged and Galaxy purchased instead!

You better start the "Which is the best Mum Bus?" thread now then!   :P  ;D
Title: Re: Oil Extractor
Post by: raywilb on 13 September 2016, 11:10:40
Can those who use an oil extractor give any recommendations?

With my new VW TDi, as the oil filter is accessible from above, I plan on using one.

Would need to have 5-6L capacity I think.  :-\
  I bought one of those lidl were selling. although slow they work ok - I tend to suck it out straight into a can then when I have 2ltrs or so out I will warm up the engine & drop the rest through sump plug. I have one of those 8ltr containers for catching the oil but the cant cope with the speed the oil comes out.
Title: Re: Oil Extractor
Post by: tunnie on 13 September 2016, 11:56:19
Would an old cut-off of carpet suffice?  Glued and screwed to wood if reqd?

Only if it's shagpile!  ::)  Tunnie's new baby must be comfortable even with it's legs in the air!  ;D

The car or that thing that calls me Daddy?

If it's the latter she is nearly 2 and half now.  :o

Don't think a 2 1/2 year old could be described as a new baby.  ::)   :-\

Anyway it's about time you created a little brother or sister for her, and now you have a shiny new car to cart them around in, you've no excuse!  :D  ;D
Now you've gone and done it...

Be twins next, which will see the four seat, four door coupe screwed :D

Hell no. The 3.2 will be flogged and Galaxy purchased instead!

You better start the "Which is the best Mum Bus?" thread now then!   :P  ;D

 :D :D :D :D