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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: JamesV6CDX on 09 October 2016, 22:39:52
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I have been watching this with some interest...
Is there REALLY a factory LPG on the V6 Omega? (Ad says it was originally from Germany but is RHD)
Looks a v tidy install but I didn't think there was a factory LPG omega V6.
Anyone? :y
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vauxhall-Omega-3-2-LPG-Estate-/201682806216?hash=item2ef53b65c8:g:vpkAAOSwYIxX8194
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Yes, seen a couple now, a 3.0 MV6 and an Elite, and a 3.2 MV6, strangely enough they were all Esates. Quiet rare though
The visual clue is the so called Factory fits, followed the same theme as the Astra and Vetras, spare wheel tank, the LPG contents gauge was shared with the petrol one (would slowly change when on Gas or Petrol) and had a little red LED switch over on the centre consul.
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No... never an option on the Omega (or any Vauxhall actually ;)) and that certainly isn't... Vauxhall "Factory" conversions from that era are Koltec/Necam systems and use a distributor instead of injectors (and are also utter shit ::))
It does look like a very tidy conversion though :y
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It was probably fitted by Millbrook, who no longer exist. It's OK when working but spares are very expensive, if available at all.
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I briefly thought it was your car when I first saw it.
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I like the price it's at though. Maybe LPG'd Omegas are desirable. :-\ ::) ;D
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No... never an option on the Omega (or any Vauxhall actually ;)) and that certainly isn't... Vauxhall "Factory" conversions from that era are Koltec/Necam systems and use a distributor instead of injectors (and are also utter shit ::))
It does look like a very tidy conversion though :y
Yes, thats why I mentioned 'So called Factory Fit', it was an option Vauxhall offered on certain New Cars of that era, as you say fitted by a third party, deal was, when you collected the car it was ready fitted with LPG and registered as Dual Fuel on the V5.
From memory early ones where Koltec then followed by Necam Systems, looking at the Pics now though, it doesn't look like one of them systems. :-\
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I like the price it's at though. Maybe LPG'd Omegas are desirable. :-\ ::) ;D
Could be wrong, but with the Millage (156K), Elite and LPG option reckon that could go around or above the 1K mark.
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It says it was sold in Germany and imported? :-\
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It says it was sold in Germany and imported? :-\
Where does it say that?
Made in Germany?
Gov Web Site
Vehicle details KJ03 DFL
Vehicle make VAUXHALL
Date of first registration 29 March 2003
Year of manufacture 2003
Mind you Seller also says He will post to USA and Australia.
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It says it was sold in Germany and imported? :-\
Where does it say that?
Made in Germany?
Gov Web Site
Vehicle details KJ03 DFL
Vehicle make VAUXHALL
Date of first registration 29 March 2003
Year of manufacture 2003
Mind you Seller also says He will post to USA and Australia.
Read the fickin ad.
Country/region of manufacture: Germany
Previously registered overseas: Yes.
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I'm genuinely interested and I might go have a look.
I emailed the seller this:
YOU:
Hi Colin, very interested in your omega, and just have a few queries
1) MOT history shows advisories for a rear wheel bearing at both the last tests. Is this job still outstanding?
2) MOT in March also says engine light was illuminated. Is this still the case?
3) Reference the LPG does it work faultlessly and drive the same as it does on petrol - and do you have an LPG safety certificate? (I note the vehicle is not on the UK LPGA register, which is required by most insurers, but can be easily added if an installation certificate exists).
4) Is it definitely a factory install? I only ask as when I did MOT checks, I see its not listed as such with DVLA.
5) Are there any other faults?
Thanks in advance for considering my questions, I am aware of the cars age and mileage no way being picky or expecting a showroom car - I do however think yours looks very tidy and I'm interested in owning it, I'm a long distance away so just checking as much as I can before bidding!
Cheers
James
The seller responded with this
Am back in the country tomorrow so will reply. It has MOT until April 2017 so that may answer some of your questions. I was informed it was factory fit conversion in 2003. If there is no record it it on DVLA web how come they reduce the road tax. NEVER trust info you read on the web and in particular Government web sites. They would have trouble organising sex in a brothel
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Right in my neck of the woods this one . . .
but never ever seen it out & about :-\ means nothing really I suppose ::)
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I did a bit of digging when I had my 3.0 with a Koltec kit allegedly factory fitted. Turns out the kit was basically lobbed on the back seat at the factory and the dealer farmed out the installation to a local firm, in my case it was someone in Heckmondwike as I had to take it back to them to service the system because no other firm would touch a Koltec system, it ran perfectly for 3 years after that though.
Edit: Mine looked nothing like that as the front end installation was near invisible !
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No... never an option on the Omega (or any Vauxhall actually ;)) and that certainly isn't... Vauxhall "Factory" conversions from that era are Koltec/Necam systems and use a distributor instead of injectors (and are also utter shit ::))
It does look like a very tidy conversion though :y
Yes, thats why I mentioned 'So called Factory Fit', it was an option Vauxhall offered on certain New Cars of that era, as you say fitted by a third party, deal was, when you collected the car it was ready fitted with LPG and registered as Dual Fuel on the V5.
