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Title: Strange rear electric window fault
Post by: powerslinky on 29 October 2016, 19:15:57
hi all
          Both fronts & rear n/s windows all work fine  . .

But rear o/s  behaves as follows  . .  :-\       It will open from either the  drivers switch bank or it's own rear one , stops where ever you want it to . .all good so far  :y

but it will not close from either switch until you turn the ignition off, remove key & then re insert the key & switch ignition on.  Once closed window will open  again , but will not close until the switch off/pull key out etc is carried out :-\ :-\

Any ideas where to start looking?  TIA   Al :y
Title: Re: Strange rear electric window fault
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 29 October 2016, 19:24:19
It all starts with the drivers door switch, so begin there :y

You can readily swap the rear door switches to rule them out too, but rear switches are powered from the drivers door regardless...
Title: Re: Strange rear electric window fault
Post by: TheBoy on 29 October 2016, 19:28:59
Are you sure its just that one, as the schems show both sides take same feeds.

The drivers doorswitch may affect the consumer relay
Title: Re: Strange rear electric window fault
Post by: powerslinky on 29 October 2016, 19:30:55
It all starts with the drivers door switch, so begin there :y

You can readily swap the rear door switches to rule them out too, but rear switches are powered from the drivers door regardless...

Asume you mean the actual window switches ?  I have a spare drivers switch bank & a couple of rears as well. Will have a swop about tomorrow if those are what you mean.

thanks ;)
Title: Re: Strange rear electric window fault
Post by: powerslinky on 29 October 2016, 19:32:30
Are you sure its just that one, as the schems show both sides take same feeds.

The drivers doorswitch may affect the consumer relay

Yes Jamie,   only that one  . . all others open & close repeatedly with no problem

Bit strange eh ? :-\ :-\ :-\

Is there a window "Reset" proceedure that can be done ?  :-\
Title: Re: Strange rear electric window fault
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 29 October 2016, 19:33:59
It all starts with the drivers door switch, so begin there :y

You can readily swap the rear door switches to rule them out too, but rear switches are powered from the drivers door regardless...

Asume you mean the actual window switches ?  I have a spare drivers switch bank & a couple of rears as well. Will have a swop about tomorrow if those are what you mean.

thanks ;)
Exactly, but swap the existing rears side to side and see if the fault moves before trying a n other switch... if no change then try the drivers switch and if still no change, it will be out with the multimeter :D
Title: Re: Strange rear electric window fault
Post by: TheBoy on 29 October 2016, 19:35:38
Also pull F1 and F35 for an hour or so, then replace. Then try again.
Title: Re: Strange rear electric window fault
Post by: powerslinky on 29 October 2016, 19:37:22
It all starts with the drivers door switch, so begin there :y

You can readily swap the rear door switches to rule them out too, but rear switches are powered from the drivers door regardless...

Asume you mean the actual window switches ?  I have a spare drivers switch bank & a couple of rears as well. Will have a swop about tomorrow if those are what you mean.

thanks ;)
Exactly, but swap the existing rears side to side and see if the fault moves before trying a n other switch... if no change then try the drivers switch and if still no change, it will be out with the multimeter :D

Oh !  . . ..    :o   Auto leckys not my hot spot :P :P :P
Title: Re: Strange rear electric window fault
Post by: powerslinky on 29 October 2016, 19:39:54
Also pull F1 and F35 for an hour or so, then replace. Then try again.

Ok Jamie  . . . will do switch swop around first though before pulling fuses

thanks  . . :y :y
Title: Re: Strange rear electric window fault
Post by: Nick W on 29 October 2016, 19:41:45
Mine's been the same for about 18months.
As it gets used about 3 times a year, I've ignored it ;D
Title: Re: Strange rear electric window fault
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 29 October 2016, 19:44:24
Lol ;D switches first and report back ;)




But I have a further hunch if all checks out ok...
Title: Re: Strange rear electric window fault
Post by: powerslinky on 29 October 2016, 19:46:59
Mine's been the same for about 18months.
As it gets used about 3 times a year, I've ignored it ;D

Yes Nick . . . . same here really  . . .not gonna be a real  problem as will  very rarely use it

Just wondering what the cause is  . . . & if an easy fix I will . . .if not I won't

but will start with suggestions given so far  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Strange rear electric window fault
Post by: powerslinky on 29 October 2016, 19:48:42
Lol ;D switches first and report back ;)




But I have a further hunch if all checks out ok...

Ok Doc   .  .will do  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Strange rear electric window fault
Post by: Nick W on 29 October 2016, 20:23:25
Lol ;D switches first and report back ;)




I suspect the switches are my problem, as the driver's window(the only one that matters) sometimes needs a long press to go down.
I'm ignoring that too, until it becomes a consistent fault or somebody posts a replacement switch panel through the letter box 8)
Title: Re: Strange rear electric window fault
Post by: powerslinky on 30 October 2016, 09:10:49
Ok  update . First swopped over both rear switches.. . same outcome o/s rear window will not close until ignition turned off /key removed/key returned & ignition turned back on.

Also changed drivers door switch bank for another . .. same result .

Put all original switches back in . . .still the same result.

BUT . . .  noticed that the o/s rear puddle light was not lighting when door was opened :o

So removed pin switch & spryed inside with switch cleaner  . . puddle light now comes on every time  . . .&   rear window is now operating as it should . . all be it a bit slow as it has probably not been used for quite some time .

Also  . . although the central locking worked from the fob when I got this car recently  . . . the dead locking did not. . .  now it works :o :o

Was the sticking puddle light pin the problem with the window & the dead locking, or have I just moved or touched something that has made these issues work again?  :-\ :-\
It seems fixed so thanks guys for your input :y :y

I will however start another thread on the subject of the central locking not re-setting when you put key in turn to position II & push lock . .  .as this another fault I need to look at
Title: Re: Strange rear electric window fault
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 30 October 2016, 15:35:05
Silicon spray on the rubbers :y