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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: Doctor Gollum on 22 October 2016, 13:40:52
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Considering a possible estate purchase... criteria are pretty simple and whilst I would consider newer, I would prefer pre '06, so upto '55, to avoid the car tax rip off... Budget is a hypothetical £7k.
Criteria:
1. Petrol ideally.
2. Of reasonable size, so no small family estates.
3. Leather would be nice.
4. Xenons.
5. Nav and Bluetooth.
5. Modest mileage for age, minimal previous owners.
6. 6+ cylinders.
7. Not a VAG product.
8. Needs to be durable.
My shortlist thus far consists of the following...
Volvo V70 T5 manual.
BMW E61 5 series, 530i+.
Vectra VXR.
BMW F11 530d manual plod from auction, (admittedly left field ::))
Any alternatives?
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Omega estate ;)
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Omega estate ;)
Got that T shirt :D
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Mazda 6 :)
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Mazda 6 :)
No larger engines ;)
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Large enough:
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201610208968581?onesearchad=Used&model=MAZDA6&make=MAZDA&sort=sponsored&advertising-location=at_cars&body-type=Estate&radius=100&fuel-type=Petrol&postcode=s728dw&page=1
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Not my cup of tea tbh :-\
Thinking more...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-540i-SPORT-TOURING-AUTO-02-M-sport-bodykit-/142157244180?hash=item21193b6714:g:6ZUAAOSwUEVYC2oO ;)
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How big will the dog be and why does it need a performance car?
Big dogs and nice cars are not a good mix. I would keep the nice car for me, and just have a snotter for carting the dog(and any other large/smelly/dirty stuff) around. If it had been a hatchback your Focus would have been perfect.
This way you get a car you actually want, not one you have compromised on. And having a spare car that you don't care about can be very useful.
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Not that big. And I would like one.
In that order ;)
The dog is more of an excuse tbh, but through loading ability would be nice... it's an option on the E39 saloons, and not that popular, so also justifies an estate.
I'm reasonably content with a 25mpg commute, so a late E39 525 tourer would tick most of the boxes, but more go would be nice... ;)
The two car idea is perfectly fine, but a practical car doesn't have to be a shed... and I don't particularly want to pay twice for everything. I'm biding my time for a weekend toy, (I know what this will be), but would like a nice practical car for everything else.
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My e39 530d tourer is bloody brilliant :y
17years old 172k miles :)
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My e39 530d tourer is bloody brilliant :y
17years old 172k miles :)
Mine too! :y
17 years old. 118k miles.
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My e39 530d tourer is bloody brilliant :y
17years old 172k miles :)
Mine too! :y
17 years old. 118k miles.
Jealous of the mileage
Jobs worth doing - swirl flap removal and replace all vacuum hoses Along with EGR removal
:y
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My e39 530d tourer is bloody brilliant :y
17years old 172k miles :)
Mine too! :y
17 years old. 118k miles.
Jealous of the mileage
Jobs worth doing - swirl flap removal and replace all vacuum hoses Along with EGR removal
:y
My missus had that done last year.
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BMW after 07 are crap, one with engine code start with Nxx chain at rear of engine , they just ask for trouble
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BMW after 07 are crap, one with engine code start with Nxx chain at rear of engine , they just ask for trouble
N62B44 has the chain at the front... :-\ same as M62 as near as can tell..
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My e39 530d tourer is bloody brilliant :y
17years old 172k miles :)
Mine too! :y
17 years old. 118k miles.
Jealous of the mileage
Jobs worth doing - swirl flap removal and replace all vacuum hoses Along with EGR removal
:y
My missus had that done last year.
Did it improve her performance? ???
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My e39 530d tourer is bloody brilliant :y
17years old 172k miles :)
Mine too! :y
17 years old. 118k miles.
Jealous of the mileage
Jobs worth doing - swirl flap removal and replace all vacuum hoses Along with EGR removal
:y
My missus had that done last year.
Did it improve her performance? ???
;D ;D ;D ;D
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BMW after 07 are crap, one with engine code start with Nxx chain at rear of engine , they just ask for trouble
N62B44 has the chain at the front... :-\ same as M62 as near as can tell..
was thinking about diesel engines :y
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BMW after 07 are crap, one with engine code start with Nxx chain at rear of engine , they just ask for trouble
N62B44 has the chain at the front... :-\ same as M62 as near as can tell..
was thinking about diesel engines :y
:y
Does that include the current 530d?
Spotted this... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-530-3-0-530d-SE-Touring-5dr-manual-1-OWNER-EX-POLICE-FSH-/222270896573 mileage is relatively low and price reflects it being a manual...
