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Title: Testing in MK today
Post by: EMD on 11 October 2016, 07:14:50
Just heard that the new driverless cars are being tested in Milton Keynes today . All those roundabouts and TB to contend with  :D ;D
Title: Re: Testing in MK today
Post by: Mr.OmegaMan on 11 October 2016, 07:39:18
I don't see how driver less vehicles could ever work while there are still vehicles being driven by people especially in the twisty narrow country roads, Just imagine a narrow country road almost single track in size on a blind bend what on earth would the driver less car do if there isn't sufficient time to brake or even if there was a place to pull in to let the other car pass does the driver less car have the brains to do what would be classed as second nature / common sense to (most) humans?

One thought i had maybe if every vehicle no matter what it was required by law or something to have some form of communications device / GPS so the vehicles would know where they are etc..

Just another gimmick car manufactures are brewing up.

Only place driver less vehicles could potentially work is on a motorway / duel carriageway type roads.

Overall i think it's a daft idea. Especially in-till its well thought out just mixing driver less vehicles willy-nilly with human controlled vehicles is a disaster waiting to happen.
Title: Re: Testing in MK today
Post by: Ever Ready on 11 October 2016, 07:45:46
I don't see how driver less vehicles could ever work while there are still vehicles being driven by people especially in the twisty narrow country roads, Just imagine a narrow country road almost single track in size on a blind bend what on earth would the driver less car do if there isn't sufficient time to brake or even if there was a place to pull in to let the other car pass does the driver less car have the brains to do what would be classed as second nature / common sense to (most) humans?

One thought i had maybe if every vehicle no matter what it was required by law or something to have some form of communications device / GPS so the vehicles would know where they are etc..

Just another gimmick car manufactures are brewing up.

Only place driver less vehicles could potentially work is on a motorway / duel carriageway type roads.

Overall i think it's a daft idea. Especially in-till its well thought out just mixing driver less vehicles willy-nilly with human controlled vehicles is a disaster waiting to happen.
Agreed
Title: Re: Testing in MK today
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 11 October 2016, 10:00:16
I wonder if the manufacturers have actually asked if anyone wants one of these things.  ::)  :-\
Title: Re: Testing in MK today
Post by: aaronjb on 11 October 2016, 10:39:03
I wonder if the manufacturers have actually asked if anyone wants one of these things.  ::)  :-\

This particular test is Oxford University so like most* University projects has close to zero use in the real world.

(*Opinion may be coloured due to my lack of University education)  ;D
Title: Re: Testing in MK today
Post by: Lazydocker on 11 October 2016, 11:36:35
It's a single car, not cars ;)
Title: Re: Testing in MK today
Post by: zirk on 11 October 2016, 14:06:13
It's a single car, not cars ;)
That might explain it, wondered why TB was catching the Bus, did he leave the handbrake off on his one.
Title: Re: Testing in MK today
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 11 October 2016, 14:08:38
It's a single car, not cars ;)
That might explain it, wondered why TB was catching the Bus, did he leave the handbrake off on his one.
He forgot to turn it off when he parked it... the car got bored and drove off, hence the bus to try and locate it :y
Title: Re: Testing in MK today
Post by: zirk on 11 October 2016, 14:27:02
It's a single car, not cars ;)
That might explain it, wondered why TB was catching the Bus, did he leave the handbrake off on his one.
He forgot to turn it off when he parked it... the car got bored and drove off, hence the bus to try and locate it :y
See this is what happens when you use some Micky Mouse Tech2 on Cruise Control and drive Automatics.

As for the Car, know where that will be by now, doing Black Circles at the local BP Garage.
Title: Re: Testing in MK today
Post by: TheBoy on 12 October 2016, 15:51:56
I don't see how driver less vehicles could ever work while there are still vehicles being driven by people especially in the twisty narrow country roads, Just imagine a narrow country road almost single track in size on a blind bend what on earth would the driver less car do if there isn't sufficient time to brake or even if there was a place to pull in to let the other car pass does the driver less car have the brains to do what would be classed as second nature / common sense to (most) humans
Anyone who regularly drives in MK would understand that even a badly programmed autonomous car would be a better driver than your average MK driver
Title: Re: Testing in MK today
Post by: 2boxerdogs on 12 October 2016, 17:26:07
Saw the pictures in the Express of the "car" today .Car "my arse" comes to mind😂😂😂
Title: Re: Testing in MK today
Post by: Varche on 12 October 2016, 18:34:14
I don't see how driver less vehicles could ever work while there are still vehicles being driven by people especially in the twisty narrow country roads, Just imagine a narrow country road almost single track in size on a blind bend what on earth would the driver less car do if there isn't sufficient time to brake or even if there was a place to pull in to let the other car pass does the driver less car have the brains to do what would be classed as second nature / common sense to (most) humans?

One thought i had maybe if every vehicle no matter what it was required by law or something to have some form of communications device / GPS so the vehicles would know where they are etc..

Just another gimmick car manufactures are brewing up.

Only place driver less vehicles could potentially work is on a motorway / duel carriageway type roads.

Overall i think it's a daft idea. Especially in-till its well thought out just mixing driver less vehicles willy-nilly with human controlled vehicles is a disaster waiting to happen.

Well that is easy. The driverless car would be driving at a speed commensurate with the conditions. e.g. 10mph.

For every how will it work type problem you can conjure up there is a solution.

What you should really be worrying about is AI. ( e.g. your driverless car starts to think it is Lewis Hamilton)
Title: Re: Testing in MK today
Post by: STEMO on 13 October 2016, 13:13:36
Driverless cars cannot work on our roads, unless every car is one. We were travelling along a single lane, NSL road the other day, so speed limit 60. Almost everyone was doing 70 because, on a clear dry day, that's how it works. So.....would the driverless car break the speed limit to keep up with traffic, or drive at 60 (acting as unofficial lawmaker) and cause a tailback resulting in possibly unsafe overtakes? If it did travel at 70 (breaking the law) and crashed, would the passenger be able to sue the manufacturer for damages? If the driver can override these decisions manually, then what's the fickin point?
Just one example in a very simple situation. Imagine the permutations on busy town centre streets.
Title: Re: Testing in MK today
Post by: 2boxerdogs on 13 October 2016, 17:02:24
Driverless cars may appeal to some , but for me a definite no I still enjoy driving & the more powerful the car the better ,may not please the green brigade  but personally I really don't care .Plus I would rather put trust in my ability than a computerised machine that looks like an overgrown toy.
Title: Re: Testing in MK today
Post by: STEMO on 14 October 2016, 12:46:56
Electric cars set to get road priority in clean air zones
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-37654584
Title: Re: Testing in MK today
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 14 October 2016, 15:01:05
Electric cars set to get road priority in clean air zones
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-37654584
Good to know that Tesla drivers will get something for the luxury car tax ;D