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Title: Rear hand brake adjusters
Post by: powerslinky on 16 September 2016, 16:50:23
hi all
         need a bit of adjustment on the handbrake on the newly aquired 2.6 CDX  "Inastate"

When adjusting /rolling the notched adjuster wheel through the hole , I just want to know

which way the adjusting wheel rotates to take up the play .( To bring shoes closer to drum)

Is it 12 o'clock to 6 (downwards)  or 6  to 12 (upwards)  Seem to remember it is downwards, but probably wrong  ::) ::)

Also to make things more complicated  . . .does it revolve the same way on both sides 
( N/s  & o/s }  ?

any advice greatly appriciated     cheers, Al :y
Title: Re: Rear hand brake adjusters
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 16 September 2016, 16:54:25
I think it's upwards to bring it in/release, however, I believe they can be reassembled either way up, so someone may have been there and buggered it up for you, so to speak. Afraid it's one of them 'try, ans see until the wheel/drum won't rotate' then you know you're going in the wrong direction... That's IF you can turn the little sod.
Title: Re: Rear hand brake adjusters
Post by: Lazydocker on 16 September 2016, 20:10:01
Try both ways... Could easily be either way :y
Title: Re: Rear hand brake adjusters
Post by: powerslinky on 16 September 2016, 20:12:17
I think[/i] it's upwards to bring it in/release, however, I believe they can be reassembled either way up, so someone may have been there and buggered it up for you, so to speak. Afraid it's one of them 'try, ans see until the wheel/drum won't rotate' then you know you're going in the wrong direction... That's IF you can turn the little sod.

Now that really is confusing  ::) ::)

just trial & error I suppose  . ...  .just thought I might find out for sure & be adjusting the right way first time  :D :D
Title: Re: Rear hand brake adjusters
Post by: powerslinky on 16 September 2016, 20:14:02
Try both ways... Could easily be either way :y

Will do LD . . .  sure its down to get shoes closer to drum though :-\
Title: Re: Rear hand brake adjusters
Post by: Lazydocker on 16 September 2016, 20:16:26
Try both ways... Could easily be either way :y

Will do LD . . .  sure its down to get shoes closer to drum though :-\

Depends if the last person to touch them put them in that way around ;)
Title: Re: Rear hand brake adjusters
Post by: Nick W on 16 September 2016, 20:34:37
I think[/i] it's upwards to bring it in/release, however, I believe they can be reassembled either way up, so someone may have been there and buggered it up for you, so to speak. Afraid it's one of them 'try, ans see until the wheel/drum won't rotate' then you know you're going in the wrong direction... That's IF you can turn the little sod.


Now that really is confusing  ::) ::)

just trial & error I suppose  . ...  .just thought I might find out for sure & be adjusting the right way first time  :D :D

You might want to scratch a mark on the disc so you know for the next time
Title: Re: Rear hand brake adjusters
Post by: Stargazer57N on 16 September 2016, 22:57:17
Look through the hole and see if you can see the thread of the adjuster. If the thread is to the left screw it down 12 to 6 and if on the right, screw it up, (if you'll excuse the expression), that'll adjust the shoes out.
Title: Re: Rear hand brake adjusters
Post by: omega2018 on 16 September 2016, 23:57:28
have a look here http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=125595.msg1665527#msg1665527 (http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=125595.msg1665527#msg1665527)

an update - defo worth backing off only the minimum to get free spinning, say 1 point, my handbrake after adjustment kicked in immediately but now a year and a half later is a couple of clicks. had I backed off more I would be having to tighten it soon.
Title: Re: Rear hand brake adjusters
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 17 September 2016, 09:00:48
Think of them as bolts you're doing up clockwise with the head at the back of the car. So nearside you turn the star adjuster upwards and offside you turn them downwards.  ;)
Title: Re: Rear hand brake adjusters
Post by: powerslinky on 17 September 2016, 13:42:30
Think of them as bolts you're doing up clockwise with the head at the back of the car. So nearside you turn the star adjuster upwards and offside you turn them downwards.  ;)

But what if they have been switched as explained in above posts ?   Will be the other way around won't it/

Not doing this until back from hols   . . . . but sure I can sort it . I just presumed there was "right"  way  . . .

Guess not  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Rear hand brake adjusters
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 17 September 2016, 14:32:38
Yeah, sorry my post wasnt more helpful , but it really could be either way.  :(
Title: Re: Rear hand brake adjusters
Post by: Olympia5776 on 17 September 2016, 20:52:34
I did mine last weekend .
NS/LH is down to get the shoe to interfere with the drum, OS/RH is up.
Title: Re: Rear hand brake adjusters
Post by: powerslinky on 18 September 2016, 07:07:33
I did mine last weekend .
NS/LH is down to get the shoe to interfere with the drum, OS/RH is up.

Ok thanks  . . . when I do it I will start like that  ;)

logic seems to point at  .  .that what ever way the n/s needs to be adjusted  . . the o/s will be the opposite ;) ;)
Title: Re: Rear hand brake adjusters
Post by: Tick Tock on 18 September 2016, 10:52:40
A picture paints a thousand words - hope this helps, and would seem to be the normal arrangement.

(http://www.emgauge70s.co.uk/omega_cdx303-os.jpg)
Offside

..........

(http://www.emgauge70s.co.uk/omega_cdx304-ns.jpg)
Nearside
Title: Re: Rear hand brake adjusters
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 18 September 2016, 12:02:31
Think of them as bolts you're doing up clockwise with the head at the back of the car. So nearside you turn the star adjuster upwards and offside you turn them downwards.  ;)

But what if they have been switched as explained in above posts ?   Will be the other way around won't it/

Not doing this until back from hols   . . . . but sure I can sort it . I just presumed there was "right"  way  . . .

Guess not  ::) ::)

If they havn't been interfered with, this is the way they should go.  It's the way they're set up on mine and I recently adjusted the handbrake on my BMW and it was the same on that.  :y

Basically though, whichever way you turn it, if you can't lock the hub up then you're turning it the wrong way.  ;)  It's a PITA of a job!  ::)  ;D
Title: Re: Rear hand brake adjusters
Post by: powerslinky on 18 September 2016, 13:59:40
Thanks Sir Tigg . . . can see exactly what its all about now  :y :y
Title: Re: Rear hand brake adjusters
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 18 September 2016, 14:42:06
The issue is that the adjuster can be fitted either way around on both sides...

In an ideal world, you'll pop the caliper/disc off and clean it up as per Mark DTMs excellent guide before adjusting.

It can then be reassembled as per Tick Tocks pictures and adjusted accordingly :y
Title: Re: Rear hand brake adjusters
Post by: Nick W on 18 September 2016, 14:50:36
The issue is that the adjuster can be fitted either way around on both sides...

In an ideal world, you'll pop the caliper/disc off and clean it up as per Mark DTMs excellent guide before adjusting.

It can then be reassembled as per Tick Tocks pictures and adjusted accordingly :y


Those pictures should give you a decent idea of which way yours are assembled. If they haven't been adjusted recently, it can take a lot of winding before you realise you're going the wrong way!
I like to use a long flexible screwdriver to 'flick' the adjuster.
Title: Re: Rear hand brake adjusters
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 19 September 2016, 09:38:39
Also as I've found there's no 'feel' so you are convinced you're doing no good, but as Nick sas, you're flicking it, so can't feel it moving so well. On the other hand, you also could be just scraping the thread, or poking the backing plate, and ouldn't really know. Only after a while of poking you you get the knack for it.


Yes, a PITA job, definitely, because it's fiddly, rather than actually hard graft.