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Title: Rear parking sensors
Post by: tigers_gonads on 27 September 2016, 15:38:08
Mini Me can't reverse park a friggin tiny little Corsa  ::) :-[ :-X

Would a Omega kit work okay ?

By my reckoning, its only the sensor wires, a 12 volt permanent feed, a switched 12 volt supply from the reversing circuit and a ground to the chassis somewhere  :-\

If it will work, anybody got one for sale ?
Title: Re: Rear parking sensors
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 27 September 2016, 15:47:29
Well, in answer to your Q - don't see why not. Though there must be a dozen aftermarket cheap n cheerful kits on certain auction websites these days, which would work perfectly fine, and are designed to retro-fit, rather than taking what is supposed to be an integrated (and theoretically plug n play) setup and splicing it into the loom. How handy you are with a soldering iron/electrics would alter how easy/difficult it is.

Option 2, and not actually answering your question, is to get the little bleeder to learn! Not to be cruel to the lad, I like him, but he needs to learn. Daft as it might sound, get him playing around on a larger car makes parking easier. I learned on a Polo, later in a Corsa, which I passed in. The day after passing I was convinced the Corsa was a huge oil-tanker of a beast, that was unbelievably challenging to manoeuvre. My first was was a TD Omega, one week later I was comfortable, learning the dimensions, and when it came to park my mate's Fiesta up as a favour, the thing felt like what it is, a teeny-weeny little supermini - dead easy.  :y

When I come to power all people will learn to drive in medium-large cars. I genuinely think owning a bigger car makes you aware of your presence on the road and improves your driving/parking too.  :)
Title: Re: Rear parking sensors
Post by: Mr Gav on 27 September 2016, 15:48:02
No reason why it shouldn`t as they're a stand alone unit AFAIK, you could try ebay as I`ve not seen many for sale on here, I was after one myself when I had my MV6 but none came up for sale in over 12 months.
Title: Re: Rear parking sensors
Post by: tunnie on 27 September 2016, 15:52:38
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/xBLTff-yiNc/hqdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: Rear parking sensors
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 27 September 2016, 15:57:06
That is genius!  ;D
Title: Re: Rear parking sensors
Post by: Nick W on 27 September 2016, 16:15:25
Mini Me can't reverse park a friggin tiny little Corsa  ::) :-[ :-X

Would a Omega kit work okay ?

By my reckoning, its only the sensor wires, a 12 volt permanent feed, a switched 12 volt supply from the reversing circuit and a ground to the chassis somewhere  :-\

If it will work, anybody got one for sale ?


Why faff about with an Omega set when you can buy a complete universal kit for about a tenner? The hardest part of fitting it is neatly running the sensor and display wires back to the ECU. Then it need does just need an earth, and the switching wire soldered to the reverse light wire.


Stick the display upside down to the roof so you can see it in the mirror(and not just plonked on the dash) and you're done:


(https://www.dropbox.com/s/uaeclsauh21q9r2/parkingsensors%5B1%5D.jpg?dl=1)


It is worth spending a couple of quid extra, and buying sensors that are coloured to match the car; the cheap black ones on my silver bumper could look better
Title: Re: Rear parking sensors
Post by: Kevin Wood on 27 September 2016, 16:16:34
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/xBLTff-yiNc/hqdefault.jpg)

Now what incident did that remind me of? It's not self-inflating on engine start, though, so not as much fun. :D
Title: Re: Rear parking sensors
Post by: Nick W on 27 September 2016, 16:20:31
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/xBLTff-yiNc/hqdefault.jpg)

Now what incident did that remind me of? It's not self-inflating on engine start, though, so not as much fun. :D


So you've never cable tied a horn behind a rear bumper and wired it to the trailer socket brake light pin?
Title: Re: Rear parking sensors
Post by: Kevin Wood on 27 September 2016, 16:32:09
So you've never cable tied a horn behind a rear bumper and wired it to the trailer socket brake light pin?

You're giving me ideas... :D

But that'd only work for caravanists. :(
Title: Re: Rear parking sensors
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 27 September 2016, 16:38:20
I have a set here, but minus the speaker. Sensors and mountings are painted white.

Can test for function using the traditional finger buzzing test :D
Title: Re: Rear parking sensors
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 27 September 2016, 16:48:04
I have a set here, but minus the speaker. Sensors and mountings are painted white.