And figure that direct from auction, it would be well within budget even allowing for fresh interior and tidy up :-\
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Also, seen this... http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201609207946161?radius=15&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&model=5%20SERIES&sort=price-asc&price-from=500&body-type=Estate&make=BMW&advertising-location=at_cars&postcode=rh125ru&page=1
Price needs some work, as it's rather optimistic ;D
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I would ring BMW with car reg you planning to buy and check record of it , 9 times of 10 they will be happy to supply info
or visit local bmw dealer
think n57 are less problematic then N47 but they not as good as older one M57 with 231bhp
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BMW after 07 are crap, one with engine code start with Nxx chain at rear of engine , they just ask for trouble
N62B44 has the chain at the front... :-\ same as M62 as near as can tell..
was thinking about diesel engines :y
:y
Does that include the current 530d?
Spotted this... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-530-3-0-530d-SE-Touring-5dr-manual-1-OWNER-EX-POLICE-FSH-/222270896573 mileage is relatively low and price reflects it being a manual...
And figure that direct from auction, it would be well within budget even allowing for fresh interior and tidy up :-\
From the front it looks like the bonnet`s not closed properly as the shut line is quite big but the shut lines down the wing look ok but still big at the front.
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What kind of performance dog do you have (whippet / greyhound / lurcher ?) and how far do you need to transport it ? :-\
:D
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BMW after 07 are crap, one with engine code start with Nxx chain at rear of engine , they just ask for trouble
N62B44 has the chain at the front... :-\ same as M62 as near as can tell..
was thinking about diesel engines :y
:y
Does that include the current 530d?
Spotted this... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-530-3-0-530d-SE-Touring-5dr-manual-1-OWNER-EX-POLICE-FSH-/222270896573 mileage is relatively low and price reflects it being a manual...
And figure that direct from auction, it would be well within budget even allowing for fresh interior and tidy up :-\
Sorry Dr Gollum, I would not touch an ex-police BMW 5 series of that year '12 onwards with a barge pole!!!!! The amount of grief we've had with em. Of that year we've had numerous DPF problems costing £1800 each time they have to be replaced (eventually BMW told us not to leave them idling when we were at RTC's, as we used to use run-lock and keep the engine running so the battery wouldn't go flat when all the lights were on) apparently this knackeres the DPF , rear suspension bushes are a yearly service item ::) clutches are strong in the manuals BUT once up to the 120.000 mark after the quick starts & stops again & again they start to slip. Latest one of ours '61 plate has just had over £10k of new engine fitted to it, why I don't know as its not worth anything near that.
They ARE an awesome car to drive when they are well, I'll admit that but we've had so many problems with them.
And on a different topic the new 330d's are horrendous!!! 3 of the brand new ones one of which at our nick have engines go BANG at less than 10,000 miles. Been sat in BMW for over 3 months now with technicians scratching their heads as to why ::) ::) ::)
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BMW after 07 are crap, one with engine code start with Nxx chain at rear of engine , they just ask for trouble
N62B44 has the chain at the front... :-\ same as M62 as near as can tell..
was thinking about diesel engines :y
:y
Does that include the current 530d?
Spotted this... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-530-3-0-530d-SE-Touring-5dr-manual-1-OWNER-EX-POLICE-FSH-/222270896573 mileage is relatively low and price reflects it being a manual...
And figure that direct from auction, it would be well within budget even allowing for fresh interior and tidy up :-\
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After what Jasonm reports about them, and other regular pilots.
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Understood Jason :y
Surrey's seem to be a bit better, but parts supply can be an issue... Does give me a degree of diagnostic support though ;)
Brother has a '62 F30 335d and has had no issues whatsoever. His commute is about 75 miles each way though...
Albs, I suspect that one needs the front panel tweaking, but still a couple of grand cheaper than auto ones with another 50+K on them :o
My commute doesn't really warrant a diesel, especially not a DPF equipped one, only 23 miles door to door.
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BMW after 07 are crap, one with engine code start with Nxx chain at rear of engine , they just ask for trouble
N62B44 has the chain at the front... :-\ same as M62 as near as can tell..
was thinking about diesel engines :y
:y
Does that include the current 530d?
Spotted this... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-530-3-0-530d-SE-Touring-5dr-manual-1-OWNER-EX-POLICE-FSH-/222270896573 mileage is relatively low and price reflects it being a manual...