From memory early ones where Koltec then followed by Necam Systems, looking at the Pics now though, it doesn't look like one of them systems. :-\
Koltec and Necam are the same system ;) They did a distributed system and an injection system. I suspect it is the latter... injectors aren't cheap if needed - £295+p&p and VAT per set of 4 (not sure they're available as 6), and that was a few years back :o :o
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I'm genuinely interested and I might go have a look.
I emailed the seller this:
YOU:
Hi Colin, very interested in your omega, and just have a few queries
1) MOT history shows advisories for a rear wheel bearing at both the last tests. Is this job still outstanding?
2) MOT in March also says engine light was illuminated. Is this still the case?
3) Reference the LPG does it work faultlessly and drive the same as it does on petrol - and do you have an LPG safety certificate? (I note the vehicle is not on the UK LPGA register, which is required by most insurers, but can be easily added if an installation certificate exists).
4) Is it definitely a factory install? I only ask as when I did MOT checks, I see its not listed as such with DVLA.
5) Are there any other faults?
Thanks in advance for considering my questions, I am aware of the cars age and mileage no way being picky or expecting a showroom car - I do however think yours looks very tidy and I'm interested in owning it, I'm a long distance away so just checking as much as I can before bidding!
Cheers
James
The seller responded with this
Am back in the country tomorrow so will reply. It has MOT until April 2017 so that may answer some of your questions. I was informed it was factory fit conversion in 2003. If there is no record it it on DVLA web how come they reduce the road tax. NEVER trust info you read on the web and in particular Government web sites. They would have trouble organising sex in a brothel
I like his answer but just because it is getting a discount on RFL doesn't mean it was "factory fitted"!
UKLPG website is useless anyway... Most insurers require the log book to recorded it as LPG Bi-Fuel or the likes... :y
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....... injectors aren't cheap if needed - £295+p&p and VAT per set of 4 (not sure they're available as 6), and that was a few years back :o :o
I know they're not the same ......
a lad at work needed a new injector for his diseasal Golf ...... IIRC it was nearer £500 and then needed coding
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....... injectors aren't cheap if needed - £295+p&p and VAT per set of 4 (not sure they're available as 6), and that was a few years back :o :o
I know they're not the same ......
a lad at work needed a new injector for his diseasal Golf ...... IIRC it was nearer £500 and then needed coding
Don't tell Tunnie :-X ::) ;)
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....... injectors aren't cheap if needed - £295+p&p and VAT per set of 4 (not sure they're available as 6), and that was a few years back :o :o
I know they're not the same ......
a lad at work needed a new injector for his diseasal Golf ...... IIRC it was nearer £500 and then needed coding
I was in the VW at Bury getting some parts and the guy in front of me asked for the price of one injector and it was about £450 :o
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....... injectors aren't cheap if needed - £295+p&p and VAT per set of 4 (not sure they're available as 6), and that was a few years back :o :o
I know they're not the same ......
a lad at work needed a new injector for his diseasal Golf ...... IIRC it was nearer £500 and then needed coding
I was in the VW at Bury getting some parts and the guy in front of me asked for the price of one injector and it was about £450 :o
A friend used to have a 3l 6cyl VW Touareg and all 6 injectors had problems at the same time. The dealer thought it had probably been caused by fuel contamination. He was quoted £450 x 6 plus fitting. He managed to source 6 from a written off Touareg at a snip of £250 each. :o :o :o This was not long after a £500 bill for a DPF replacement. :( As soon as he had fixed it, he cut his losses, by replacing it.
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If the car genuinely started life in Germany... Thinking Military tax-free purchase, then the LPG kit may well have been fitted to a decent standard... However, it sounds like that paperwork is not with the car.
Seller also sounds everyone slightly evasive in response to direct questions.
That said, it's an Omega, what's the worst that can happen... ::)
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....... injectors aren't cheap if needed - £295+p&p and VAT per set of 4 (not sure they're available as 6), and that was a few years back :o :o
I know they're not the same ......
a lad at work needed a new injector for his diseasal Golf ...... IIRC it was nearer £500 and then needed coding
Don't tell Tunnie :-X ::) ;)
Oops, too late ;D
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....... injectors aren't cheap if needed - £295+p&p and VAT per set of 4 (not sure they're available as 6), and that was a few years back :o :o
I know they're not the same ......
a lad at work needed a new injector for his diseasal Golf ...... IIRC it was nearer £500 and then needed coding
Don't tell Tunnie :-X ::) ;)
Oops, too late ;D
Really cheap to run, these tractors. :y
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Could be wrong, but with the Millage (156K), Elite and LPG option reckon that could go around or above the 1K mark.
And worth every penny.
Did you get it James?