Can test for function using the traditional finger buzzing test :D

First Tiger's, now you're making references to my sex life, too!
Title: Re: Rear parking sensors
Post by: ted_one on 27 September 2016, 17:09:28
Al (HKT) did two of my cars,made a real good job of it with £10 aftermarket kits,a bit of measuring up and drill skills are needed plus a little bit of electrickery connecting.Also Al fixed the visual part of the unit which is a small screen to see how close you are getting to the target up on the high level brake light casing,so that you look at it via your rear view mirror as you reverse,Mercedes style.... brilliant! :y
Title: Re: Rear parking sensors
Post by: STEMO on 27 September 2016, 17:23:13
Al (HKT) did two of my cars,made a real good job of it with £10 aftermarket kits,a bit of measuring up and drill skills are needed plus a little bit of electrickery connecting.Also Al fixed the visual part of the unit which is a small screen to see how close you are getting to the target up on the high level brake light casing,so that you look at it via your rear view mirror as you reverse,Mercedes style.... brilliant! :y
And...he has a set....minus the speaker....voila.
Title: Re: Rear parking sensors
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 27 September 2016, 17:28:29
My MV6 had after market rear parking sensors. They made an annoying noise but other than that were totally useless.

 
Title: Re: Rear parking sensors
Post by: Boatboy on 27 September 2016, 20:49:07
Well, in answer to your Q - don't see why not. Though there must be a dozen aftermarket cheap n cheerful kits on certain auction websites these days, which would work perfectly fine, and are designed to retro-fit, rather than taking what is supposed to be an integrated (and theoretically plug n play) setup and splicing it into the loom. How handy you are with a soldering iron/electrics would alter how easy/difficult it is.

Option 2, and not actually answering your question, is to get the little bleeder to learn! Not to be cruel to the lad, I like him, but he needs to learn. Daft as it might sound, get him playing around on a larger car makes parking easier. I learned on a Polo, later in a Corsa, which I passed in. The day after passing I was convinced the Corsa was a huge oil-tanker of a beast, that was unbelievably challenging to manoeuvre. My first was was a TD Omega, one week later I was comfortable, learning the dimensions, and when it came to park my mate's Fiesta up as a favour, the thing felt like what it is, a teeny-weeny little supermini - dead easy.  :y

When I come to power all people will learn to drive in medium-large cars. I genuinely think owning a bigger car makes you aware of your presence on the road and improves your driving/parking too.  :)


You've not been round here much at school run time have you.
Title: Re: Rear parking sensors
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 28 September 2016, 11:11:33
Hmmm....true  :'( .... I should chance that to it can, as with all things in life, sadly. Of course the opposite can also be said. I also think everyone should have to have a 'national car' a standardised design, which if you prove you have looked after it for 1 year, (on-board telematics and experienced no speeding, scrapes, or worse) you are allowed to be 'promoted' to the next level up (let's say 2000cc / 150bhp) again, year later if you have a clean license, you go up. It would certainly eradicate the morons in Range Rooneys who can't park for ...toffee. They'd still be driving round in their 'national car' ten years later, and the associated shame of it. You don't like it? Drive better, then!

Potentially inflammatory and fascist I know, but a little fascism never hurt anybody  :D
Title: Re: Rear parking sensors
Post by: tigers_gonads on 28 September 2016, 12:07:12
Well, in answer to your Q - don't see why not. Though there must be a dozen aftermarket cheap n cheerful kits on certain auction websites these days, which would work perfectly fine, and are designed to retro-fit, rather than taking what is supposed to be an integrated (and theoretically plug n play) setup and splicing it into the loom. How handy you are with a soldering iron/electrics would alter how easy/difficult it is.

Option 2, and not actually answering your question, is to get the little bleeder to learn! Not to be cruel to the lad, I like him, but he needs to learn. Daft as it might sound, get him playing around on a larger car makes parking easier. I learned on a Polo, later in a Corsa, which I passed in. The day after passing I was convinced the Corsa was a huge oil-tanker of a beast, that was unbelievably challenging to manoeuvre. My first was was a TD Omega, one week later I was comfortable, learning the dimensions, and when it came to park my mate's Fiesta up as a favour, the thing felt like what it is, a teeny-weeny little supermini - dead easy.  :y

When I come to power all people will learn to drive in medium-large cars. I genuinely think owning a bigger car makes you aware of your presence on the road and improves your driving/parking too.  :)




Opinion 2 is what i've been ramming into his head since he bought the car during march 2014.
He passed his test first time last November and since then, all he does is drive to work in the city centre, pick the missus up from work and very occasionally visit my parents.