And figure that direct from auction, it would be well within budget even allowing for fresh interior and tidy up :-\
Sorry Dr Gollum, I would not touch an ex-police BMW 5 series of that year '12 onwards with a barge pole!!!!! The amount of grief we've had with em. Of that year we've had numerous DPF problems costing £1800 each time they have to be replaced (eventually BMW told us not to leave them idling when we were at RTC's, as we used to use run-lock and keep the engine running so the battery wouldn't go flat when all the lights were on) apparently this knaeckeres the DPF , rear suspension bushes are a yearly service item ::) clutches are strong in the manuals BUT once up to the 120.000 mark after the quick starts & stops again & again they start to slip. Latest one of ours '61 plate has just had over £10k of new engine fitted to it, why I don't know as its not worth anything near that.
They ARE an awesome car to drive when they are well, I'll admit that but we've had so many problems with them.
And on a different topic the new 330d's are horrendous!!! 3 of the brand new ones one of which at our nick have engines go BANG at less than 10,000 miles. Been sat in BMW for over 3 months now with technicians scratching their heads as to why ::) ::) ::)
Not really sure why BMW are so sensitive... All my vans have been DPF equipped and left idling on run-locks to drive the equipment. Only thing I can think of is that they generally got a good hour plus run before and after idling for about an hour :-\
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so a CLS350
estate shooting brake is out of the question ...... ::)
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so a CLS350 estate shooting brake is out of the question ...... ::)
Well out of budget, and I would prefer to be able to carry four passengers :P
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My e39 530d tourer is bloody brilliant :y
17years old 172k miles :)
Mine too! :y
17 years old. 118k miles.
Jealous of the mileage
Jobs worth doing - swirl flap removal and replace all vacuum hoses Along with EGR removal
:y
My missus had that done last year.
How is the bed, calico and egr valve removal going, this time? ::) ::) ::)
Don't hold back of any full factual follow thoughts in your replies. :o :o :o
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Surrey's seem to be a bit better, but parts supply can be an issue... Does give me a degree of diagnostic support though ;)
Maybe the problem in the GMP cars are the loose nuts behind the wheel? :P :-X ;D
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Not a dissimilar brief to my father's latest car purchase, to replace the C5 rs6 which was a total bag of spanners!
In the end he went with a Saab 9-5 aero - 260bhp, all the toys and could carry 2 lab-sized dogs in comfort. This is 2 cylinders short of your minimum but also half your prospective budget. He also looked at a scooby legacy but loathed the interior. Volvo T5 is nice but the mileages seem to all be akin to a space shuttle.
Manuals also escape the robbing bast@rd £500 tax.
Something like this?
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201610218997913 (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201610218997913)
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Not a dissimilar brief to my father's latest car purchase, to replace the C5 rs6 which was a total bag of spanners!
In the end he went with a Saab 9-5 aero - 260bhp, all the toys and could carry 2 lab-sized dogs in comfort. This is 2 cylinders short of your minimum but also half your prospective budget. He also looked at a scooby legacy but loathed the interior. Volvo T5 is nice but the mileages seem to all be akin to a space shuttle.
Manuals also escape the robbing bast@rd £500 tax.
Something like this?
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201610218997913 (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201610218997913)
I do like Saab. I would go for the 2.8 V6 instead though.
Also, before people are allowed to own a Saab they have to prove they are.....
1. An architect.
2. Wear thin metal rim glasses.
3. Live in Stockholm.
I'm not sure Al fits the criteria. :)
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Not a dissimilar brief to my father's latest car purchase, to replace the C5 rs6 which was a total bag of spanners!
In the end he went with a Saab 9-5 aero - 260bhp, all the toys and could carry 2 lab-sized dogs in comfort. This is 2 cylinders short of your minimum but also half your prospective budget. He also looked at a scooby legacy but loathed the interior. Volvo T5 is nice but the mileages seem to all be akin to a space shuttle.
Manuals also escape the robbing bast@rd £500 tax.
Something like this?
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201610218997913 (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201610218997913)
I do like Saab. I would go for the 2.8 V6 instead though.
Also, before people are allowed to own a Saab they have to prove they are.....
1. An architect.
2. Wear thin metal rim glasses.
3. Live in Stockholm.
I'm not sure Al fits the criteria. :)
Fear not :D it's also wwd ;)
The Vectra VXR has a certain hooligan appeal, but gets ruled out as I would quite like to get to work without changing tyres every week ;D
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There are some very good deals about with Saab's and a 9-5 Estate was high on my list when I was looking for an estate a few months ago. I like them because they're kinda different! :y
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Fear not :D it's also wwd ;)
The Vectra VXR has a certain hooligan appeal, but gets ruled out as I would quite like to get to work without changing tyres every week ;D
Very true. 9-3 turbo X are AWD if that interests you - probably too small though. I've always thought the 2.8v6 elite insignia would be a nice sleeper, remap it and you have a VXR insignia without the stupid bling!
There are some very good deals about with Saab's and a 9-5 Estate was high on my list when I was looking for an estate a few months ago. I like them because they're kinda different! :y
Ive had 2 9-5 saloons, very impressed with both. I reckon they're about 50% of the cost of a like for like 5-series, and at least as much car, IMHO.
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Chrysler 300c,v8 available,no laughing I quite like the shape
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I'll see your daft v8 and raise you the Rover 75 tourer/mg zt-t v8. Rare as hens teeth but meets all your other criteria :P.
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Chrysler 300c,v8 available,no laughing I quite like the shape
Might as well have a badge on the back which reads - "I'm a drug dealer, but not a very successful one". :D
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Chrysler 300c,v8 available,no laughing I quite like the shape
Chap at work has a diesel one... likes it, but it's a bit like the Omega... there's always summat broken on it ::)
If I were going American, then one of theses...
https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/oldsmobile/vista-cruiser/1764305.html
... has a certain appeal 8)
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Chrysler 300c,v8 available,no laughing I quite like the shape
Chap at work has a diesel one... likes it, but it's a bit like the Omega... there's always summat broken on it ::)
If I were going American, then one of theses...
https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/oldsmobile/vista-cruiser/1764305.html
... has a certain appeal 8)
It 'ain't a real station wagon unless it's got sticky-back plastic wood on the side. ;D
The single figure MPG might put me off. :-\
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Chrysler 300c,v8 available,no laughing I quite like the shape
Chap at work has a diesel one... likes it, but it's a bit like the Omega... there's always summat broken on it ::)
If I were going American, then one of theses...
https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/oldsmobile/vista-cruiser/1764305.html
... has a certain appeal 8)
It 'ain't a real station wagon unless it's got sticky-back plastic wood on the side. ;D
The single figure MPG might put me off. :-\
Is the Holden Kingswood the Aussie version of that Olds Vista? ??? :-\
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Chrysler 300c,v8 available,no laughing I quite like the shape
Chap at work has a diesel one... likes it, but it's a bit like the Omega... there's always summat broken on it ::)
If I were going American, then one of theses...
https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/oldsmobile/vista-cruiser/1764305.html
... has a certain appeal 8)
Do it.
Do it. Do it. Do it.
The Omega will suddenly seem like the best handling, fastest car in the universe (I know, it already does to TB).. but that is way cooler.
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Chrysler 300c,v8 available,no laughing I quite like the shape
Chap at work has a diesel one... likes it, but it's a bit like the Omega... there's always summat broken on it ::)
If I were going American, then one of theses...
https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/oldsmobile/vista-cruiser/1764305.html (https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/oldsmobile/vista-cruiser/1764305.html)
... has a certain appeal 8)
It 'ain't a real station wagon unless it's got sticky-back plastic wood on the side. ;D
The single figure MPG might put me off. :-\
A newer, properly setup carb and some mapped ignition should easily bring it into the high teens/low twenties. It is only a 350 after all
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A newer, properly setup carb and some mapped ignition should easily bring it into the high teens/low twenties. It is only a 350 after all
"Only a 350" said like it's a 998 A series. ;D
I suppose, in American terms, it was!
Probably a good candidate for a megasquirt conversion.
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A newer, properly setup carb and some mapped ignition should easily bring it into the high teens/low twenties. It is only a 350 after all
"Only a 350" said like it's a 998 A series. ;D
I suppose, in American terms, it was!
Probably a good candidate for a megasquirt conversion.
How much is 350 cubic inches in old money?
From memory we have about 60 cubic inches to the litre. So just short of six litres.
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How much is 350 cubic inches in old money?
From memory we have about 60 cubic inches to the litre. So just short of six litres.
Yep, a modest 5.7 Litres. ;)
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(I know, it already does to TB)
Oi! My name ain't Imber ;D
My problem is one of compromise, as I need a softish, luxury mile muncher, so it'll never be a sports car.
Obviously, if I had the money.... ...that sounds like a great thread starter...
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(I know, it already does to TB)
Oi! My name ain't Imber ;D
My problem is one of compromise, as I need a softish, luxury mile muncher, so it'll never be a sports car.
Obviously, if I had the money.... ...that sounds like a great thread starter...
Well... You don't have children so :-X ::) :D
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Well... You don't have children so :-X ::) :D
What do we think TB spends his money on? Other than (re)building garages..
/me does some significant ducking ;D
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Well... You don't have children so :-X ::) :D
What do we think TB spends his money on? Other than (re)building garages..
/me does some significant ducking ;D
Curry and beer and tyres.
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Well... You don't have children so :-X ::) :D
What do we think TB spends his money on? Other than (re)building garages..
/me does some significant ducking ;D
Curry and beer and tyres and brake pads and fuel and man flu remedies
Fixed and in no particular order :D