Where as I had big balls when I was his age and thrived on any challenge, he is more like his mother and always takes the easy way out sadly.
Problem is, he also has my attitude when confronted so lets just say daddy is having to learn to tread softly or it gets out of hand very quickly  ;)
Title: Re: Rear parking sensors
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 28 September 2016, 12:16:32
Haha. I get you, feller. No worries.

I do, however, think that a bigger motor would help, daft as it sounds. Well, it helped me.

Or is it he really doesn't park enough to 'get the practice in' so to speak? With Bekki, she'll always point at the easy drive through space in car park, etc... where I'd rather go for a trickier reverse in, so as to keep my hand in, not get sloppy. Again, we all get lazy like that, so perhaps he's not getting the practice in he needs?
Title: Re: Rear parking sensors
Post by: tigers_gonads on 28 September 2016, 12:33:11
Haha. I get you, feller. No worries.

I do, however, think that a bigger motor would help, daft as it sounds. Well, it helped me.

Or is it he really doesn't park enough to 'get the practice in' so to speak? With Bekki, she'll always point at the easy drive through space in car park, etc... where I'd rather go for a trickier reverse in, so as to keep my hand in, not get sloppy. Again, we all get lazy like that, so perhaps he's not getting the practice in he needs?



When I passed my test, I didn't drive again for nearly 3 months because I got posted within weeks out to sausage land were I got my first car.
A lovely right hand drive Mk1 Golf  :-* :-* :y
Out in sausage land, the majority of town street parking slots are set at a angle to the road and you MUST reverse in by law.
Needless to say, I learnt very quickly after a bollocking off a German copper for pulling straight in right in front of him.
Title: Re: Rear parking sensors
Post by: zirk on 28 September 2016, 12:53:00
The ones down south bleep at you, the ones up North have a recorded message "Ya all right..., Ya all right" what you need is the Female Up North version, "Left a bit, Right a bit..., No your other Right"
Title: Re: Rear parking sensors
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 28 September 2016, 13:33:35
Haha. I get you, feller. No worries.

I do, however, think that a bigger motor would help, daft as it sounds. Well, it helped me.

Or is it he really doesn't park enough to 'get the practice in' so to speak? With Bekki, she'll always point at the easy drive through space in car park, etc... where I'd rather go for a trickier reverse in, so as to keep my hand in, not get sloppy. Again, we all get lazy like that, so perhaps he's not getting the practice in he needs?



When I passed my test, I didn't drive again for nearly 3 months because I got posted within weeks out to sausage land were I got my first car.
A lovely right hand drive Mk1 Golf  :-* :-* :y
Out in sausage land, the majority of town street parking slots are set at a angle to the road and you MUST reverse in by law.
Needless to say, I learnt very quickly after a bollocking off a German copper for pulling straight in right in front of him.


Perhaps that's the difference, nail on head, mate. He's had it a bit easy, not only in parking, but as a society. In the 60s-70s you'd have some ex-sergeant major type teaching you to drive, your school teacher would threaten you with a cane on a daily basis (same at my school, in 2001 but he was 55, she was 15, and it was an entirely different arrangement alltogether) and if you cocked up there wasn't the same 'nanny state' so when you fall through someone else's window, and you sue them for having a window there, type of thing. If parking sensors didn't exist, he'd have to either learn, or have the keys taken off him, or pay for the damage caused on his car. Because they exist, it's another 'safety net'. And in any case, why do you see cars with parking sensors and scraped bumpers?!? One word - idiots!  :D


I've got scrapes and marks on my bumpers, I admit it. They annoy me, they were all accidents, but I live with them, know I'll have to pay to repair them, but acknowledge I did (some of) them, and it makes me want to try harder/park better.  :)
Title: Re: Rear parking sensors
Post by: tigers_gonads on 28 September 2016, 14:20:09
The ones down south bleep at you, the ones up North have a recorded message "Ya all right..., Ya all right" what you need is the Female Up North version, "Left a bit, Right a bit..., No your other Right"



I'll show that to the missus when she gets home  ::)

What was your address again .............  :P ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Rear parking sensors
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 28 September 2016, 14:43:23
 :y